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Show !l GZARISM NOT ONE Of f . ROOSEVELT'S Y TRAITS. .Senator Spooner of Wiscon- sin Challenges Gorman Gor-man to Proof. , Politics Crop Out In Debate In p Upper Branch of I Congress. Is "Hoosovelt Slust Ba H Beaten." HI i W- 1 ASHINGTON, April 9. "What we say here goes Into the- permanent per-manent record," snld Mr. MM Spooner. "If we cast reflections HL'i upon any person or official of the Gov- Hj; crnmont, they are there for all time. Hu We are supposed to speak from a high HI standard." Thus began a llyely debate HI; In the Senate today on the postofflce I' b1"' Continuing, Mr. Spooner read from the President's report on the lnvestl- nation to show that there had been no 1 hesitancy on the part of the officials of the Postofflce department to under- take tho Investigation, and declared Hj that there had been nothing In the rec- Hj ord of the department to Impeach tho fidelity of tho Po3tmaster-General. Ho HH said that jNIr. Payne had not. been a 9 candidate for the position, nor had it H been sought for him, although It Tvaa the life ambition of Sir. Payne to be- come Po3tmaster-General. Mr Spooner paid tribute to Mr. P Payne, who, he said, had been unjustly maligned more than any other official BE in a number of years. He referred to BH the record of Charles Emery Smith, and BJjj commended his service to the Govorn- Hfl ment as one of sclf-sacrlflce. Mr. Bfl Spooner said that the Comptroller of BJ the Treasury. Mr. Tracewell, has been BH subjected to adverse criticism, and that Bfl official ho believed to be an upright, Bfl honest and incorruptible official and an BJI able lawyer. Letter From. Roosevelt. Bfl Mr. Spooner put into the record a letter from the President to Mr. Payne BJI commending him for the work he had Bfl done in connection with the postofflce investigation. Aff Speaking of the charge of corruption. By Mr. Spooner advanced the idea that Bft there was much less of It now than Jn Bflk former years. He did not belldve, for BJI instance, that a Credit Mobiler scandal BM v would be possible In the Congress of Brj today. He defended the Senate for Its f im failure to adopt the Penrose resolu-(A resolu-(A dj, tlon, and announced his conviction that ''m - ' the demand for an inquiry was not un-I un-I colored by political interest. "There have been no charges except f those made by Mr. T3rlstow," said the speakc-r, "and Mr. Brlstow has made no charges that had not been lnvestl-J lnvestl-J gated." He said that it would have been Impossible Im-possible to make an Investigation In the tlmo fixed by the resolution, and suggested that May 1st was fixed by the Carmack resolution with a view to Its effect on tho Presidential campaign. He contended that an investigation, to be effective, must be without a time limit, Mr. Spooner said it would have been j impossible for tho Senate to make as complete an Investigation as Mr. Brlstow Brls-tow had made under the President's direction. "And I think." he fald, "that, whatever our friends on the other tide of the chamber may find to say of the President the great mas8 of the people will agree with me that from the beginning he has shown that he will not tolerate wrong-doing." He charged the Democrats in both houses of Congress with having adopted as a party slogan the declaration that ! "Hoosevelt must be beaten." "Why? Because they say he is n law unto himself, a czar unsaf?, unsound un-sound a law-maker, a law-breaker, and the like; while the candidate on the other side Is safe and sound, calm and judicial. Do you have to have some one to testify that he is a Democrat? Demo-crat? He has it now from Mr. Cle-c-land, whose Democracy Itself Is un-(mcstloned." un-(mcstloned." What evidence, Mr. Spooner asked, had Mr. Gorman that the President la a czar? He would hato to believe that Mr. Gorman meant to charge that tho Ke-publlcan Ke-publlcan Senntors had abdicated their functions as Senators, but he had shown that disposition by charging that they arc blindly obeying some outside behe.vt to adjourn Congress at an early date. As for himself he would admit that ho desired to adjourn. He wanted to get away, not only because he believed the work of the session had been practically completed, but because be-cause he thought the Democratic members ought to be allowed to get away and consult the people, with the end In view of having "the two wings of the. Democratic party flap together, eo that they can Mlect as a candidate some safe, calm, silent, Judicious man who cannot be held up In North Carolina Caro-lina a3 a trust buster and in Wall street as a man entirely devoted to tho business Interests," iRailrond King Held. Speaking of Mr. Gorman's reference to Mr. J. J. Hill and the bill for the amendment of the Inter-State Commerce Com-merce law, Mr. Spooner said he agreed with Mr. Gorman that Hill's was the "greatest transportation mind In the country." He expressed the opinion that Mr. Gorman's position In that connection waa "intended to touch the pocket-books of Mr. Hill's coterie of financiers when tho necessities arise, as they will, but I venture the prediction predic-tion that Mr. Hill and his associates will not preis with tumultuous haste to-the support of the Senator until assured as-sured that he had a solid Democracy behind him in support of that meas-Mr. meas-Mr. Spooner defended the President , against Mr- Gorman's charge of vlolat- lng the Inter-State Commerce law and also against the charge of a violation f of law In connection with the old age pension order. Referring to tho pension pen-sion matter he said that "bo far from violating tho law It had ameliorated a Bfl ..violation of tho law in 1893 when thero flB t' a Democratic President," He would HiflflK not admit In response to a question from Overman that the pending campaign cam-paign had influenced the old age order. or-der. He oald that it was not Intended that the strict rules of the law courts should be applied In granting pensions and he argued that the Secretary of the Interior and the Comminsloner of Pensions were to be the Judges as to what shall constltuto "due proof" under un-der the law. He defended the President against the charge of violating the lav.', saying say-ing that "whatever else the President of the United States has demonstrated he has shown unfaltering devotion to the, law. It has always been his doctrine doc-trine that the Executive should enforce en-force the law and that if the law Is not right It should be repealed." He wondered, he said, that Mr. Gorman hod not attacked the President's record rec-ord In connection with the anthracite coal strike of 1002, He dwelt on the beneficial result of his Interference and added: "I suppose your calm, neutral, judl-clal-mlnded President would have taken tak-en refuge behind the constitution and would have done nothing. Not so, thank God. with Theodore Roosevelt. But for the President's action every city in the country would have been the scene of violence and rioting." The prosecution of the Northern Securities Se-curities case aLso was referred to because, be-cause, said Mr. Spooner, tho President had registered an oath In Heaven to enforce the law, notwithstanding ho might make enemies In doing so. |