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Show mam o mmmmmtammmmmmmmx peitthe time near the dour and that the crowd In the place prevented him from distinctly s'elng the fixtures. He told alxo of being accosted by a Mr. Lambvrt and Drlg Bowmau and of talking with these two men. He could not recall seeing any money or any chips change hands. Cross-examination was waived oy the defense and the executive made way for Rev. Mr. Elderkln. who came forward, raised bis hand methodically for the oath and took the witness chair. The minister reviewed the trip made, to the various gambling houses. He told of the crowded room and of the different devices which he saw with all the vividness that he might use In picturing the scene In the Temple Tem-ple of Jerusalem when Christ drove from the place the money changers. In the vernacular of the gamblers themselves, he graphically described a roulette wheel and a faro bank. He. too, told of the vertical wheel on the wall, but his knowledge of games did not go far enough to tell the technical name of the device. "I nske Mr. Bowman about this wheel for I had never seen one like it," he said, "and he told me it was Just a wheel. Mr. Glasmann asked me to play n dollar at this game as evidence, but I didn't happen to have a dollar with me. Another thing I knew If I'd put a quarter on the blooming thing they'd have me sent to the pen , "Did you see others playing the game"" asked the prosecution "Yes, I saw people playing the game I saw one man place a silver dollar on the turn of the wheel and Jose It." Mr. Elderkln was interrupted at times by the defense for usln such terms as 'I think" and "I suppose'' and was cautioned to make his answers an-swers more direct and positive. "On the night of the raid. Mr. Elderkln. El-derkln. did you see or talk with any of the defendants?" was asked. "On that ulht.I talked with the K M1MEJB m 1 ' ! Smiths and with Drlg Bowman. Ouii of them asked me why 1 did not get after James plngree and David Ec-, cles, the three ply criminals." In referring to the men in this way it was inferred by the hearers In the j court room that the question of polygamy was to bo brought Into the examination, but the testimony continued without with-out further reference to the subject. "The gamblers told me that I could not reform the gamblers in Ogden; that I could not reform Mr. Smith or Mr. Bowman. I told them that I did not care a fig if I couldn't; that I Intended In-tended to keep up the light against the vice. In this city as long as I remained re-mained in the town. They told me that I had belter be preaching to young girls and let gambling alcje. Finally J. H. Smith said to me, 'This is my place and you get out of here.' I left as he ordered." When the prosecution finished with the witness it was so near the noon j hour that the defense stated that they ' did not desire to begin the cross-examination until the ne:rt session of the heating. 1 F. A. Mattson, a contractor, was called to the stand and examined by j the prosecution, but proved a most reluctant re-luctant witness and his replies were all ohvloirVly evasive. Attorney De-vlne De-vlne plied the witness n!th Interrogations Interroga-tions and vainly endeavored to wrench from the man some information of a damaging character to the defendant, defend-ant, but was only partly successful. Mattson swore that he could not tell one card from another, despite the fact that he had visit"- !re supposed gambl.ng hnll on various occasions, and when In Ma ho and Nevada had clone some gambling The defense did not question Mr. Mattson. With the coifrlnslon of his testimony, testi-mony, the court was adjourned tin 1 1 1 Monday morning, when the cross-examination of Rev. Mr. Elderkln will he taken up. INTEREST SN THE GAMBUNG CASES: Judge Murphy's Court Crowded With Spectators, Eager to Hear the Testimony Elderkin, Scowcroft and Others on the Witness Stand City Attorney is Probing for More Evidence. feel certain that one wa3 given lor the other " This answer was objected to by tha attorney doing the questioning, but was permitted to pass. "How many chips, were exchanged?" exchang-ed?" "About half a dozen." "How much money was given by the other man?" "1 don t know the amount, but it was silver money." "In this dice game that you say you saw, Mr. Scowcrolt, how many dice were used?" . "I can't say positively whether there were two dice or three of them. I am sure it was cither two or three. ' The witness told Ot seeing the dimes placed on the table and taken in by the man behind the table, but was confused by the interrogator wnen questioned as to how he knew that the money was lost on tho throw of the cubes. The question as to whether the houso or the player wou on the throw of 'seven'' was too technical for Mr. Stowcrolt to comprehend "Mr. Scowcroft. are you interested in the management of the Orpheum theatre?" asked the attorney for the defense In frigid tones, searching the witness for a show of embarrassment cr a tremor of uneasiness. 'I am not," Mr. Scowcroft answer-1 answer-1 cd with barely noticablc hesitation. "My brother is interested iu the place." "Have you taken any steps to stop tho operation of Sunday theaters in Cgderr, Mr. Scowcroil? ' asked the attorney, at-torney, with bitter sarcasm. This question was strenuously objected ob-jected to by Attorney DeYlne and the court sustained the objection. .Mayor Glasmann. who had entered Ihe court room during the examination examina-tion of Mr. Scowcroft, was calb-.l to the stand by Attorney DeYine The executive was not spared by th.-prosecuting th.-prosecuting counsel but lulle ci .1 il l inite nature was gleaued I y bi. les- J tlmouy. Mr. Glasmnnn told ri tn-- tilp to the Elephant room with the I Betterment League reform : b .: ; stated that he diJ not viit " place to gather testimony f. r ' -witness stand and for that rer - n i I not pay as close attention n .. things that he saw as he ml.!.; .iv-tione .iv-tione under other conditions. The mayor stated that "J walk entirely thiou;ii 1 1 i - - V'.n. 1 ' The hearing of John Smith and E. A. Smith, on the charge of conducting conduct-ing a gambling house on Twenty-linh Twenty-linh street, was beguu this morning before JuJge Murphy of the municipal court and the throng of spectators which nearly bulged the walls of the court room and corridors proved that even a greater interest Is being taken tak-en by the public In the present case than the one just completed The municipal judge has not yet rendered his decision in (he case against tho alleged proprietors of the Turf gambl- ing hall and It seems probable that j he will not do so until the comple- j Hon of the present hearing of the j Elephant place proprietors. 1 As in the opening day of the Turf I case, the Rev. N. S. Elderkin proved the mosi important witness for the city, although Heber Scowcroft of 1 the Bettermit Ix-ague was more pos- I Itlve Iu his testimony this morning than In the testimony which he delivered de-livered In the heaiing of Johnson, Watt and Tryee. Mr.. Scowcroft, the wholesale merchant, mer-chant, was the llrst witness to take the bland and he told of the visit of tho (Betterment league leaders to the Elephant rooms on the night of August 3 the trip In which they vcre accompanied by the mayor and others. He said that the room was occupied by gaming tables, mentioning mention-ing a roulette wheel, faro bank, crap game and auother wheel which ho described as havlug paper money attached at-tached to it. Attorney Devlne showed that he Intends In-tends to make even, a harder fight for conviction In the present case than in the former one. His pinning of the witnesses down to positive btntements, which was not evident in the Turf case, was clearly displayed from the start and Uie Scowcroft examination at times bordered on the sweating process ot a "third degree" inquisition. The witness told of the crap table on which he said th'at he saw a man place two dimes which were raked in ty the man In charge lie said that there were about two hundred men in the room ;uid that he taw chips and money exchanged "Did yon see either of the defendants defend-ants In the room on the night that jou visited the place?" asked Attorney Attor-ney Devlne , "I saw John Smith down stairs as w entered Ihe place." The cross examination stnitcd with Attorney Horn afl.lng the wituegs where he had seen chips exchanged for money. "At the faro (able," answered Mr. Scowcroft, promptly. "How do you know that one was a consideration for the other bow-do bow-do you know that (be chips were given giv-en for the money?" "I saw the exchange made an 1 I |