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Show SULLIVAN IS FOR BECKER Witness Swears That Rosenthal Ro-senthal Murder Is Gamblers' Work New York, Oct. 19. Jack Sullivan, "king of the newsboys," Indicted with the four gunmen for the murder ol Herman Rosenthal, tried to unfold on the witness stand at yesterday's session ses-sion of Police Lieutenant Decker's trial, his version of an alleged conspiracy con-spiracy by gamblers to kill Rosenthal Rosen-thal and "frame tip" Becker for the murder. Through him the defense planned to go" far in proving It3 contention that Becker had nothing to do with the murder, but was lUmbclf the victim vic-tim of a conspiracy. District Attorney Whtman. Deckel's Deck-el's prosecutor, was virtually forceu on the stand as a witness for the de-enso de-enso Immedatoly before Sulllvnn had testified Mr. Whitman said he had made stipulations with Roqe. Webber. Vallon and Schepps, the State's chlel witnesses aganst Deckor, before they agreed to turn state's ovldnce. The most of these stipulator was not Jsclosed, but Mr. Whtmni) agreed to produce them n court and swore that he had not promlsoj the four Immun- Tnrlr QlllHnn tftariflstH (hot h llaH known Ro.e, Webber, Vallon and , Schepps for IS years and Becker fpr ) I seven car3. i ' "Where were you on the night ol the murdei were you in the nolgli-j nolgli-j uorhood of Forty-second and Broadway"' Broad-way"' he was asked. I J "Yes." "Did you go to Webber's place?' 1 At Webber's Place. "Yes, about 2 o'clock. There were only two tables of po.cer players and 1 was looking for Sam Paul, so I went out. This was five minutes to 2 o'clock. Thoie was a big mob I the o while 1 was drinking a soda and j suddenly tiey all lan out 1 pushed my way to the Metropole, where 1 I taw Herman Rosenthal lying on tho sidewalk. "I leaned over Rosenthal and said: 'Herman. ho did It?' but there was no answer. Herman was dead." When Sullivan reached this climax i In ills story he paused and looked j around as If to note the effecL I "Did Valjon, Robo and Webber to I collier or separately, ask you to I swear or to say that Lieutenant Decker war in Iront of Weber's place with them while jou were talking with them?"' "Yes." shouted Sullivan before Mr. Moss could object. This answer wa? ordered stricken out. Mr. Mclntjre then addressed the court. "I want to show b this witness.' he rid. "tbat Rose. Webber, Vallon ?nd Scheppr? conspired to kill Roscn-I Roscn-I thai Sndenendontly of Becker." i The attorney then asked Sullivan If auv of the four men named had spoken to him about killinz Rosenthal, Rosen-thal, but Ju3tlce' Goff refused to allow al-low the witness to answer. Talked With Rose. "Did jou have a conversation in the Tombs with Jack Rose on July 20n" returned Mr. Mclntyre. - "Yes." "Did Roso sa to jou that the district dis-trict attorney was wiling to sign a stipulation for leniency or immunllj to anv one who would squeal on Decker?" Deck-er?" " "He did," Sullivan replied. -Did he tell you that Vallon, Webber Web-ber and Schepps were In bad and facing fac-ing the electric chair unless they gave Decker up " "He did." "Did Rose cay to you that they were going to squeal on Becker?" "Yes " "Did Roso say to you thon. 'you know VJhitman is after Decker and we are qolng to squeal on him?'" "No, he said they were going to frame Becker tip." "Did Rose say to you. 'That Is tho only way for us to got out of here. I would frame up Decker, Waldo or the mayor to pet out of here?'" "Ycb, he did." This was ordered stricken out and Sullivan turned appealingly to tho court. Asks for Chance. "Just give me a chance. Judge," ho said "I can tell this thing In (en minutes if you will let me." "Did Webber say to you. 'I hay) promised Jack Rose $2,000 not to Im-I Im-I plicate me1' " "IJo told mo that n the Tombs." "Did you say to Wobber, 'Dridglo. for God's sake do not frame up,' and did Drldgle say, i am going along on the band wagon and I would frame up Deckor. Waldo or tho mayor In order to cet out?I" "Yec" "Dd Vallon say to you, 'If you don't corroborate us you'll never get out. for Whitman will have you Indicted for murder In the first degree?' " "Yes." ! "Eefore you were indicted did Web-ier Web-ier say to you. 'You'd better corao in and get the benefit of immunity?'" "Ho didn't ay that :be said " Objection to the question was sus-'alned. sus-'alned. Sullivan mado soveral attempts to ell what be had tried to say and Ihen rrnpd to Justice Goff. "Your honor, plennc let mo explain fhls thing, not only for my sake, but for Ood'a Hake." ' "Did Herman Rosenthal ask you on the ught of Julv 13 to swear to a false statement against Decker?" Cnnnot Answor, Again Sullivan was nol allowed to answer and again he appealed to tho court. "Aw vour honor." b said, "why don't you let me explain this? It would pnly take five mlnuteB. Tt we koep in thM foolishness It will take two houri " "PM Brldgle Webber av he had J2P 000 and that he would rKc you half If you would stick to him?" "Yc"5. nn-i Sl.ono more," 'Did Prldcln Webber tell you two niontjT: before the murder that hr wr-s coin- to have Herman Rosenthal murdred?" The question was stricken out and Sullivan made another appeal to the court. "Ifvcrythine I want to tell has been stricken out." he complained. "But when I was with the dhtrlct attorne there was no one to oliJe,ct and they asked what they wanted to." Mr. Mclntyre turned tho witness over to Mr. Moss for cross-examination. Sullivan became combative when Mr. Moga asked If he had even given ball for criminals. WItnecs Objects. "I object to that question," shouted shout-ed the witness He was directed to answer and eald he had given bail only lor "crap shooters," but never for "anything worse." Sullivan was soon shouting at the top of his volco and refused to be subdued. "Weren't you interested in a crap game at 9S Second avenue?" asked Mr. Moss. "I was never interested In nothing. I novcr had anything to do with a crap game and the district attorney knows It You've got me mixed up with someuoay else. "Didn't you ever collect money from disorderly houseB?" "You' o got me mixed up, I tell you You have got mo in wrong. Somebody's Some-body's dreaming when they told you that: What arc you trying to put ovci that on me for9 You're trying ito frnmc me up " Bessie Feldman, a 17-year-old girl the next witness, aald that on thf evening of July 10 Morris Luban was at her home In Brooklyn and remained remain-ed until 1:15 o'clock the morning or July 10. She failed to varv her story on cross-examination. Luban ha3 testified testi-fied for tho state aB an eye-witness of the murder of Roronthal. |