WHAT CONGRESS SHOULD DO. Gov. Taft Talks to Committee as to Torm of Government for tho Islands Washington IV li 17 Gov Tall. In his testimony before the Penite Committee Com-mittee on thp Philippines tiidaj, stited morp surclntlj than he has heretofoie done his theorj which he slid Is also the thiorj of the Philippine ccimmls slon as to what Coui,rpH should do In thp way of supjl)lng the Philippine Philip-pine people with n foim of gov ei 111111 nt Ills plan Is first to give the people a quillflul surtiagp with 11 gradual growth In popular governmpnt, whlili should bo enlarged thrniikh education In the Pnglish language and In American Ameri-can Institutions, second, to Institute within n redsoiiubl sheut time a local Ipglslituie tu consist of two bodies one to be olnnen b) votp and the other to be appointive third to permit the Islands tn send two or thieu lepicsent allies to Washington AGUIIKH WITH riJNSTON In ipply to questions Gov. laft said he agiced with (Sen Punstoii thnt the establlshmput of a popular iissenihliigu would give opportunity to demagogues to stli up the people, but that he did not Include In this designation nil persons per-sons who nm opposed to American control. There are, he said, man) men In Ihe Islands who conscientiously oppose op-pose tho domination of the United Ktates To giant Indi pende nee would, he thought, hive the effect of consigning consign-ing the 00 pel epnt of uneducated people peo-ple In the Islands In the sime sprvlle position the) held under Spanish rule TO HOLD IHLANDH. He thought them should bo a declaration decla-ration on thp part nf the United Stntps of Its Intention to hold the Islands In definitely, with the understanding thnt when they nre suitable Mr such a condition con-dition they may bn given a qussl-lnde-pendencp Such a pronouncement by this country would be welcomed by many und would do much good Many of the common people do not, he said, know the difference between Independence Independ-ence and dependence, and many of the bettei Informed hnve not followed tho agitation fnr Independence to Its last anal) sis Home of the agitators seem, he said, to count on a protectorate by the United Rtntes If the governmpnt nf the Islands should now be turned over to the Islandeis themselves there would be nothing less than oligarchy, trey having nn Idea of civil govirn-ment govirn-ment ItEPMES TO SENATOrt IIAWI.INS. llepl)lng to Penator llnwllns. Gov Tuft advanced the Idea that on account of the fact that the Filipinos have for 300 j ears been undrr the Influence of tho Chrlitlan religion they would prove to be different from other Mnlav races, and that In time, under the Influence of Ameilcan education, the people might become capable of self-government Ho did not consider the case ns parallel with thnt presented In India He thought all the difficulties of ruco und climate might be overcome, but held that It would take time and require much patience In the matter of training on our part. He anticipated some trouble trou-ble on account of undue or Illegal exploitation ex-ploitation of the Islands nnd corruption In case of continued American occupation occupa-tion but he would not on nccount of this danger turn the Islands hack to the fate of an oligarchy so long as there Is a piobahillty of success, as there Is In this ense MUBT CAItHY OUT PLAN. ' I did not originally favor the acquisition acquisi-tion of the Philippines and I was sorrj at the time that wo got them, but now thnt we are there, I see no other way than to go on and curry out the plan that I have suggested I muy be a Murk Tapley in this matter,' he continued, con-tinued, ' but If I did not believe that we will bring these reople out regardless of the fat that tho feat we piopose Is to an extent unprecedented If I did not helleve we should sBccppfl In doing whit we nre undertaking to do, I should resign re-sign Immediately and como home." I roceedlng, ho said that his idea was to unite examples and actual practice In the American contiol of the Islands, and he believed that the result must be the uplifting and the education of the people lo a point which would put them on a plane fur above that which Is at X resent occupied Adjourned for the da).