Show HAD CAUSTIC DEBATE i Sharp political I Twist Givei Discussion in Senate 11 ARMOR PLATE THE TEXT 1 S Exchanges Bordered Times the E At Bee on rersonalitiesHr CoiitrOVerSY Hanna involved In n i Contcvers1 lvobrcd 1 CU3C ce and the Allen and vilh Tinman Alen wl1 Jrct Intense Inter the to S Flew Sparks Allen tof the AuditorsTeller Alen I Han andPetligrew All Replied to and if FetUgew Passed HI1ntc Pension Bills pnSCdJ i lon June lThe Senatorial Washington and as wdrn I debate today was caustic uld At tIm weather outdoors fi as the eaher S Senators boi I hc exchanges between Much of the ii drcd pn personalities political lJuch nature session was of a pOlt lujjj 1 lscusslol tl queptICflS thC1SCtVCS CleJllcns J tIiQugJI in S2Su PolltlcaK SW ere not essentially poltcal II convened a Soon after the senate cor1cned allr presented from the people was memorial Go the California asking that tL pie of Colforla asldnC relief for the I eminent provide some people of India starving ot f tltlng GIVES HALF A TEXT with this as a Mr Hale of arraigned Maine Great Britain tQxt ccreh oC millions of hundreds miions J lor expending hundrds und freedom 101 cxpcndlns 1Ujert fredom l dolnrs in crushinG Iblrlr oC calln for In j f uth AfrIca people oC Eng I the helpless and dIng I lands c1iitf colon Jauls oC Rhode Island charged Ni Aldrich o political 1 Halo with making pollcal Mr wih and a matters 1 Irrelevant maLers hcs on Irelevant 1 speeches little later when Mr Hale reported a furtW disagreement on the naval ap proprlZttIOfl further dlsngre bill an xtltluJ discussion arose over the armor plate question SHARP political POLITICAL twist was TWIST given to I A sharp debate p01lcal speech which Mr I the delivered In favor of of Ohio tuor Ifnnna e leaving the whole matter In the I hands I conferees and of confer Senate on of the upon the sec discretionary power ring dlcrctonal with In accordance rotary fit the Navy ocCordunce He became involved Ilouse proposition the e with Mr Till volved In a controversy lfr Ti 1 of South Carolina and Mr Allen man Cnrolnn of Nebraska over the Governments abllty to manufacture armor satisfactorily I satisfac-torily t which the sparks flew to the Intense Interest of the auditors I 1NT A POLITICAL VEIN I Mr Allen and of Colorado I Mr Teller jIr Alen Mr Pettlgrew of South Dakota replied Pculf In a political to Mr Hanna all speaking pol The bill finally was returned vein tlcleil 1hc bi fnalY Wf to conferenceS conference-S private pension bills the military ac and also were passed mitry ndcmy appropriation bill The military academy curried amendments making Gen Miles and all future commanders of the army LleutenantGenerals and Corbin a MujorGencral Consideration of the last of the appropriation I ap-propriation rton bis the general deficiency I proprlaton I was begun but was not completed IMPOSSIBLE TO GET PRESSES Mr Hanna then proceeded to point 1lr that It would be Impossible to get the necessary presses for the armor plate factory under two years as they had to be made on special order and he declared that It now was Impossible to make a contract for an engine of 3000 horse power to be delivered under a year and n half How does It happen inquired Mr Tillmixn that several steel mills have recently been shut down If J that bo true trueWHO CLOSED STEEL PLANTS The same man who said he could manufacture steel armor plate at 260 fure monua per ton retorted Mr Hanna closed down the steel mills to influence the stock market That Is the way with men when they become millionaires through the medium of the trusts returned Mr Tlllman caustically They all become liars and thieves Well replied Mr Hanna calmly I hope the Senator does not mean quite that thatOh 1 Oh said Mr Tltlman I mean the remark only as a general proposition INTERRUPTED BY ALLEN I Mr Hanna was then proceeding with I his discussion of the manufacture of armor plate carrying his description from the ore mines to the complete < ship when he was Interrupted by Mr Allen Is the Senator Interested In the manufacture of armor plate I am not emphatically replied Mr Banna Has the Senator ever manufactured armor plate pursued Mr Allen No MADE POLITICAL ARMOR PLATE None but political armor plate BUggcslcd Mr Allen sarcastically None but political armor plate retorted re-torted Mr Hanna turning squarely to Mr Allen and I have found that pretty Invulnenvhle I NOT PERSONAL MATTER In concluding Mr Hanna protested against the making pC the armor plate question a personal matter I protest mid he against the statement of the men who say that they would rather ECO this bill fail than that It should passcontaining a provision to pay a reasonable price for armor Mr Elkins W Va contended that the proper way to dispose of the matter was to leave it to the secretary but It I might bo well to fxn limit to price I ALLENS OPINION Mr Allen said this discussion had brought out the facts that the friends of the trusts were in the saddle No previous discussion had been sufficient to bring Mr Ifanaa or Mr Elklns to The front But the moment w attack at-tack one of these trusts that arc pre riK to rob the country ot millions of dollars he said they appear hero as advocates of this great octopus and undertake to persuade the Senate that the Government should not manu facture armor plate but that It should stand up and allow itself to bVrWod NOT AGAINST A NAVY Mr Teller said that long before the I Senator from Ohio had Lalen any part In publiciifo he had been Inpublc lfe advocating and otlng fir th iflCease of ocatng navy f Now he said we ar guilty cf troa son if we dont fall Into the ideas of the administration Oi ImperlalsJ and it I we are not wIlling to allow the Govern men to bo robbed w are charged with chare being against the navy TELLER MAKES A CHARGE Continuing lIr Teller sail that he had this no intended to bring Wllcs into I COntroverSy hut that when the chief representative of the Republican part ag he regarded Mr Hanna came Hanna l1ero as the champion ot the combita tons 11e felt that he was comblra juStfed saying that the RCiUbllcans Re1Ublcans expect to repeat this ycr the tacUcs ot which Consisted ot te tactcs wscssments 1896 I upon every manufacturing In the ccrmanuctUrng insttuton I dny tim statement Mr Hanna Interjected SATS BANKS WERE ASSESSED I excted the denia SESSFD I Mr Teller denin responded 1 Teler Teehnicay tho Thnlcay ciIge j may not bo true but chage I stntaly It If I Is notorlo sub I I that the national notoroU that tht banl nntonal wee ban3 all p as esed Even the banico 01 a I I were notified that baltf ot Colorado < noUfcc they w were to make wer expcte 4 of tho contributions for the C1eCtio i 01 Republican tlele clecton DEMOCRATIC RADO BOODLE IN COLO i ranno Fist NiUoa1P 5 recipient of all the of Denver wns the Democratic cam contrition contrilUtlOns of the Domocratc VJ contrlbuton nt vas the palgn fund und Its president 0 solloltorpontnxl for thorn sololtolgnlrl is true the that TllCtIt Mr Teller consequential Inconsequental amount raised was lmount 5200000 JlannaOver 2o00Q Mr HnnnlOer TellerOh I know of every Mr TelerOh that bank for dollar that went through thlt the campaign So camlllsn do I responded 11 IIanna Ie Teller the Sen Mr ator Thin knows replied that the amount was not 200000 not 100000 either in Teller said that Mr tha view Continuing of the fact r that the policy of 1890 I was to be repeated In I O It was not the interest oc difficult to account for I difcult makers armorplate the friends of the armor In the Senate WHAT HE SUPPOSED lie did not suppose that the dlsposl had then oC the armorplate question anything to do with Mr Carnegie unthlnS McKinlcy but he declaration for Mr llcKlnlc the class of men for did know that whom leow ho stands seemed feel that It that he should be reelected essential was wnsesentnl elected was a mistake if they j pursuefair methods He con I I meant to pursue eluded with purue the assertion that the j methods of the friends of the Adminis 1 mnhodB tratlon would not bear Investigation for nn hour I INDIAS STARVING PEOPLE Ill I Jlr Perking presented a petition from I organizations ll Plrleln9 and individuals of his j State California asking Congress to Calforia for the relief of make an appropriation relcf I the famishing people of India and ho asked that it be referred to the Coin J j mittce on Appropriations lie vvns lOt t I he said In possession of suflleient information < in-formation to enable him to prepare a proper resolution dealing with the I I nuesllon In 1S57 he had asked for and J procured nlglon ships to carry to India provisions pro-visions given by the citizens of California Cali-fornia Oregon Washington Nebraska Kansas and Iowa The provisions aggregated Klnsas ag-gregated 1000 tons No ofilclal acknowledgment acknowl-edgment had ever been received of that donation so far as he was aware WHY HE HESITATED He hesitated now therefore lo press a resolution looking to the relief of the people oC India lest the Government of Great Britain might not look with favor upon the action of Congress In sending send-ing to India unsolicited alms as it might not look with favor on a friendly I I Intervention by this Government In the South African war I HALE TAKES A HAND The world has been horrified almost stupelled Interjected Mr Hal apeaklng with deliberate emphasis at the fluttering now being endured In India In-dia That Is the chief of Englands colonies The pestilence and famine are appalling to the Imagination Whole families are being wiped out of exIstence exist-ence the babe lies dead beside its mother The situation Is awful Now the Senator comes here with a proposition proposi-tion that we should appropriate money for the relief of these people WHAT HAS ENGLAND DONE I should lee to ask the Senator what England has done for the people of India She has spent lens and hundreds hun-dreds of millions of dollars in striking dpwn and crushing republics I Is the most brutal manifestation of strength against liberty and weakness the world has ever seen and I am moved there fore to ask the Senator what Great Britain has done to relieve the suffering suffer-ing of her Indian subjects What has he In the way of Information upon this point What Information has he as to Englands action in this matter while she Is spending hundreds of millions lions in destroying tho Boer republics ALDRICHS CAUSTIC REMARKS Mr Aldrich interjected some caustic remarks about making proBoer and political speeches every time a petition was presented and then Mr Perkins replying to Mr Hale said he fully realIze real-Ize the force of Mr Hales question I am not asking the Senate to take action at this time 1 ask that the memorial me-morial be referred to the Committee on Appropriations in order that the members mem-bers of the committee may carefully consider the subject It was so referred re-ferred CONGRESS IN DEADLOCK For the conferees on the naval appropriation ap-propriation Mr Hale reDorted another disagreement upon the subject of armor plates surveys and course of studies at the Naval academy He said there was an absolute deadlock between the conferees con-ferees of the two houses and he expressed ex-pressed n desire that Senators state their views freely In order that the Senate conferees might have the benefit bene-fit of their opinions and suggestions Mr Tlllman one of the conferees declared de-clared he would rather the bill should fail than that the Senate should yield to the Ilouse proposition HANNA MAKES A SPEECH Mr Hanna a member of the Committee Commit-tee on Naval Affairs said that since his advent Into the Senate he had devoted de-voted considerable time to a study of the armorplate question Ho was familiar fa-miliar with manufacturing and had some knowledge of the armor matter from personal Investigation He malell I favor of the construction of a formidable formida-ble navy as rapidly I as possible and he was satisfied the delay Ip the navys building now was due to n great degree de-gree to the opposition of the Senators from South Carolina Tlllman and New Hampshire Chandler to the payment pay-ment of a reasonable price for armor WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE The responsibility for this delay I said he rests upon those two Senators I for putting n price on armor below that at which it would be manufactured ban b-an concern in the country and the Senator from South Carolina has given you the animus of his opposition when he said Vf would oOSllon < see the ism tall l than to c any concessions made to the armor companies LOW PRICE FOR ARMOR On his responsibility ns a Senator he was satisfied to nay that 445 pel ton wan not only a reasonable but a I low price for armor I Did not tho Illinois Steel company inquired Mr Wellington offer to male the Governments armor > ofer 2GO ICr ton 7 7VAS WAS A PURE BLUFF Yes It did replied Mr Hanna i know Something about that transaction transclon I was a pure bluff The company baLI no Ic 3 that its offer would be taken semi ou sly In addition to that Interjected Mr Penrose the company stipulate that It should have a con stpulale < tons lOls annually That Is true said Mr Hnnna But It did not Want the Lrice contct at any WHAT HE URGED Further along Mr Hanna argued that alsuer lhft il would be the lhe part oC rilp to place the matter within the discretion or lhe Secretary oC the Navy who wau very where legnrded ns In Uprigl hl and lion orable man Mr Hanna argued I Hnnni thai It wouhl be impossible to construct an armorplate plant under five yea that I could supply the Government with faulu able armor and then it would cost perl haps BO per cent more than It could ii f Procured for from a private concern TILT JM AN ASKS QUESTION Has the Senator ever read Mr Car negics testimony Inquired Mr necIDs testmony Tlli 1 TJ man In which he saW that he could begin thc mamrClclurc or Piate IthlS I nine months I Oh yen replied Mr Hanna and It may bo said In that ConnettiOth thhot ccnneclrm 1Ir Carnegie had everytlmiiig 1n read ness for the manufacture oC the pate at that time SOMEWHAT PERSONAL Well retorted Mr Tlllman whon tne Senator Is so reckleas In his state ments I think it is just OH well to coll his attention to some facts Wel d11 It I were ao reckleaslni my state meats aa Is thc Senator from South Carolina said Mr Hanna wirrnl 1 should feel badly about It PETTIGREW IS BITTER L Mr PGltifirjvvYj asserted that the two manufactories Thf the Jfnto armor platonunufaetores tho boon built up on had buit country received from the Government profits that they rclh wero c in collusion and that thlY they had sold armor plate to the Russian Rus-sian Government for S 250 per ton He said Goerment that If price to Russia had I been increased as Mr Hanna declared I ben to li15 I1Creag per ton It was only because armor plate there was an International arror combine He said he was not surprised I sur-prised to find the manufacturers who I collected the funds for the Republican Colectc party 1S9G standing up in the Senate nnd plrU defending this combination for i plundering the treasury of thc United Stales r HALES MOTION ADOPTED A yea and nay vole was laken on Mr Halos motion further to Insist 11 moLon upon the Senate amendments to disagree J dis-agree to the proposed amendment to I agre that tho House as to armor plale and the Senate agree to a further conference confer-ence The motion was agreed to unanimously I sixtythroe votes being I cast Messrs Hale Perkins and Tlllman were appointed as conferees Seventynine pension his were thon passed CUBAN EXTRADITION BILL On motion of Mr Fairbanks it was agreed lo consider the Cuban extradition l I extradi-tion bill Immediately after tile general lon bi afer that j deliclency bill Mr Hoar declaring it would bil a national scandal IC action I I n to tion wero no had on tho bill prior adj u rn men tAn t-An agreement was reached that the I deficiency agrcmcn should be read tonight uncontested amendmenls lo be passed I upon but contested amendments to go The bill was over unlll tomorrow bi ti read all commlttoo amendments adopted and commltoo in the Senate adjouincd |