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Show ADMITS RATES ON COIL MOUSED Witness for Railways Says Utah Producers Should Be Allowed to Compete. In cross-examination before the state public utilities commission yesterday afternoon, In the hearing on application of Utah railroads for a raise of 15 cents aton in coal freight rates, D. II. Pape of Rock Springs, Wyo., representing the Lion Coal company and a witness for the railways, admitted that coal rates on the Oregon Short Line to points north of Og-den Og-den had been reduced to the Wyoming producers in order that they might compete com-pete with the Utah product. H. W. Prieliett, representing tho Protestants Pro-testants against allowance of the freight increase, asked Mr. Pape if he ..new of anv reason why a similar reduction should not be allowed to Utah coal producers pro-ducers in order that they also might compete in thai territory, and the. witness wit-ness confessed he could see none. A. C. Rees. secretary of the Manufacturers' Manufac-turers' Association of Utah, testified con-cernine: con-cernine: the number of factories, the number of employees, the amount of investment, in-vestment, the kind of products and the pavrolls of manufacturing Institutions in L'tah. He said that the nation is calling for increased production from factories, hut that higher cost of raw materials, such as coal, did not tend to encourage this Increase asked. He. thought a lower rate on coal would tand to increase the I factory output. I Miles L. Jones, city commissioner of I Ogtlen, and S. S. Jensen, manager of the Ogde'.i Packing and Provision company, testlried at the morning session. Oommii.skmer Jones said the present freight rates had retarded the development develop-ment of Ogden, comparing the growth of San Francisco, Cal., and Seattle. Wash., with that of the Utah city. He said San Francisco was established in 1S49, the year of Ogden's birth, and that Seattle was not even thought of at that time, vet both had far outstripped Ogden in development because they were more favored fa-vored in the matter of freight rates on railroads. Manager Jensen of the packing company com-pany said that his concern used from tJ0t!i to SuOd tons of coal a year, mostly slack from Utah mines, on which a freight rate of $l.Co was paid. lie declared de-clared that the high freight rate on coal was one of the factors holding back the. development of the industries in this state. The witness said that a prominent promi-nent investor had informed him that coal freight rates must be reduced before he would put any more money into Ogden j factories. . Ogden packers, Mr. Jensen said, were ! obliged to compete with those of Los i Angeles, Kansas City, Omaha. Chicago j and other centers, and in order to be I able to do this successfully It was noces-I noces-I sary that coal freight rates be reduced, i |