Show HUSBAND AND COFFEE Would Be Foolish t Stay With It I must tell you about my husband and his experience with coffee He had been nervous and more or less Irritable Ir-ritable suffering with nausea and waterbrash from time to time and sleeplessness with a considerable amount of indigestion I finally induced him to leave off the cffee for while his ailments were different somewhat than mine I was convinced that it was the poisoning of the nervous system that caused his troubles as well as my own We have now been using Postum over a year and are in the very best of health stout and hearty every way You may be sure we have learned to make Postum so it tastes fine for we believe in good things We made Postum rather sloppy at first I cannot describe what a blessing we have both derived from the use of Pos tum I have written these facts In the lope that some others may be benefited ay the statement and leave off the coffee cof-fee that la the real cause of so much physical suffering A friend of ours Mrs Emma Dahlgren had dreadful stomach trouble for years bloating after meals great nervousness and serious se-rious constipation The physicians could not dp her any good but immediately immedi-ately after she left off coffee and began be-gan using Postum she got over her nervousness constipation and other sufferings and now enjoys fine health She Is not like the same person cheerful cheer-ful at all times now while formerly she was very despondent and ill Mrs Lena Noble Fairfield la Didnt you calUout and say that to him Yes sir What did he answer I couldnt ten you he made thisexcuse that he was being watched Didnt you try to disabuse his mind of that No sir THOUGHT NOTHING IMPROPER That there was nothing Improper atl all I think in the first start I dont know as I tried to disabuse his mind about coming over I asked him to come over and he made this remark s What did he tell you over the telephone tele-phone about probably wanting to vote for you that day He said that according ac-cording to the talk with my men that he might vote for me that day According to the talk he had with your men Yes sir And that he was ready to do intel ness with you No sir Didnt he say that No sir he did not That he was now in a position that he could do business with you No sirAnd And didnt you make a reply to that For Gods sake dont say anything more over the phone I did not You did not No sir But you did make the other remark cautioned him against speaking over he public phone didnt you I have answered that question now I think about eight or ten times for you that I did You did Yes When you arrived there what did you see first Arrived whereAt where-At the drug store I saw Mr Morn and it seemed to me somebody else ss he drug store but I couldnt be post ive on that and Mr Law Before taking you down to the drug tore I will ask you what you did after you telephoned turned around here and talked to Thatcher and Ev las Yes What did Thatcher tell you to do I ont know particularly what he did say except that he said he had voted for a Democrat yesterday and there vas no reason why he shouldnt vote for another today You were then talkIng about getting IK Laws vote No sir I had just Imply told him that Mr Law had telephoned me That he might vote for you on that day Yes Now you could have replied to him all right go ahead and vote if you want to Yes I could have done but Mr Law had been sort of working around gradually friendly and I supposed sup-posed he wanted to see me personally as nearly every legislator that is voting for me has had a private Interview with me Yes they come to you gradually Yes some of Ihem I have had dozens and dozens of private interviews And did John Evans discuss the question with you am to whether you would be elected on the first second or third ballots Yes sir And didnt he tell you to advice Mr Law that If you were not elected on the first or second or third ballots along there sometime to cast his vote for you He said something of that kind he said It would be better for me to be elected with Democratic votes You say some little doubt was lurking lurk-ing In your mind as to whether you would be elected on that day Doubts be hanged I have told you that just what I felt of course there is always doubt there is always a chance of a slip twist the cup and the lip what ia the use of reiterating all that rot WAS ABSOLUTELY CONFIDENT There was some little doubt then In your mind None at all I felt confU dent of being elected Not the least doubt In the world Oh yes probably just a little bit or a faint doubt if you want it that way have the doubt there Did you put on your hat and coat Yes sir Overcoat Yes sir Sdo pockets In it Yes sir Have some stuff in all of them did you I possibly did Did you have your cane along with you Yes sir In which hand did you carry it I carried It most all the time in my right hand Most oC the time Yes sir Some of the time in your left Very rarely Very rarely Yes sir Whom did you see before entering into the drug store I saw a great many people on the street Pay any attention to any of them in particular Not particularly Just before entering the drug store I mean I didnt pay any particular attention at-tention to anybody before I entered the drug store Where did you meet Mr Law In the drug store What wag the first word you said to him I think It was good morning Good morning Yes sir Shake hands with him Yes sir Did you notice then whether he had two fingers gone No sir Anything peculiar about the handshake hand-shake No sir You had shaken hands with him a good many times hadnt you Yes sir And he suggested to you or you asked him what ho wanted didnt you first Yes sir I asked him what he wanted to me me about What did he say He said he wanted to see me alone and I suggested something some-thing about sitting down there and that was the way that came about At first he proposed to take me to his room and I told him no that I didnt have much time that I was very busy at headquarters and he said he wanted to see me alone or something or that kind and I think I suggested to go to Hogles saloon 1C I remember right What made you think of that Ho gles saloon because there Is a private room there at the back if he wanted tc Continued on pago 50 b4 CONVICING STORY Continued from Page 3 see me alone so particularly I didnt s prtcularly know the nature of his call Didnt he say he didnt want to go into a wine room or saloon Not that I know of he said something about not wanting to bo In a public place I then suggested sitting down on the settee Didnt he say to you that he had a private room Yes he did say something some-thing about a room The place where he had slept last night Yes sir And asked you to go up there Ye Why didnt you 6 up Because I dldnt have time I he had suggested that his room was as close a I wa very likely you fellows would have caught me just as you intended to SAVAGE AT EVANS I guess that is right you think you would have actually been caught I think I would have actually been caught and I think if It was necessary neces-sary my life Would havo been sworn away that Is my nrm conviction taking tak-ing the whole plot as It has been shown up since that time We will see about that no such bluffs a that can go I a not making any bluff You are simply doing that to counteract coun-teract the statement No sir Didiit he tell you he had I room right across the street No sir Didnt you say I wont go in i No sir ho said the Jennings block and I had the impression that it was down at the corner over tho Deseret bank Didnt he say to you the Jenkins block N sir he said the Jennings block Didnt you say No I wont go to that room but I will go Into some saloon loon or wine room and talk with you there No sir I did not say that there were very few words spoken I have given it to you as nearly a I could before we sat down there Then beGre invited him to sit down that there was a private place there Yes sir sirWho Was there anybody In the store Yes I Who Mr Horn You saw him and knew him did you Yes sir knew him well Was he an enemy of yours I think I made the remark How does that fellow como here I says that he wasnt much of a friend of mine he had been against mo in a case here and had given pretty hard testimony I thought You said that to Mr Law did you I doat know whether I gavehim that I say I simply said that I didnt think he was a very good friend of mine How did that fellow come here you said did you I dont know what it was I alluded to him In some way He had his hat off and was behind the counter Yes sir I could see cx acty what he was doing Wef did you think there was anything strange about him being there No sir In a place the man was accustomed to working No sir I thought It strdne AVny did you make that remark I I mae thought it strange to seo him in the drugstore drug-store because r have known him 8 long I and all didnt know he was a druggist at allWhy did you make that remark that I he wasnt very friendly to you that he hid a rah < 5 against you Just happened to > tn him a I sat down and made that I remark Vhj did you want to communicate that to Mr Law Just idle talk as I sat j I down as I happened to catch sislit of I this fellow I There was some suggestion then I simply wanted Th That you made to Mr Law that this man wasnt very friendly to you Not in that no WAS SURPRISED TO SEE HORN You made some suggestion that ho wasnt very friendly yes sir It simply surortsed me to tee the man there bee be-e use I didnt know what he was doing had last seen himthe last 1 saw of him he works I biKLi hS running sampling never knew he was a druggist You sat down there and talked together dd you Yes sir How iong did you remain there I shouid jcdseit was a very tow minutes Tin minutes No I dont think it was more than half of that N than nve minutes That t any more Tat is 1 the time seemed to me the im res > lon I had That would 0 jour best recollection Ye sir it u I couldnt tell you because I had no ouiR ion to take any notice of the llisht of time but I know i was a very J short time Wnat was the first thing he sad to you I Tho Urst thing who said to me Mr Law Klthcr good morning or how Cu iou do g I mean after you sat down After we sat down I s < Ua again What is it Mr Law and ho said I havo been think LW sa ing ho said about mj talk about voting vot-ing for you and I cannot do it for that sum 1 looked at him and I said What do you mean Speak < plainer to me I dont understand I dcnt hardly understand under-stand you and lie said WelL He evaded I and didnt say anything about it It itWait right on that point Mr Van Cott Let air McCuno finish his answer please Mr Evans Bverjthlng he said 11 Van Cott He was right In the mid die of a word Mr Kvans I dont want the whola conversation con-versation Cslon Last question and answer read Mr Kvans Do you wont him to stat 1 the conversatIon M Van Cott No let it go Sir Kans He said to you I dont know whether I can vote for you for that sum or not Something of tnat kind I didnt I couldnt catch his exact words wors HS ho seemed broken up and Incoherent in his manner and talk judging from tho siy he talked to me Ho was sober wasnt he Yes as far aa I could tell And did that startle you somewhat whet he said that 1 didn particulaslj oiirtle me it surprised me Surprised you did it Yes sir Ana you had some talk with him on the Tujdaj night before hadnt you Yes sir sirAnd you had just talked with him over the phone Yes sir Ami what did you say in reply to that a hen ho says Not for that sum 7 1 Jt < f stated to you what I said Mr DicUson Kepeat It again I sUted that I didnt understand him arC to speak plainer 1 that the word you used Something ol that Kind Something of that kind I couldnt bee be-e < ot a to tho language that I used AVho wrote thIs statement that was published in the Deseret News I couldnt tell you who wrote it 1 think Mr Harris Cr Mr Dunbar as I sat there and dlc tLd I I ftTgetwhich one I think It was wasDid you look I over or they read It ever to you afterwards Yes sir Ard you approved it Yes sir v I you told him that you did not Understand Un-derstand him Ye to be more explicit i something of that kmd LAWS BID FOR A BRIBE What did ho say then He went on stating that he y ts a poor man and that I dou know just what excuses he gave but he made a sort of rambling talk thereabout there-about being a poor man and he couldnt afford this that or the other thing or sometning of that kind and wound up linully bj saying he would vote for mo il ilfa for SM0 Yes and what did jou say I told him that I couldnt give him any such sum or consider his proposition a all You told him you couldnt give any such sum Yea bomethinKr of that kind Didn he say Make It four thousand No he did not And didnt you say That Is too much No sir I did not And didnt you say when he ys I said nothing more I got up at the end of that and 1 went to the counter sir You did Yes sir Ddnt joU may when he offered to vote for I5OW didnt jou say No sir I will not glvo you that sum now wait a moment 1 will hot give jou that sum I hve enough votes to elect me anyway 1 said to him Didnt you idThat I did not Or words to that effect Not to convey the meaning at all the way you put It Ot remark that I mudo to him Wait a moment let roe ask you the ricston You taj not to convey that liianinj No 51 Didn you say tbfct Mr Law said I will vote for you for 0 Yes sir I Didnt you say what I hove red to you Possibly I may have used the words as you have got It there Didnt you use those exact words con vpjlng the meaning which they import That I couldnt say conveying the meaning mean-ing that I meant to convej was that I rejected his proposition flatly zeal told him that I tad vote i enough to elect me Now I will read this again Didnt you 7 say that Mr Law sold I will vote for you today for 5009 What do you mean I said I have got votes enough t elect sue novo Possibly I said that Didnt you say that In reply to the question asked you bv air DIckson I couldnt say that I did And didnt you follow It up by saying I wont do anything of the kind and with that I sot upand went lf the counter sort coun-ter or something Something of that sortThe The latter part of that you say you did say Yes I dd I think so Now Mr ilcCune you eS a man of very high sense of honor in respect to er hlSh snse matters of this kind Supposed t be yes sir YvJlrne you do you think have you 3 high sense of honor In my own judgment judg-ment yes And do you revolt at any sort of corruption cor-ruption or corrupt propositions made to you by any one in respect to the purchase chase of a vote Yes sir I should think about it and hold the man in some contempt I con-tempt You would hold him in some contempt would you Yes sir REGARDED LAW AS A SCOUNDREL And you would regard him as a scoun hm dial would you regd couldnt regard him in any other way If he were to waY n proposition a that to you Yes sir And yet when Mr Law says I will give you my vote for 5000 you said I What do you mean I have got enough votes to elect men now Did you mean to say sir that if you did not have oh yll fA otu enough votes to elect you that you may have considered the proposition No sir I did not Why did you make use of that language guage Simply because when he mentioned men-tioned the subject matter in the excitement excite-ment of that 1 probably might have Just blurted out that as the first thing that came to me That is what YOU said I dont know I whether It i positively what I said it is as npar my recollection as can b Just a near your recollection as can I b I know I rejected his proposition and sot up from the seat gt sir And told him that you rejected it Yes sirThat That you had enough votes now without with-out his vote or words to that effect That was mentioned simply In the conversation conversa-tion Possibly That Is what you said at that time And you have stated so In your examination exam-ination In chief Possibly Do you remember being interviewed by the Deseret News on Saturday Yes sir And dont you remember saying In that interview that when he proposed to vote for you for 5010 you told him to go to hell I dont know exactly what my lan = him age was I mieijt have said that to himThat Is not tho language that was used was it Amounted to the wimo language I might have put it In a different way to another man You did not use the language which the Deheret News attrbuted to you did your you-r Thurman Do you say that is in the Deseret News Mr Evans It was the language of John Evans Yes You telephoned to John Evans didnt you No sir 1 did not Didnt you talk with him No sir Talk with Fisher Harris Yes sir What did you t I Fisher Harris I couldnt tell you that I told him tho whole thing And didnt you say he had offered to I vote for you for 5000 Yes DIDNT CONSIGN HIM TO HELL Didnt you tell him that you had told I him to go to hell I dont think I old And then i Fisher Harris communicated communi-cated that word to John Evans on the floor of the joint assembly it was something some-thing that wasnt right was I 1 was perfectly right it wa only just putting it in stronger language to convey it in his way 1 suppose You put it what is that tsronger language I lan-guage The way Harris put I Has didnt put it in stronger language lan-guage than that you used Possibly I You did not use the language yourself I did not even know that he used that I dont think I heard those words and yet I may have done Do you pay now according t your best recollection that when the offer was I I mauo you simply saw i nave enougu votes without yours No sir I do not Or 01 have enough votes I said I something aboutno sir I wouldnt do anything of the kind I said I have got enough votes to elect me anyway or something of that sort Now sir Mr McCune if that man had made you a corrupt and dishonorable proposition at that time in any way didnt you tel him to go to hell No sir I wouldnt have done that to any legislator legisla-tor I You would not have done that to any legislator No sir j A man who had debased his office who had corrupted it and who has violate thd SUtuc of the state and was undertaking under-taking to corrupt the state by making a corrupt proposition you would be so courteous to him as to refrain from using words of that kind would you Yes You would Yes sir You would treat him genteelly and say HOh I wont give you that amount or words to that Ufect Tho man was I bIg enough to have taken me by the scuff j or the neck and shaken me I r you were large enough to say to him I have got enough votes without yours Yes sir I According to this according to your statement you went out on the sidewalk and you joined with Mr Law and walked I with him across the street didnt you I joined with himnow why did you put i I in that way Did you I ask you You know very I well the statement I made in regard to that that I went to the corner he was standing to the west or the building fifteen fif-teen or twenty feet I couldnt 133 how far I turned to the left he was to the I right I turned to the left and I met Jim Shields there and shook hands with him and I didnt see Mr Law where he was standing or anything else and a soon as I stepped on the street ho came opposite I oppo-site meOW me-OW answer the question didnt you after coming out of the drug store didnt you meet and walk across the street with him No sir And didnt you say that you did in your official statement No sir I walked across the street with him He joined me Instead of my joining him I Where did Mr Law join you I couldnt tell < xaptiy it was after I had stepped off ot the sidewalk onto the street You made this statement did you not While doing S Mr Law stepped out that Is I while you were In there getting this package h flopped out of the tlnS a few minutes afterwards I stepped out of the store Mr Law joined me and together to-gether we walked across tho street I south Yes sir LAW STILL PERSISTED S1ILr And while doing so Mr Law remarked that he would probably vote for me today anyhow Yes sir What Is the difference between whether he joined you or you joined him 1 am explaining the difference You came together to the sidewalk No sir i I Didnt you say so practically I here No sir If I did say so and if mat conveys that meanIng I will correct it because we did not And you joined with him or he Joined I with you and together you walked across the street I you will read his own statement he states that himself He states what States that he joined mo on the street but after I had shaken hands with Jim Shields I am asking you what you did I am telling you just the same You are telling what he said No I am telling what is correct and I am stating what be also stated there Notwithstanding the fact that this man had made a dishonorable proposition to you you went out onto the sidewalk and he joined with you Yes And you walked across the street together to-gether Yes And lie said to you while walking across the street that ho would stret probably vote for you tomorrow anyhow No sir not I tomorrow today Today anyhow Yes 11 And what did you say to him simply stated to him If ho did I didnt want him to vote for me on the roll call that I wanted him to wait until after the roll call and change his vote Exactly After he hadmadc this proposition propo-sition to you you were still walking with him about the manner in which ho should vote for you Yes sir Walking along with him on the public street Yes sir And on the other side of tho street after this conversation with him you shook hands with him did you Yes sir ONE ON EVANS Instead of shaking his two fingers why didnt you shake your fist under his nosey nose-y 1 dont want your vote sir You have had a bee in your bonnet 3 good deal yourself would you shake your fist un wou der somebodys nose when you thought there was a chance to further your ambition am-bition In that line biion lne I think that is just what I would 10 Mr MoCunc or any other honest man I did not 8 there is the sum and substance of it Yes I see did you say to him as YOU were crossing the street there or did ho say to you a you were crossing the street I will change that lid you say to Mr Dunbar In conversation which r Dunb a cnenalol you Fisher Harris Dunbar and Mr Sloan were present that as you came out onto the street that Mr Law met 11 you or joined with you and as you were walk log along across the street Law says h30r Now Mr McCune dont get angry with me far making this proposition No sir i Lz ii You think he didnt say that to you No sir Dunbar was mistaken about that then Yes sir And did you say further on that Mr Law sad further You must not blain me because the air is full or suggestions of bribery No sir Tho press is full of suggestion No sir I dont think so And did you sav I know that the air is full of I the press Is full of it and I dont blame you much for having made the proposition to mu I dont think I made that remark Did you make any remark to Mr Dun bar in substance like that No sir Then did Mr Dunbar tell the truth I think he did because there was so much of this dId talk going on I think that Mr Dunbar In stating that a I heard his evidence said that he was not positive about I that he had heard so much of this talk and one thing or another whether he got that from me or somebody some-body else I couldnt say Didnt you hear Mr Dunbar repeat that two or three times Yes sir He repeated it when examined by your own counsel He said as near as he could remember Didnt you hear him repeat It when crossexamined to me Yes Didnt he say thatfjOU said thafto him Yes sir thatlou his best recollection recollec-tion Yes according to his best recollection that was his Idea Did he testify from anything else except ex-cept recollection That is all That is all you can testify from Isa tit t-it That Is all And you went up tc headquarters after all that did you Yes sir Did you make any complaint to anybody any-body about what Sir Law had done Jso sir aout sirDid you EO to any police officer or magistrate mag-istrate No sir Or count attorney No sir You knew he had committed a crime didnt you Yes sir WOULDNT HAVE EXPOSED HIM And you did not propose to expose him No sir iou didnt intend to say anything about I Not a word I he himself hadnt mentioned it Never While sitting In the drug store Mr Law said something to you intimating that ono of your men nad offered some Kind ot a sum to him didnt he No sir Or didnt you gather from his language Yes he said jour men not one of your men Your man No jour men You gathered from what he said that sonn of jour men had made him a dishonorable dis-honorable proposition That is the waIt wa-it looked to me without explanation Now didnt you ask which one of them No sir Or which It was No sir Didnt have enough curiosity to Jind out whether any of jour men had made a dishonorable proposition to him No sir Took no pains to find that out at all None whatever because this thing was all done so quick and was over as I imagined im-agined three or four minutes the time that I talked with Jlim You thought it was about five a little while ago I thought it was about live in the drug store 1 said I didnt think I sat in tho seat with him more than about three minutes Not more than about three minutes No Did you say to Mr Dunbar or Mr Sloan that when you shook hands with him you didnt know but what he had lost two lingers No sir You did not say that No sir The are mistaken about that are they Ye sir Have YOU your overcoat hero that you had on that lay Yes sir I would like to see it just put I on will you please for the purpose of illustration illustra-tion tionWitness Witness docs as requested You havent got any lapels over your overcoat pocket Yes sir they are most of the time inside Most of the time Inside that way Yes sir sirI see Those gloves have never been out of that pocket and these havent been out of this and a handkerchief In tho lefthand pocket Yes the dont fill your pockets up do they No sir Plenty of room In there for S Yes sir When you made this official statement did your attorneys rend it over before It was issued I think they did You think they did Yes 1 was carefully prepared then by you Yes sir sIr And scrutinized bj your attorneys Yes sIrMr DicksonDId you say I saw It 11 McCiine eCme Tho Witness Well I dont think you did you were not there I dont know whether Mr Van Cott was there 11 Thurman was I thought If one of you I was there it included the whole I bundle I of you anyway Who spoke to you first about these charges being made on the floor of the assembly as-sembly Fisher Harris ANTICIPATED AN ELECTION Before that conversation came up or that notification rather you were in expectation ex-pectation of being elected every moment I suppose Yes sir I And the word had gone about the headquarters head-quarters there that Air Law would vote lor you hadnt it No sir not that Mr Law would It had not No sir Wasnt it rumored about there I was rumored about the night before by the I talk these men had made that they didnt know but that Law would vote for me and the impression had got out by the members that were voting for me that they wanted to set into the band wagon Did you hear the rumor time and again Yes there was a rumor of tho matter That 11 Law would be one of the parties par-ties who would vote for you on that taI I ta-I dont know whether I had but the boys say the rumor was around but I didnt get it myself no aIr Dunbar asked me when I returned whether Law was going I to vote for me He did ask you Yes sir What did you say to him I told him no and he says then he may You says no and then you says he may Yes that was the time of Then you did hae Mr Van CottThat was the time what Tho Witness I stated to him when lie asked me first said he Is a dirty cur or something of that kind I forget just the language that J used and he asked meat me-at the same time I said He wont vote for me and then I said he may You first said he was a dirty cur Yes sIr That Is the language No I dont know that that is the language I used It that wn something hike The first thing you said to him was when Dunbar asked If he was going to vote for you you said ho was a dirty cur Yes sir a dirty cur a scoundrel it that kind was a remark of i And then Mr McCune after tat you told him that he would not vote > for you I said that he wouldnt vole for me I aid dont know whether It preceded or whether wheth-er It was after that whether it came after afer making the other remark but at the remark and then I same time I mace the said he might He might Yes t That this dirty cur might vote for you Xo I didnt put it In that way The man whom you had just denounced ac a dirty cur Yes or a dirty scoundrel scound-rel that was it reI YOU hud given him that money in that connection you would have been apt to have made just such a remark as that wouldnt you that he was a dirty cur for having accepted it No T would not If he had acrpptcd It yOU say Yes I posalblv might Yes I would not have been so apt to have said i thpn But you might have said It No It would have been slmolv I would have considered mvself in lhp same boat then You would have considered yourself In tho same boat Yes sir You knew ho was a poor man didnt you I did not DIDNT KNOW HE WAS POOR Didnt you have that information brought to you that he was a poor man No sir I never even questioned anybody or asked anything about that part of his I history until he mentioned it himself You knew It then at least Yes sir That he was a poor man Yes sit And wanted to get sOme money Yes I sirDid you know that Mr Sloan had given him the fatherly advice that he was a young man and that he was poor and that he would have a bright uturo before be-fore him if ho would simply permit his financial onatomj to bo strengthened up a little bit by taking a bribe No sir sir Didnt know anything about that No sirThat by such conduct as that he might make considerable of a man In the com mnnltj I dont know anything about that You dont know anything about that No sir And you mean to say do you Mr Mc Cune that It a man makes you a cold I blooded proposition to accept 5000 for his j proposIton 0 official vote in the legislature that you will walk across the street with him and chatting with him without denouncing II him and that you will shake his hand upon parting I mean to lay In this case that I did You did that very thing Yes sir You did not havo so much Indignation then that I would prevent you from doing do-ing that No sir When ho mNJe that proposition to you why didnt you raise right up there in the presence of Mr Horn or anybody else and denounce him as he deserved In the presence of whom Mr Horn Mr Horn Yes in the drug store there For the simple fact that I did not Is the best evidence evi-dence eo why I didnt Just for the simple fact you did not Yes I YesYou were not wrought up then to that o tension No sir I was not I just seemed to annoy you a little I YesMade you a little bit petulant didnt I it Yes I I Felt as though you had Just as soon he hadnt said it I dont know that all thoo particular feelings passed through I mv anatomy at that time No they didnt pass through jour anatomy No not that you describe It so I minutely PRICE WOULDNT HAVE MATTERED i You were annoyed a little and the price was a little too high to start with No ltte I the price wouldnt have made much difference dif-ference crr r was going I to buy Just as soon pay 55000 as n5 No I wouldnt have been apt to dicker with tho man if I had gone there to buy Why didnt you give him 100 instead of ninetj elghtj I nlnetISht Mr Van Cottl object to that sort of a question It Is a dirty insinuation that Is I I not justified mi u UP I The Chairman me oDjecuon is sus tamed If von had given him S and promised I to give him 0 and 23 more would YOU have stuck to jour bargain If ho 1ave had voted for you and fulfilled his promise 11 DIckson We object to that question ques-tion QuestIon read Argued by counsel 11 SorensonI move the objection be sustained I Mr Cummlngs second the motion The motion was put and carried I I will ask you Mr McCune if you wi about have a high sense of morality influence of that kind Yes sir infuence very high ensie I dont know what ver you will class as a very high sense I have a high sense A high sense Yes my record has been before the public from a boy up I here so that I dont think there is any stain on it even if you do or allude an arrest that you didnt follow up the balance of I alluded to that Mr McCune because be-cause the supremecourt of this state has decided it is a perfectly nroner I question But you l new from the very man that has followed me maliciously who hag given you this story in a way to injure me and I have heard It before be-fore on the streets I is true I is not true it was any crime What do you call a crime 11 Dickson Werent you informed what the outcome of it was that he was discharged 11 Evans I dont know what became be-came of i I dont care What do I call a crime Why perpetrating perpe-trating something that would be classed tratng cass ed as a crime Werent you arrested for a offense Yes sir I never was tried was discharged dis-charged ImmedIately as soon as I sot here without my giving any evidence whatever What do you call a crime one where you are proven to be guilty One at least where you would be tried and find no conviction That is what you would call a crime Certainly if there was any grounds for i but I know that the man that told you gave you the outcome or else you ought to have got It before you asked the question EVANS GROWS LOFTY LFY I dont care to have any controversy with you at all 11 McCune I propose to ask you questions just the same a I would any ordinary man you nor jour counsel either one sir ca dissuade dis-suade me from mj duty 11 Dickson object to this lecture to the witness Mr Evans He is lecturing me and I propose to show him I am an American Ameri-can citizen as well as her he-r Dickson Go on and ask a ques ton and we will object to it when we think that they are improper and when we do not we will not object Now 11 McCune how many men have you in your employ in this campaign cam-paign I couldnt tell you Dont keep any account of it No sir None whatever None whatever Did O ever have any consultation with Heber J Grant Yes sir How many I couldnt tell you Could you give an Intimation of how many No sir I cannot I have met Heber J Grant a great many times Was he in jour employ once No sir he was not Did you ever furnish him with any money to forward jour campaign No sir I did not Did you ever relieve him of any embarrassing em-barrassing financial circumstances No sir Or strengthen his physical anatomy No sir 11 Van Cott His what His financial artatomj Is that the reason why you answered No because be-cause I said physical Did you ever strengthen his financial anatomy No sir I did not You never had any business dealings I with him then Yes sir I have a good deal of business dealings A great many Yes sir Did you talk with him about this senatorial contest before you talked with test anybody else Senatorial con testYes race whatever you have a mind to call it You mean my entering Yes entering the race No not by any means I had talked with a great man before I had to him Thereupon an adjournment was taken tak-en until Monday Feb 26 at 930 a m |