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Show ' 4 T . t '" r , - . '' r 'r j tfiglWW-- T 3 - - danian Jerusalem is irrevocable? A. There is no annexation. It's the wrong word, lerusalem was a united city for 4000 years. It was divided by an unfortunate war in 1948, and remained divided for 19 years. Now history has taken its normal course again. That is what I said in 1967, and I stand by that: Jerusalem will remain undivided. Q. What I would like to know from you is whether any Israeli government willing to give back Jerusalem could remain in power? A. No, I don't think so. I don't think that any Israeli government that would give back Jerusalem could stand. Q. In the meantime, then, Israel is going ahead with its building projects, which, in the words of Israel's Housing Minister, Ze'ev Sharef, aims at turning all of Jerusalem into "a Zionist exhibition" . . . A. Look, before you go on, this was Mr. Sharef's remark, not mine. I think it is very unfortunate that he said this. People should not talk so much. I, too, am trying to restrict myself to less talking. The city's character A Jerusalem panorama. In foreground, some of in new housing units that Israel has constructed Jordanian Jerusalem. In the upper left cornet was mayor of just Jewish or west JeruWar he became salem; after the mayor of all Jerusalem.) Six-D- Anger and admiration Known to Israelis as a bitzoist, a performer, Koliek has aroused anger and admiration from both Jews and Arabs alike. "He is capable of calling you at 4 a.m. and telling you to get to work, that something has to be done," recalls the 5000 captured is "Ammu- - nition Hill," from which Jordan's forces fired on Israeli y War. "Now the Jordanians Jerusalem (rear) in the will never be able to come back there," says Mayor Koliek. Six-Da- Mayor Koliek, who in fluent English now being one of his assistants. "He can be stubborn and arrogant. have seen him throw ashtrays across the room and answered vital questions raised about Jerusalem: have seen him embarrass the hell out of people. But, even with all this, I respect and even love him. He has done more for Jerusalem than any other Israeli, and also, more than anyone else, he is the man who knows this city the man who must be listened to." Following, then, is an interview wth Q. On June 28, 1967 just three weeks after Israel captured the Jordanian part of Jerusalem the Israeli parliament passed legislation which brought all of Jerusalem "under Israeli law." You, Mr. Koliek, stated at the time that "Jerusalem will never again be divided." Does this mean that annexation of Jor- - I I welfare Here is a scene at one of the joint Arab-lsrae- li centers which were established alter the 1967 war. Cooperation between the two sides is slow but growing. Arab and Israeli school health workers get together and exchange notes on mutual problems this year for the first time. Arab and Jewish youth also meet in sports. Q. Let me ask then, whether there is justification in the Arab charge that Israel is attempting to change the character of the city to bring about a "Judai-zatio- n of Jerusalem?" A. If somebody says we are Judaizing Jerusalem, he overlooks the fact that this was done by a fellow called David 3000 years ago. Everything in this city is Jewish. All the Arab names of all the various districts are Biblical names. Wherever you step it's a Jewish city. Now, if you ask me if we aren't changing the character of the city by putting up housing projects in eastern Jerusalem, I must first tell you that we are financing housing for Arabs, too. And not only housing, but electricity, running water and sewage more than they ever had under the Jordanians. If you look at our Master Plan for Jerusalem you will see that in 40 years when lerusalem will have some 500,000 inhabitants the combined percentage of Arabs and Chrishans will remain the same as it is today, roughly 30 percent. So, in these respects, how can anyone say we are Judaizing Jerusalem? This is a mixed city, a kind of mosaic. Each group will continue to have its own culture; its own way of life. Jews will live in their neighborhoods, Arabs in theirs. This is by choice. Arabs want to live around their own schools, their own restaurants- they don't want to move into some place where their neighbors have different ways. That's the way we are here not some kind of indiscriminate melting pot, but a place where each group goes on living its own life. Q. Within this context of separate com- - continued 5 |
