| Show I Prof Peterson eterson Submits His Side of It rio f-rio the time Sporting Editors of oC the time TO i. i Salt Sail Lake Lalee Press and th the General General General Gen Gen- eral Public It Is Imperative that thal th the B. B Y U. U make a statement In answer to 0 tim the article written b by th time the chairman of or orthe the time athletic con committee of tIme the U. U A. A C. C which was wat published hed in the tho Salt alt Lake Lalee papers of oC February 20 O and 21 n. Tho Time article refers to letters written written writ writ- ten and conversations con carried on In order to he lie able to Judge the flue controversy fairly It Is necessary ar to know more about time the facts Inthe in hum inthe the time case Wc We c too dislike to air our ml- ml standings before time the public but when forced to do lIo so we must speak We Ve e tail full to see sec ee the time reason wh why Dr West esl wrote crote the time first part of oC his article Tho The Italic nalle and Simmons Simmons Sim Sim- mons affair should have been discussed discussed dis dis- cussed separately on Its merits merit Since the athletic relations of our schools In past paCt years are in ques ques- tion It Is necessary to consider theta them in this discussion Dr West est says sa that a local chapter chap chap- tel ter of oC the time 11 U. M M. t. t F I A. A C C. was waR formed ormed April 7 1917 and that the mules of or the thc were then rhen adopted In iii th thir ir entirety excepting except except- ing hug the Hi 15 unit rul rule The Time facts of oC the time case are nrc these The B n. Y I U. U and B n. n Y V. C C. could not become af affiliated at- at Ciliated or actual members of oC the time theR P. P M. M t. t F. F A A. C C. by 11 an any action of this meeting The Tho H. H Y U U. was wa admitted admitted admit admit- ted to tho time conference January 12 1918 The rho B n. Y c C C. Is 18 to this date neither admitted nor affiliated with said laid organization At the meeting r referred to the B. B Y Y U. U and the time B. B Y 1 C. C merely metel made statements of oC the type of oC il It the they could live up to In the Ule fitt fu fit tu t ture u re The Time B. B Y U U. was urged to make application for fOl conference membership mem mcm- ber but bUl k it was definitely stated d that the h school was waa not strong enough to do that at al the present nt time It was wal a agreed by unanimous vote ote that thal the time B ll ii Y V. U. U be hp allowed two Years vears In which to adjust to the tho 15 unit rule The Toe whole effect of oC this timis meeting was that lint th the U U. of or U. U and U U. A A. C. C a agreed to tu compete with the 13 B. B Y 1 U. U and B n. Y Y C C. for Cor the tho period stated under tic above aboe e condition conditions It wa was also alno a agreed at the ex- ex x- x of or two years Ial the B n. Y V. U. U would make application for tor membership mem mem- b In the time II n. M M. 1 F I A A. A C C. There Is IB no imo sl significance In Dr West's ests statement that tho time holiday meeting was uvas held lucid for COI the time purpose of oC chan changing ln the rules tule Wc We c now have ha three colleges cs In Utah In the conC conference Can we now meet at ata a Christmas meeting or any other mooting hero and change the tho rules iule I Th Time The constitution provides pro that the time rules can be amended on only I at nt the annual Denver r and then b by the theote vote ote of oC nil butone hulon hut but huton on one 11 of oC the members presentA present A week after arter this meeting Dr I 1 West not notified HIed our r representative presenta tI ve that ho Ime objected to the B. B Y l t. using high school men as ns It I gave the rhe Institution an aim unfair advantage In competition He lie threatened t tr r bring th the tho matter up nt rut the time Novem o ncr ber lJ r meeting 10 mc na nave It u attain again tumor inor- discussed This Is the yean cAr notice he lie refers to in his state stata- ment In reply let us say la first t. t that hart had time the April decisIon h been cn re- re III In November o tho the B. B Y V. I l. U. U could have adjusted As 8 the time meeting meet meet- ing was not lucid held until January In Insufficient hum In- sufficient time was given for Cor an aim adjustment to be made Second l. l after arter a vote voto In the time pill mp meeting had granted us two years an w we hid had no reason to believe blIe that Dr West's Mt's objection would carr carry AVe iVe were aware all nil along that Dr DI I West's objection would carry Wo Vc c were aware all aon along Dr Vest was wap oa eager r to limit our winning I. I I possibilities The other representatives representatives' lIve fives less leas biased were willing for Cor forthe the flu two two- two year period to stand Time Thc B. B Y i Y U U. faculty tive tI voted voled n tho the motion mollon not nol because lIsP he hc feared hl his hiM faculty acuity m would not support flu him but bo- bo cause C h he lit was wa opposed to this u method of oC forcing a school to make mako the time proposed change Imme Immediately after It had hall bean granted d' d to adjust t to It Wc We e must state In fairness to tIme the I 1 P. P of oC 1 that Its has hns sluice since s od I regret Iet to us Ut that hv lie voted for Cor tho the I change At Al a meeting I when time hn matter mus reconsidered J for Cor the 8 second time the U rep- rep 1 I i I Continued on Page 3 PROF PETERSON TELLS HIS SIDE OF IT Continued From Page Pae 1 I. res e voted to stand b by tho the thoa a agi agreement cement of or April Apri 7 7 It I IH is true ns as Dr West est states that eight I ht years s el ago a substitute high school student was permitted to represent tho the B D. Y I I 1 But at that time according to the thc Utah Intercol intercollegiate glate rules six years o of competition were allowed That Hame same athlete has another year to compete under cinder conference rules if it ithe he enters school school The IT U. A. A C C. was then timen Using men of first and second year yeah car high school standing The Tho C. C solicitous solicit S lf 1 1 A A. appears er very ous om over the thc welfare of ot B B. Y U. U high school boys bos and ar argues us that It I Is unfair to use up their years of competition but at tho time same time It I defends the 13 B. B Y Y C. C In It Its u use e of high school hool mono mon and argues that It should be tie permitted to continue continue con con- this practice The article artcle under discussion states states- Previously to starting for Denver the B n Y I. I U U. I. I representative after studying the time rule book granted that the first five rules being heln all al the rules on scholarship could be le answered In the tho affirmative tive the for or a student with wih fifteen units unis of entrance as S well weB as for tor a u student with wih fifteen units unis plus twelve credits cred creti- its IR and was ery very anxious to lo know what the rul rules meant meant because It Involved two of their ten four four- four year car high school students n It I waH waK at theli thol therefore that tho the question queston was submitted to the time conference con con- ference as to what the rules r mutant meant As Ams evidence e of ot the tact fact that the rules were ambiguous n a 1 motion moton ii WaN made after in Hi minutes were spent in Its Is ascertainment explaining explain In ing what the rule meant meant Which Wi way this rule In It Interpreted In- In one of the football men who I S represented the time I V. V A C C. la last t fall all all Till Timis H Is an out and ment of the facts acts The t word woid The he discussion began Isn't true on the time train t-n t n route to Denver Don and amid not miot before tho time start stait was made maie Time The U U. of U U. representative e to together to- to gether with wih the time B D. Y 1 Y U U. representative live tive asked the graduate manager of ot the U U. A. A C. C by what wha system of mathematics a n certain U U. A. A C. C football player had been fl figured eligible He lIe le admitted that h he h. h did cud not know Dr West Vest cst then timen Joined MR lie lR and being asked tho time same hamo falO question ques ques- tion tor gave us the U U. A A. A. A C C. interpretation tattoo tation tave of ot the rules stating that If I cacti fach question were iere d 8 separately separate separate- I ly lr and alone mind and each answered In tho time affirmative e a man was then I eligible By D B means of this in- in question method tho the U U. A A. C C. had be been n making Ineligible men eligible for tor or several Years vears This was sU suspected b by the n B n Y U U. and mind andU U U. o of U U. officials and time the conversation erS con tion wa designed net to bring out th time the facts To ro piove 10 0 that the U U. U A A. C. C knew their men wore iere Ineligible note the following from rom a letter leter to tho B. B V l' LT U. representative under 1 Jl n. i 1917 date of April Apri certain Wyo Wio To m my knowledge letl t Wyoming ming has asked three times to to tobe be admitted to the conference and to tobe tobo tobo bo be allowed to not live l e up tip to th the freshmen ruling an and amid it has been denied ever every time i I. I I c. c admittance ha hats has been denied but the tho they ha have havo been beon allowed to play pIa freshmen fre This of or course means that Wyoming Wyo Wyo- yo ming m Inn may use men with wih fifteen en entrance entrance entrance en- en trance units without college credit but hut the time Wyoming school could not a member of the It H M 1 not lint I F count A A. C. C Its Is competition could In lim spite o of this knowledge o of or re requirements re- re time tho U U. A A C. C a regular member of ot the time cont conference rence has bo been ben n using men with wih ii tim no moro more i- i than the Wyoming athletes athletes ath ath- letes had hind It I line has hn been using freshmen fresh men without cole college e credits credis whilo tim the e conference schools have havn tle trusted Its It certification without U Tills THIS FACT I KNOWN DR DH WEST o TIt OTH OTHER n NOT NOTTO NOTTO OT TO 0 BItING TIlE THC TIE CASI BEFORE THE DENVER MEETING AND OFFERED OFFERED OFFERED OF OF- TO LET THE B. B D Y U U. PLAY ANY AY AY ATHLETES IT DESIRED DE DE- SIRED SItED PROFESSIONALS OR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS It I Is needless to add that the proposal was not accepted The matter matel was brought up before bo- bo fore the tho conference meeting and as asa asa a n result resul the recent football vIctorIes victories victories victor vIctor- ies of ot the U. U A A. C C. were understood to bo be forfeited Dean Manly president president pres pres- ident of ot the time conference said eaid the time Colorado Colora o schools had always clearly clearly clear clear- ly h understood the tho rules Dr Marshall Mar Mar- shall shaH however Insisted that K a t definite def dM- mite Interpretation be inserted Inthe in inthe the minutes to avoid an any future Ingenious question methods As to the Italic Raie and nl Simmons Simmon case cabe the B B. B Y U U. has nothing to hold back or cover er co up A simple statement of oC facts acts Is sufficient and the time public lUbliC can Judge le to fot fec l' l them them- selves The he n new w edition of or tho the rules rule was given us In iii answer to a aletter aletter letter leter to the treasurer secretary of the conference It I certain certainly would not occur to one that older editions NIton edi NI- NI ton were needed to interpret the theS S new flew one Our committee Interpreted Interpreted Inter Inter- the rules Just as a number of or others have done A professor of oC the U U. of ot U U. Kal said that the rule I Is poorly worded I If it meant what the conference representatives said It did lid A of the time U. U A A. C. C 0 expressed the time same samne opinion Again the president of the confer conference con con- fer ference wrote under date of oC February February Feb Feb- 16 1918 I 1 h believe le e that Rule Hul 5 should be 10 ad it-ad Iad as If IC the word Immediately were ivere Inserted between the words residence and prece preceding The remaining portion porton of ot Rule u j provides pro that absence for at least lentH one year shall not count against eligibility and the time Implication Is that absence o of less than a year counts a against alnet b I I I i t n y Again the letter states I think It I unfortunate that the time committee on OH revision redrafted the thc sections Tho rho sections of ot the tho 1911 edition re referred re- re erred ferrel to specifically mention one ono semester absence and arid arc are clear Quoting further It I Is unfortunate the language e chos chosen b by the time revisIon revision revision revis revis- ion committee did not miot make mako it itc I c denier 1 ea I Ca It I therefore appears that the th letter of ot the th rule Iule l is 11 not clear to toone toone one omme who isho knew nothing o of the In Intentions In- In of ot the conference When hen wo we tenton found out the Intended meanIng meanIng mean mean- In Ing we wc admitted that under the time letter of the thc rule our men omen were not hot el eligible After ACter tho the U U. A A. C. C protested pro pro- tested our men mon we asked tho time purpose pur pur- pose 1050 of the rule and we learned from several se sources that It was to prevent a a man remaining out of oC school after the tho football season sea sen- son Ol and amid then entering again the time autumn for tor his favorite sport next 1 sport 1 i. i c c U ua-cc ua 1 me LUC I luie ULU L ma interpretation Interpolation But rules ate ale not expected to deal out injustice There are caves cases when lieu the letter should not bo be applied Two T C cases caNes HOS came cam up at nt tho time last conference meeting Since wo we now how fOW have the practice In mind that the rule In Intended Intended In- In tended to prevent boys boy in school for athletics Oi only we feel that It does 1005 not apply to our boys hos at all nih al and nd therefore It Is probable that the spirit of the rule Is 15 In iii their favor tavor Mr tr Simmons Is a college senior and a n married marriel man He lie le has his carried a course courso of ot eighteen hours hour per r for the pant two J years veal's Hn tin ln applied for registration last fall all but on account of or a misunderstanding mis understanding with wih tho the l school hool au authorities authorities au- au was refused registration In Iii no wa way mi did this Involve his lila standing and rating In iii scholarship and It I was late hate Mr Simmons Simmons Sim Sim- mons mona thou then consulted the time draft board hoard and was ad that he would have haie ample to finish time the years year's work before ho lie would be bo called caled out Olt Ho lie 10 IB in In imm school for or school work Ills Ils record anti and tho time fact act that he ime finally returned for Cor registration n prove his Mr Mi h Ralle nale has his also been up to the last lust semester a resident student student stu stu- dent clout for tor or time the pat past t two years ears II lila His rf record ord shows show that hat In two years years' car time he lie earned six and a halt half imal units Puma plus eighteen 1 hours coll college K worl He lie le Is subject to draft drar and expected to bo be called out before Christmas He lie also Ilso states that In accordance with wih an agreement en entered entered en- en Into with his brother ho lie has been sending mone money to him while ho he Is II attending a dental school in Chicago o. o Ills His brother Is to reciprocate reciprocate reciprocate b by keeping him In school until he finishes his college course The U. U of ol U U. has not given Iven a written statement concern concerning In the eligibility of our men neither had Dean Manly two da days s before beforetime beor tho time date set for the Logan game The U A. A C C. sent In the tho names of oC two of their men who were de |
