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Show PRESIDENT JEliBS ' POWER OF Administration Answers Congressional Agitation ! for a War Cabinet and Munitions Director by the Introduction of a i Bill Transmitted by the j Executive. j WAR TO BE WAGED ! ON NEW MEASURE; Senate Military Commit-Members Commit-Members Cross-examine Secretary Baker, I SSQio Promises to Make j Another Statement, Giving Facts and Figures Fig-ures Wanted. WASHINGTON. Feb. Almost coln-c-lir.t with Secretary Baker's reappearance reappear-ance be f o r e the senate rr J ! 1 ta ry c m ra : t -.ee today for cr05s-e3arr.ir.at.icn upon his recent statement of what America is do-ir.r do-ir.r in the v. ar. the administration's an-Tr an-Tr to cpr.gressior.al agitation for a war. cabinet and munitions director wus given by :r.tn2"crion in the sir. ate of a bill transitu tied by president Wilson, which ou.d give the president b'.ar.ke; au- j thorriy to reorganize and coordinate a" t ' f' ier&l departments, bureaus, agenei&s. j '-.'ficia.'.i and personnel. j The new measure was tken to the 1 cs.;::a.I by a persona! representative of , the president and introduced by Senator 1 Overman. Democrat. It would empower t'.e president to take over '""mipleU-ly the executive branch of the government for ie period of the war. rearranging exiat-s exiat-s agencies ard their functions and f'- bhshing such new ones as he might tee fit. One Probable Move. T r. e r e has b ee n r. o intimation of any specific action the president has in mind. x , ir.e b;a referred to the judiciaVy 1 kSutpee, of which Senator Overman k:s? Democratic member. One move which some officials pay la contemplated con-templated is the appointment of a chairman chair-man of the war industries board a post now vacant and the investment of the office with powers similar to those proposed pro-posed for the director of munitions. Mr. Eaker in his examination demurred at telling in open session the basis for his assertion that the prospects were not unpromising for enough chips to put & ', million and a half American soldiers In ' France this year. After much disus-j disus-j t'On, during whih Senator Hitchcock, '".o has termed the secretary's statement aly exaggerated a r.d prepostero-je." ir.Hu'ted upcn a:i answer to his questions, j t'-.e committee agreed that the informa-' informa-' ':on should be given in "rct session, and Mr. Baker promised to prepare a --aterr.ent. , Inquiry to Proceed. In t-e meantime the committee will ; Crocked with itj srener war inouir'. ex-I ex-I aminir.ff tomorrow Major-General Wheel-j Wheel-j r, acting chief or ordnance, regard in? rrc-duction in chlorine, ponder and other txrXosives. Secretary Baker told the committee tiit more American troops had br-en got to France on January 1 than called for f-y the schedule. He explained that In nis calculations as to what rould be done -e did not rely entirely on American p'iprir.g. b'it wou'j go no further at the f -iblic hearing. In expiair.lr.tr function; of the reorganized reorgan-ized war department bureau?, the secre-tsry secre-tsry aid that while KdArd R. Stett'l-'i'-H the new survf-yor-ffenrrai of sup-Meg, sup-Meg, lackH technical lepal authority he i-5 8 broad powers In seeurinz production, w'..h larger duties than England's mur.f-"uons mur.f-"uons director. Legislation in unneaiy to secure rovtrnment co-ordination, he contends, ether than that he sujrffsted and which Is prcpobed in the Overman bill. I Overman Bill a Surprise. I r".rviu't!on of the Overman bill ramp 1 ' :rpnse and promises tu change en-ri en-ri ihe charat-r "f th t on' ro'. ery "er war ma.hine: ;.' reorganization. Ad j (Continued, on Page Three.) PfiSinENT ASKS ' HESS FOfl SIJTPDIfiS Sends Bill to the Senate and Controversy Over the Conduct of War Will Change in Character. ; (Continued from One.) ,.. if.. mi !ivkrMwn w N in viw vi I c irtV.iil'l MtW-nvu! LlM wot'k th.it t- . vi rt c 1 1 a 1 1 1 m i infr ie mil n.ti i , iV ''i-.'.itc iu;l to soic picivi' tfi) j J : , ( v'-v 'v'l.:.-U'!l rtS !:i r ,i vsw.-il.:r, : , t'VvV'S of i nrw me-isutv, w Mch I ; ..co;oii'. uuuTht by uiiMni'ers j . orros srantms t .-. pi ted cut I ui- j i -t-r ivno:s. ' ts;.-or-.s of tK.e sen.il nd hou today visseu without revival of the contro- j vry. but tomorrow tuldrvs-f .s In Nth Ni hedged. IrXTof Measure. j T rex t of the Mil follow?: A tvU authorfjirc the p-rstdent to i l--or,'.:T'itf and oiho!MU( t e-j e-j c-:::. N.:re.u:?, a i;-e:iOL. of-!.era -d r o i . or r i rpos j in the mifr- I t f e v : u u i y a : : . : n : o t e t rt e c 1 1 i a r.iiioM of soernnuMit. I So r.".i 1 . T' it i or the ni lor.tl ! :'::' dt:'ens for t 1 u mu'- ,(:".:! prvj-tu-ut :on of the war. tor ; ::-e s..pror and .wr.icv.AWo of t t'O j .t-:vy .i:v1 y, for The letter nril!..i-I nril!..i-I Ti of reo;:r.-e Industries, and vr ::-.e more eo.;t:ve exerviM- t"d , -:-e efh.':ent admur.Mraiion ly the 1 ;.-e?:rie:,.i o: his ivwors as command- i t r-::er :ef of the hi nd and naval r--e5. ih.o pres'.dent " i: hereby au-: au-: vr:-ej and e::ipo ercd to make -.:vh re d.stri nation of functions a:::": re.",;:.ve agencies as ho may v". peMsarN . includintc any f unc-i unc-i .v s. d :.'.es a: i d powers hitherto hy aw iO!'ferre-d upon any exeoiit'.ve rto-: rto-: artn'eni, oo:n:ir.ss:o!i. bureau, aen-v aen-v oii'- e or ofnv't-r. In such manner s !.:s .ilirent sh.a'il soeai best n:tti rarry out the purposes of this aot. s-i to this end is authorized to ir.a-ke ? ; i regulations a::d to isue t-.ioh r;trs as he r.'ay deem necessiry; r-orded. that th:s ae: shall remain : :o:ce d.ir:r.sr t'-e rontinuanoe of the , ; rcser.t war and for one year after e :ern::na:ion of the war by the :.'a:v.a : . n of the treaty of peaoe. cr at svii earher t: n-.e during the 5:d year as t.-.e president n:ay des-,rr.J des-,rr.J e: anvi. prov'.dt d. further, that : termination of this aot shall no; ifi-:l any aots done or any rigai or c:.:;itiOT L-ruin? or a-vrued pursu-ar.: pursu-ar.: to this a-t and during the tune this aci is in force. Absolute Authority. Sc-;t:on That in carrins: out the prose o: this act, the president Is a r.r.O"".ied. in such manner as he rray cee m:st .r-proi-rite. to co-"or co-"or I'or.sohdat e any exeeu-'j00:nrr exeeu-'j00:nrr issior.s. bureaus, agencies, h r;.ce or o:r.ce:. to transfer any du-3 du-3 or powers frrm one existinc de- 3 n -:nr, com n.iss ion. bureau, atren- 1 v, of.oe or ofruer t" another, to -'-r The personnel thereof or any rarfSL"- either y detail or assiErn-rr.rr.t. assiErn-rr.rr.t. tjth.er with the whole or arty 7.rt of tiie records and public property prop-erty belonging thereto, and to errploy ty executive order any additional aser.cy or agencies and to vest there-r there-r the peri arm a nee o: such function he may deem appropriate. Se-.-tion Z. Th.2t for ti:e purpose of "irryin? out ti:e provisions of this ! a t any moneys heretofore and hereafter here-after appropriated f'T the use of any s-cutive depart n:ent. commission. ":reau. agency, office or nffi-rer. shall ':e available fr the purt'Oses for "h it v us appropriated under the iirection of sJ'Uh other agency as r iv be d"reete i by the president hereunder to performi and execute said function. Section 4. Th.at durir.s: the time 'tis act is in fore. all restrictions :.i any existing law creatinE: any ex-i ex-i :utive derartm-: nt, commission, bureau, bu-reau, agency, of rice or officer, or tie-f.mnz tie-f.mnz the duties thereof, shall be :er.ed to be suspended to the extent ex-tent th.at they may be inconsistent "ith the exercise of the authority h-re Lonferrcd. Hearing in DetaiL Serretar:-' Baker's cross-examination ' "as beun by Senator T'eeks of Massa- r.usrtts, Republican, in connection with t.-; number of troops to be sent abroad t'is ;. ear. Trans;-rtation of fighting troops was tT.perariiy reduced. Secretary Baker fid in discussing tite sharping situation, tv the necessity of sending lareer en-?'-:.eering forces. He did not live with '"irr. detailed statistics regarding available ships and promised to supply it. i The shipping board and the war de-; de-; partment, Secretary EJaker said, are in . tenstant contact, exhaustively studying i j t.-.e shipping situation. General Bliss, he ' ra: tok the information abroad as a j r,'is of calculation in connection with 1 tr.eshi;ping situation. About 130.000 tons additional have recently been secured. , ,,The much-discussed editorial in the .tropo!itan Magazine, of which Colonel ) "xyelt was associate editor, attacking; tr.e "Aeartment's preparation to send! ':'-os to" ranee came up again. Sec-tar- Baker had replied to the editorial his first statement by saying the war tartment had done more than the mag-2--e contended it should. , Had No Information. j '"Did the editor have any information j '.Jf-"er than an ordinary citizen might J 'e had at that time?" asked Senator i . "Oh. no," said Mr. Baker, adding that I lr August, when the article appeared. 1 ' '.t I h.-u ,!,,,, ,..,(.!!,, Ih.lt Hi, ,,. ' ''M I- 1 1 .i 1 1 1 1 n !!;.::";;: " "... i '' l'l.,l II, ,, M,- ' ''' --'M -in, .l.-ii.uiM 1 I, r''i, ' "'"'I' ll ml ;m.l H..II , ,.inl.;,liml ""'l'-- S.-.,.,i. ,., ,-, MM '"" "' ,;"' ' Mr. H.iK,, -'"."W " ,""ks l" I..I.I iM-ai.l Hi it '""I'OIV I'M'.'.' t.U, .,.l ( , ,,.! Furnish Figures. S.'oivl.irv lUk.-r ! -.1.1 ho ,h, i,i ldi, " I'l;hi,-. iMit Ihoiulil I tio for,-,-. n, I UlVf I! K'll I.,H lllll I'.lllil. .' ll.il. -.'ll ! Uunli ,-,.imI.M' WVKh i-iMillilxnlLillv W1IM nj;,!!,.-. m,. I,, , nu.,. ,,f : :, ,-liii-, J :1,ui u, pni.i.nlon .-( riuhl- 11! tl'.K'p.-. S.-ll.ll.'l' rrks ;i.U,-, !,.., minis;"., linear lin-ear .lT.irlm.Mit h.,, ,il.,hl,.. (I,. i, .' l.l.l il'ii Ih.il it ...,, ;;n,ii.0 ,,,,s l'.nniy 1 Mr. lk,.,. ,,l Know .'vi.'tli, but (Iiotit;hl thut w.in nil un.i.M- .'.-t Mil. 1 1 p S.Mi.itor Wcks .iKi'.l if li,,. .I,...ii. ri'tMit (liiin,..! on tiri, xt .:... ,,i ,.. ,, "'' ''"S'. II.- ;..ml th.it !:,. h.,, h.'..i.l th:,l tl; tl-Tinaii M;it,Mii.'iitf. nt t'hi'.tito .l.'.-lru,t.,n hi Mihm, inn,' u,.,, 'MM' ,l,.,uf ., ,-l,-Ml(lttOtl5 HI,, 111 . V.titr; lr.t-1 oil lift lomnse. "Iil.l, mm, In tl,-itl't'iirontlj tl,-itl't'iirontlj ttivcix.-nl fKuros kIwh l.v Mih sl,i' wit iios- !.i;rllH-f. in 1.1,1. Mr. Rtkor roulj uol .nllcluen tit- k.mi-tor k.mi-tor oil tlio volnt. Wfor, f.i'nn.il 'lll In i:uropc, Mr. H;ik,'f .-tlil. an --hati.-me Muily of th. chipping situation w.u marlf. li ai rrvku ,-,1 " brCor he went ha.-k tlf. seoon.1 lln: to Hlteml Ihe ""'i'1"" "f tit fupiemn war i-ounoli. The se.'ret.it-- s,uj t!io war ,1,-vni tmeut h:id kept 111 i-!oes.t tou.-h wltli the shlppiiis board Hitrl the supreme xr ir ooutuil had tlie d.Ht on which to rely. Tonnage Prospect. "Is there nn- pro.vpe-'l of nioie tounne hei-omlrj imii.iWf nt an eailv ,.ue."' a.-ke. Senator Weeks. Oh. ,-.." Mr. H.iker oai.l. "I re.-.ill now i-at l:;,l.iVI lum .sddltioniil 1ms he-come he-come av.ul.iMe .luring the hit ton .!.ts." The vesjiSs eie w it iidi .1 wn from an-pus an-pus lines where thev hail leen roplacod by ne itial shlppii.s. Much of ii,e lomi'me orlsinsllr avKihihle for n. en and surplus had Wen diverted ' the h.irhor ,,,,,1 uis.iial proiecls shro.id. he khj, u-e purehane of al- tluery ahroad hart serve., to relieve ship-pine ship-pine somewhat. RUhnucn il,e ne.-essliv of transportniK raw nmierials for the KUlls .ad rvured in the final result. t-.a;nination of Seerelurv Baker was liuerrunted while nenators discuss.. 1 to. lnir into executive ses-sion to permit the seoretarv to furtnsh confidential Information. Informa-tion. The discussion was precipitated hy Senator Keed. who thoucht the commlt'-tee commlt'-tee was entitled to exact information of the number of men now In France and on other suh.iects. Wanted Open Session. Chairman Chamberlain ns well as Senators Sen-ators Hltcho-k and McKellar. favored an open session and to let the secrrtarv indicate whit cjueslious lie would rather answer m private. As Secretarv Baker's slatemeni on which he Is reins cress-examined cress-examined was made at an open hearing, senator HitchccKk said lie thought the commitiee would make a mistake in not examlmnc him at a similar hearing. ' I think the committee and the public are entitled to know where he prooosrs to set the tonnane to supple the men abroad." continued the Nebraska senator. sena-tor. "I think the secretarv oucht to be able to put these figures before us to back up l is, statement that lie expects to nave a million men over there this vear." "I think the whole question of 'ships O'jt-ht to be discussed In an executive session." said Secretarv Haker in rep'v to Chairman Chamberlain. who asked his views. The tonnage matter, he added, involve.) international arrangements and he suggested that he be permitted to prepare pre-pare a statement to show the present status. Objects to Disclosing Facts. "I don't think It is t.ecessarv f,,r the secretary to come here to disciose facts in order to justifv statements he had made." interrupted Senator Kirbv. "1 am opposed to it. 1 ihir.k tiie committee in executive session oustht to determine just how far it is ftoin? in this investication." Secretary Baker agreed that the committee com-mittee should have every available fat. includlnc confidential information. Senator Sen-ator Weeks said he wanted to develop Just what couid be done in getting men. munitions and other products abroad, but without disclosing confidential matter. The Massachusetts senator said, however, how-ever, he thought there was a "co-.d deal of camouflage about keeping Information from the enemy which is published in annual reports and otherwise." "I want to make a suggestion, if I may." Secretary Baker Interposed. "The misfortune for me. If I may call it such, in my first statement to the committee! lay in tiie fact that I attempted to give opinions of the broad general' situation as I saw it. when the Information lay In details that ought to have been gotten from the experts in direct charge or in statistics giving specific facts. I was attempting at-tempting to make a general survey. It was a misfortune for uie to do that. I think it belter to give tne committee specific spe-cific statements, and the committee Is entitied to that." Promises Detailed Statements. Secretary Baker proposed to have detailed de-tailed statements of information prepared at the department and submitted to the committee, and then if the committee desired de-sired to cross-examine him later regarding regard-ing the statements he would be glad to return. Senator Hitchcock asked If the secretary secre-tary would object to giving the committee commit-tee the basis for his opinion that he expected ex-pected a million men would be in France before fall. "Not in the least," said Mr. Baker. "I could have the committee go into the adjoining ad-joining room and give it to you In three seconds." Senator Hitchcock thought the Information Infor-mation should be given the same publicity pub-licity as his first statement. "The secretary conveyed to the coun-trv." coun-trv." said Senator Hitchcock, "information "informa-tion that I think was very unfortunate. Eid you consider shipping an important factor?" "Very" Important controlling," Mr. Baker "replied. "I was not relying wholly on the supply of American shipping." Senator Hitchcock asked how many ions of Amrrlrtin shipping rmiM be n-."u.UM n-."u.UM on h n.l Svrrtarv Maker stild ho oul.i not kiv. the- Information. Th Nc-1rtt?k;i Nc-1rtt?k;i yonator aid ho K'H-'in-d frinn tli tilppln; I'oanl h tatenlMl of rwallahlo A rnerl.-:! n tonn.o tn Nov inner SO. I hat (her wei-o j:' t-i-s of ;:,7L'l.S0ti dead-wiclit dead-wiclit fii'i., iin'ludlm? tankers n in) former for-mer C-TMi.m nnd AuMriau ship.-, all over l."i" tens. "Tli.it ua ' p'tind tnf.-?l at th dlx-po- i! of Ci.. 1 iitf,- 1 Slat--.'' .-aid Senator Sena-tor Ifit.-tu-ofk. adding that ' 'hiding p.i.-.-t r rhips. tankT! and other mm-trti'ii-f.irrvitiiT onlv itiout l.4"'.i'ivi ion- nas awiilable for supply anU lr;ins. porta t ion of t mop?. S.'naror 1 1 !i-tn-o"k n.kr.1 Pe.-retarv H.ilvt-r it lli.il taten;ent ronfortm-d to liis informal ton. h nd the e.'i etdj-y Id he couid no renirtiiher. "'It" ih it .st.ito:n.-nl If corre.-l. " how inanv i roon- i a n wi snpplv in Kurope persist r.j Sena tor 1 1! t c!n-ook. "1 ran t anwer that." paid i rotary Bakr. "It would depend on t'ie ha.sls Ot' ealeii!at!on." Senator H ! 1 1 Jv-ork said lie uiiderst(Mtd t hat !m.-: was five tons prr man. Sna-t-r Weeks said h t!unht It was fifty pounds per ir.ari per day. Beckman Protests, Sen.uor Kerk tti.hu lutorrupf e.l, protest -ifiii ncaint "et torts to drasj out of t h tfei.rot.iry, lndif tl- hy prohmi? questions. Informal fon w Idea wotiM he of value to the ei;--rn ." Senator llltehf-ork 5a id ho d:d not wlh to he mlsundiTi-tno-I, hut only deMred to find t!i ha sis of Mr. Baker's "assurnnee to ti:e rountry" tliat a million men rouid be transported to Fram-e riurlnar ItHS. "Vo:i said you ex pelted to ha e one , i:i::1:.-n in France In li'lS. Now, how ' wot: Id you supply t hem ?" he eont inned. Mr. linker re:u1 from his original statement state-ment t ha; he had said a million and a half troops would be available for shipment ship-ment in H'ls and that tiie prospect of forwarding them was not unpromif-inc." unpromif-inc." "Why do voii think It Is not unpromising?" unpromis-ing?" ins'.ste-l Senator Hitchcock. Scrftary Bakr replied tl.a t estimates made a? to available tonnage Indicated the possih:ii;y. When he had made tho Ptatement. Secretary Sec-retary Baker added, there was In his mind the eoivvjsions of the shipping hoard as to whit tonnasre It could pro-d1: pro-d1: e In 1!1 Tl-.er- were other fa rton h& to shipping, he addel. suh as e?5e,s in ron-s.n; lal trades or on domestic routes whica n.isht b re'ea.ei by sail-ins sail-ins siiips or neutra.! tonnape. "I am asking you for the has!? of your .xssnrane to the country that the pros-pert pros-pert was not uupromiftnc that we ould have a million men In France In IT-IV persisted Senator Hitchcock. "I am a nxio::s to tell you what s in mv mind." ar.s ere J Secretary Baker, asking asain th.at he he permitted to plain his statement as far aa pops', hie without disclosing military information. Determined by Bliss. Before Genera! Bliss went to Europe, he said, the subject was disenssed with members of the shipping board and others as to the extent to which the emergency f!eet corporation would supplement the existing tonnaae and the "extent that tonnase tlien available to America would need to be supplemented by international arrangement in order to carry out the allied al-lied programme. Secretary Baker t-atd he did not personally determine the question, ques-tion, but that it was done by General Bliss and others. Upon Senator Weekp HUirsestion the committee dropped tiie shipping question until the secretary could get information from his department to properly answer the questions. This will be furnished to the committee in executive session. Senator Kirby wanted to adjourn until un-til tomorrow, when an executive session would be held, but other senators objected ob-jected and the examination went on. Senator Weeks then asked Secretary Baker if he knew how many pairs of shoes were required per man In the British Brit-ish and FTenc-h armies. Mr. Baker did not. But he said he would obtain the information. The senator said he wanted to know in order to "determine if we are buying; more shoes than are necessary." Pro-Germans in Army. Senator Weeks said he had received a letter in which it was charged that many men In the army are of German sympathy sym-pathy and that many officers and men in conversations expressed pro-German sentiment. The writer of the letter, he said, cited an instance of an American officer being sent home from France by General Pershing Persh-ing for that reason. The senator eaid he had also heard of a chaplain who had been dismissed for similar reasons. Secretary Baker said he had received no information of such conditions, but would make an inqury. "I don't doubt that something of that sort exists,"' said the Massachusetts senator, sena-tor, "and T think we ought to make an example of someone." ' Senator Heed said it was unfair to question the secretary In a large auditorium audi-torium filled wdth spectators and impugning im-pugning that the army was reeking with treason. "Why should the question be asked at all?" he demanded. "I'm not responsible for calling the secretary sec-retary into a larger auditorium," Senator Sena-tor Weeks broke in. "I think this examination ex-amination should have been held as all others in the committee's own room. I have no desire to exploit anything in public." Suggests Adjournment. Senator Weeks suggested that the hearing hear-ing be adjourned until Mr. Baker could furnish specific information desired. "The secretary himself asked in a letter let-ter to the chairman," Senator New of Indiana. Republican, interrupted, "that the meeting be held in a large room where all senators and representatives who desired could attend. Many senators sena-tors objected and held it was unbecoming, unbecom-ing, and this larger room was in deference defer-ence to the secretary." Senator Reed said he was somewhat inclined to the view that it would be better bet-ter to put "all our cards on the table." "It might be well." he said, "to say we have got so many men and so many guns and so many ships, and we are going to be at your throat at a certain time: but that is not the way we are proceeding." Senator Frelinghuyscn interrupted and Senator Reed yielded. T want to ask a question which I hope will pas. the censor," Senator Frc- linghuvsen, with his eyes fixed on Senator Sena-tor Rpd. A tilt fodowed. in which Senator Red declarpil h had not been crying to "censor" "cen-sor" the meeting. Senator Fr-Minhuysen turned to Secre-t: Secre-t: - K Ba kcr vvit h the stat en tent that the IMinient t.f .n.ll -j.l orric. ru found n; li tf.Mit. I m i r In t!n pioi.-, Hon nt tin-, men in the c.iiiiiiH ll .al.t Suiroit (o ri'l il i had sl.l, .1 1 1 1 Die n I 1 1 a I ho 1..Im-. autli.Tlt v lo draw I In puld"' hfalfh .-.'ivl-'e. Into the. rtitnp ti 1 1 m I h m "lias ih.il 1 1 1 t hriMi plw-n any inn-Mdei inn-Mdei a (Ion "" lit- Hulwd. Sfi-ietaM F i i h -r paid the i i. t u n In e ml - ll.MIM ..f Ih,' AllltTl.'HIl p'lhllr ll.-.lttll .ifnO- . lal Ion h id I" "ii ido 1 u it h t iir a ppi - il i( t he Mimrniii K' lieral nt I lie at in V ,i nd id ' Th.ai vmi think ihal w..i have Ihe heallh of tli.' in-m III liand.'" "aid Sena lor Fi id I ui; In i rt n. -r " ' I'o miii pe,-t (o kr.-p sol.ller-i tn lllO f-ouihern ramps during Ihe runniirr?" "I can! antovi-r." the :-e..-taiy replied. re-plied. It derti-ud.-d much upon tin- iiMur of tiie Miiniii.-r M-ath.T. lie r.ild. If It wil coin a I h M ry 8S frvn"e a the ullilei. he ..ald. II would he li e a l v to mow .-"II of t! 'imp Slaleinents n 1 1 1 1 l hti t ed lo Lord Norlh-i Norlh-i 11 ft.-, In k' pi epa rill tons wrn lieln mad. In America for ral.-dmj an ann1-. Iitlt lUMe WHS Indus' done to pioVlde for Its I raiispurl h ( toil He!of4 lln oeean, Wflie fHd liV S'-n.lt 'f Illlehenrk. Seereta -- HaUer Haul h had not heard of the statement and could not remember remem-ber If the silhlect htid he. mi i I If'-'UfiHcd III confeinnn wi:h lvid N'i i hi 11 ffe. Artillery Question. I 'e.-l,i iMnp that "cverv txulv knows hout half o ihe ne ii, both off!. -et-.i and fiillfed men. Ill tlu camps hao never been ti ained with m.'U'hlne bums or arnllerv," Senator McK'dlsr Asked 1 lift w-'relaiy K hr ihouiihi it wis to hend to l-'iamti tin -traln.-d nin Sf" iri;irv Baker replied thai many n i 1 1 1 lr r of flee i s were hiln 1 1 it luM In Friiiicf at a school t urned over by thu French, and i ha t It took more tl me to trnln artillerymen than offh-u"V. "Thi plan of the department." the per-retary per-retary added. "In to bi e ns much training train-ing In thl.H eonntry as pohhihle hv eon -ceiitrutlna artilh-ry HUiudi-f In unlit llk'-lle.t llk'-lle.t to ya first to Frame, hut In no chsp for them id he ut-ed In eonihat until un-til t iieir t rai n!n !f omplet .-, on f he other side. Therefor do not tidnk tl www Ke (o fi-nd o er thoso w ho me not C mph'lely iraln.-d." "Is it unwise to semi men not trained at. all, men who ha ie newr -e. n ar-nrtlll-rx' or ina-dilnn guns'.'" affk'd Senator Sena-tor McKellar. stating a major had mid him that at his camp only tiie .omtn ind-Ir.g ind-Ir.g general had cwu h.-.-ii a slv-nn h gun. Can Be Trained in France. "Ves, I think that it would he. rlcht; that 1. I do not think It would he rik'ht to send uritraiiud men Into .ombat. but I would not In-yitaie if i he lie .-sMty shoul.J arle. to s( nd raw re. -nuts to Frari'-e to be trained there and adequately adequate-ly trained. If lii-mral 'ti-liin thou-ht it tli wlhcsi thin to do. They can be t rai ned In Fra m e as b ell n h--re. " Senator M Kellar asserted arid Secretarv Secre-tarv I'aker admitted that training abroad would com more. Sena tot iteed HiigL'eted that pliortn v'e of shi; pmg miBh t make it wi. to s-md men nt ro.-s to he trained without holding hold-ing them In i his count ry for their training. train-ing. "GeneraJ Pershing." SV'Tetary Raker explaineil. "know exactly w ha t 1p needed need-ed to make a finished fo Idler f-T tills kind of warfare. He sends uk his prmr-I prmr-I i ty schedules w hether for shipment or artillery, ar-tillery, infantry, winal corps or other , arms of the s rvi e. It depends on the i leiicth of time he wants Uiem to have additional tratnintr." Senator McKellar said Surgeon General Gen-eral Joras had test ified t hat Secretary Kiker had directed that cantonment be cotnplete'l before -hospUa Is wer finished. "Why did you do that'.'" demanded the senator. I "I never gave any order on that sub-j J c t , nor do I vr all any divergence of j opinion between the surgeon general and m self," replied t he secretary. Asks for Details. Senator McKellar asked for details as to tiie amount of artilh-ry furnished to the training camps in thin country whi-'h Mr. Faker asrreed to h apply in mil. 1 (e r-ad a brief stai-ment showing that m-tional m-tional guard artillery brigades hae hi-en Jo per cent equipped with three-inch guns and that na'.lonal army r.mtonments hive bt-en supplied with from one to six Iwt-trries Iwt-trries each. Fvery howitzer regiment has at least two 4.7 guns for practice-. Pec ret ar" Raker agreed that more guns were necessary for -fficier.t tra ining. Senator McKellar then took up the order or-der forbidding pu hi tent ion of army contracts. con-tracts. Mr. Raker explained that the only object was to prevent publication of lists of plants making war supplies as military men feared "orguniztd campaigns cam-paigns of sabotage." "I am perfectly willing to concede.' he paid, "that the order has lost itfi significance. signi-ficance. We have been oversensitive. I entirely share your view that the utmost ut-most publicity should be given." Senator Wads worth asked Mr. Raker to explain the functions of Edward R. Stettiniuti, recently appointed survevor genera of war department supply. Sir. Baker said he had told Mr. Stettinius that his "functions were to grow" and i that the theory was to bring the needs ! of the five purchasing bureaus before ! Mr. Stettinius, so he might review them and straighten out conflicting needs. Would Not Hesitate. "I won't hesitate to come to congress I for legislation as Boon as it is apparent j tiiat it Is necessary," Secretary Baiter added. "Have you changed your views regarding regard-ing the minuter of munitions bill?" asked Senator Weeks. "Discussion of a minister of munitions t difficult unless we know just what Is meant," the secretary replied. "I think i we .have now an agency ihat correlates all the purchases of the war department." I This ag-ency included shluping, he added, add-ed, saying he did not think It would be iip'''.s.irv "lo wrench out" tho t-yetfyn now iihf'd whirh would result, hou M aiKh a itKa.s'jre b p.TK"J. Tlui I Dauhd Willard and Erniard Tin ru.-h of tiie w.ir hidiiH tries board ha'l "t m i fw-d Hironxly" In favor u centra 1-l.ffj 1-l.ffj piirchaini; power was cited by t-rna-i.r Mi-KclUr. "I 'ou t you think it Ih time we should lint to i ln-fe men uf experience'.'" he "I think tiie Jlffi--ully of thf board has not bot-n laklns power," S-retary Baker rnll'-'l, "but lark of fajilitlea to do all i lit- t Inn t,r it has b:t;n gradually Preparing Prepar-ing lt.-.-lf to do." "So far as 1 know there Ib no dlf'er-rn- e b-i wt-m th-ni and me. All of us have changed our minds constantly- "But, he ad. led: Would Not Start Over Again. ".Vfthinff couid be more unfortunate than to start all over acraln with a centralized cen-tralized purchasing aKency outside of the department." S-iMtor MrKfllar and others hurriedly broke in virh Matements that surh was n"t t he purpuesc. "Thp purpose is to use all established 8t,'en-jes not chaneini? them at ail, but merely putting them all under one central cen-tral authority," paid Senator M-Kellar. "Isn't it true that Mr. Stettinius practically prac-tically is a dire- tor of munitions todav In the war department?" asked Senator Frllnuhuysen. "A little more than that," Secretary Baker replied. "Be-auFe the munitions dire tor under the English system does not deal with the variety of tilings that Mr. stettinus rioen." Se.-retarv Baker added that the war industries board is not a purchasing apen-y, but rather a production agency. "Why don't ynu put Mr. Stettinius "at the head of the council of national de-ferife de-ferife and the war industries war boa rd and iimke him, in eMect. director of munition;-?" asked Senator FTelimrhuysen. "There Is no oc-iasinn for the intervention inter-vention of a new body," replied Mr. Baker. Problem of War Industries. The problem of the war industries, Mr. Baker added was not only to determine priori i y between the government departments, depart-ments, but also to distribute orders so ns to dislocate industry as little as pos-&ib!e. pos-&ib!e. "Should you not have another depart- : ment to act as a clearing house, headed by a business man and direct all purchases?" pur-chases?" persisted Senator Krelinghuy- ; son. i "No." insisted Mr. Baker. "I think I that would be a mistake." Senator Weeks asked if it were shown j that a majority of business men called to aid the government were of the opinion opin-ion that legislation lor centralizing a munition? mu-nition? director was necessary, would the secretary change his attitude. "But I agree with them," declared the secreta ry. "But you are not doing that," said Senator Weeks. "I think we are." said the secretary-'I secretary-'I can't find a single business man of any standing who does not agree that the proposition provided for in the munitions mu-nitions director bill should be adopted," continued Senator Weeks. ; Did Not Indorse Bill. "My memory is that these gentlemen ! did not indorse this bill." declared Sen- , ator Beckham, Democrat of Kentucky, i referring to the testimony given before the committee by civilian members of the ' various war boards. ; "They did express the idea that there! should be some centralization of power in purchasing," he added. "Some thought : that the reorganization of the war de- j part ment would meet the situation." "They said they thought the war de- i partment plan was an improvement," Insisted In-sisted Senator Weeks. With that the committee adjourned until an executive session tomorrow morning, when it will examine Major-General Major-General Wheeler on supplies of explosives. explo-sives. ' After Secretary Baker submits his statistics sta-tistics another public hearing may be arranged. |