| Show HENRY M STALEL He Tells an Old Friend About the Barttelot Controversy THE CHARGE AGAINST JAMESON Troop Exonerates Him of the Fearful Charge About Cannibalism The Explorer Demands That All be Told Special to THE HERALD Examiner Dispatch NEW YORK Nov 11 Henry M Stanley Stan-ley notwithstanding his resolution to let the Barttelot controversy rest unbossomed himself today to an old friend This friend announced that he intended using the matter for publication Stanley made no objection The explorer began by saying he had spent the entire day reading Maior Bart elots published memoirs He had read he cabled interview with Bonny which was published in the London Time in which Stanleys statements regarding the conduct of the commander of the rear column col-umn wera upheld and corroborated Mr Bonny has gone further than I did ho said but he has told nothing hat T did not know He has spoken of one or two things which had escaped my memory but which I recalled upon reading his statement The account of Barttelots nhuman treatment of his men has naturally nat-urally given the public a greatshock They have been slow to accept it because they are loath to believe that a white man could L act in such a brutal way Now I want I the whole truth to come out and I will L t wi court a law suit or parliamontry inquiry Are you going to take any action to I bring it into a court of law I I am I have retained Sir Charles Russell Rus-sell who will thoroughly familiarize himself him-self with the matter and prepare my case so that wo may go into court immediately on my return to England That will not be before next April as I am under contract with Major Pond until that time When did you first discover how Major 1ajor Barttelot had been behaving When read the log book of the rear guard I noticed that day after day there were records of the most extreme punish I ments I it had only been occasionally that such entries were made I would not have paid much attention to the matter but it was every day Then 1 questioned Bonny and he told me the whole horrible story Mr Bonny says in his interview in the London Times that the natives would have natves killed Major Barttelot if he had not taken him by force and bound him That is nonsense All they would have had to do would have been to put a guard over Barttelot and he would have been perfectly safe from any danger of personal violence There were four ablebo led strong men against one man twentynine years old and yet they allowed him to go on with his barbarous conduct day alter day and keep it up for months ater Mr Bonny says that Barttelot was insane in-sane Do you think that he wasP That is the very question which I asked Runny when I first heard of the crueltv 1 said But Bonny tnis man must nave been mad he must lave been crazy to do what he did He answered me No Mr Stanley he was not crazyhe was as sane as you or lam He was simply wicked and cruel And about Jameson was he too insane when he bought that poor girl and sold her to the cannibals so he might see just how they went about Killing and eating a human hu-man being I cannot understand how a sane man could have done such a thing Jameson vas a mildmannered pleasant fellow rather retiring and quiet He always ap peared to me to be a perfect gentlemangit was not until I reached Cairo that I learned what he had done with the girl and the cannibals I was afraid to trust Barttelot at first I i had been possible for us all to have traveled together I would never have left him to follow out of my sight He looked like a jocky or a prize fighter bull was not warned about him until it was too late He had been guilty of cruel acts in the Nile Nie campaign before I took him His brother officers knew this Do you think that his brother Captain Barttelot was innocent in what he did 1 No He is the majors twin brother in everything He has the same vindictive disposition Ho knew what he was doing I I when he roused me to tell all that I knew What have you to say about Troups statement made to a Boston paper the other day II have this to say That the only quarrel quar-rel I had with Troup was because I would L not publish in my book his attack upon L Major Barttelot I said to him You arc too general in your attack The man is I dead take out some of your abuse and I will print what you have to say This he declined to do and so my book came out without his statement For this he is angry with me How did tho natives look upon these cruel practices Did they blame others besides Barttelot They said the great master had allowed alowed the little masters to do as they pleased with them to beat thorn and to kill them Yes tney blamed tuo otners too There is a great deal yet to be told It will not come out until it is brought out in a law court Then only will every thing be explained Then I will be vindicated for the course I have pursued and itis important I should be If the matter was allowed to rest here I would be the result resull Why in future ex peditions a commanding officer would be afraid to censure his subordinate officers whether they deserved it or ofeers would be afraid to speak the truth about them For the benefit of other commanders as well as for my own vindication it is im portant that tho truth should established concerning the relief expedition establshed expediton Mr Stanley you have spoken of the punishment inflicted by the officers of the rear guard as having bean cruel and exces sive What did you consider a proper method of punishing mon in Africa J I spoke of Barttelots punishments as having been cruel because they were so terribly so He would beat men for steal ing until their flesh dropped from steal their backs As Bonny has said ho killed a man by giving him 150 lashes That mans real offense was stealing a piece of beef |
