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Show SHE HEARD "BAD STORIES AT THE DINNERS WHITE GAVE mother for the tript" v "No." "How much was the Cook's letter of credit!" "About $500 I think." "Didn't you know that your mother was left in such need in London that she had to go to live with a chambermaid chamber-maid in a hotel!" "That is entirely untrue," said Mrs. Thaw, with a stamp of her foot. "Did your mother ever tell you sot" Mr. Jerome was reading from the typewritten statement made to him by Mrs. Holman. , "She did not tell me," said the witness. wit-ness. "Did you ever hear of itt" "Yes, but it was not true.", "Thaw's valet, Bedord, was supposed sup-posed to look out for her, wasn't hel" Mr. Delmas objected to this and Jerome Jer-ome withdrew' the question. "Do you know that about that time a cablegram was sent to Stanford White about your mother!'.' asked Mr. Jerome of the witness. , "Yes." "Did not ' this cablegram request Stanford White to use his influence with the American Embassy in London, to keepyour mother from' raising-a fuss and interfering with your going on with Thaw!" "It was not the American Embassy, but a man," said Mrs. Thaw. "No." "Were yon intoxicated!" "No." "Did you have to be assisted out of Sector's! " "No, sir." "Where did you go after leaving Rector's!" "To an apartment house somewhere off Central Park West." "Where were you living then!" "At the Audubon." . Money Came From White. "Were you then receiving money from Stanford White!" "Not then." "Didn't White give you a letter of credit for use on your trip to Europe and wasn't some of that left!" "My mother got that." "Which apartment was it that you went to!" "Mr. Thaw's." "Did vou remain all night." "Yes.'1' "When did you return home!" "Next day.'' "Did you have any quarrel with White about that!" "No." "When did you move to. the Grand hotel!"- . "I think jt was a Tew days later "What name did you register!" "I did not register." "Were you alone!" "My maid was there. Mr. Thaw wss in the same hotel." "Where were your rooms!" "On the second floor." "Where were Thaw's rooms!" "On the same floor." "Dfd they connect with yours!" "Yes." "During the time you were living at the Grand hotel did you ever spend a night at the York hotel!" ?'Yes." "Alone!" i yea. " "Did some one take you to that hotel!" ho-tel!" "Yes." "Did you go to dinner and the theater the-ater with him!" ..... "What do you mean by nim!" "The person who took you to the hotel." . "That Person a Female." "The person who took me there was a female." "Who!" "You have letters from her!" i Yen. ' ' "Wili you produce them!" "Yes.'' Mrs. Thaw then told of going to various lunches and suppers at the Twenty-fourth street house and to the Madison Square tower room. She often went alone in a carriage, trusting trust-ing to White's promise that there would be others present. She did not go often to the Twenty-fourth street house, White having largely abandoned that place because, ne told her actresses who had been there told about it "all over town." ' "Were there improprieties at these luncheons and suppers!" asked Mr. Jerome. "I don't know anvthing very bad. There were some stories told." "Looking back a little, now, do you remember any improprieties!" "None Seems Pleasant," ; "Looking back a litle now, none of it seems pleasant. " 'Was their eondnct worse than Miss Winchester's cake walk in the 'Dead Kat!" "I never saw Miss Winchester do a cake walk in the 'Dead Rat.' You are mistaken about that." '4'4Was it in the cafe Paris!" "Yes, she was a professional dancer." "Was the dance Indecent!" "I would not make such a broad statement as that. I don't think it would have been allowed on the stsge." 'Was Stanford White present at all theparties you attended in 1902 and . "Not all of them." Mrs. Thaw told of going to a supper as the guest of Frances Belmont. "She was an actress!" asked Mr. Jerome. We,!v Bhe 2?M on th tee," replied re-plied Mrs. Thaw. " "She was in 'Florodora,' " Mrs. Thaw said that on her nine-t?entiU,blrthdaJ'' nine-t?entiU,blrthdaJ'' December 25, 1903, Mr. White was to give a supper for her at the tower room. White went to the Madison Square theater, where she was playing, the night before, but she quarreled with him and he went away. Later h returned, but she had not yet decided to go with him. He went away again, and later Thaw came to the stage door for ber. ''He was in'an automobile!" asked Mr. Jerome. "No, I think it was a carriage." "Are you sure!" "No, but I think so." "Was there anyone else in the carnage!" car-nage!" "Yes, one man and one woman." '. NEW YORK,' Feb. 22. In continuing her testimony yesterday afternoon, Mrs. Thaw told of going to several parties with Stanford White after her return from Europe in 1903. "Was there anything improper!" "At one he treated a girl just as he treated-me. He patted her on the head and said: 'This little girl must have just one glass of wine, and must go home early to her mother.' ' "Do you know that Stanford White ever harmed that girl in any way!" "No, I am only saying what X saw. It was the same bluff." ' . iV "How long had yon been in the chorus before that experience with White!" "Three months." , - "And for three months you were daily in dressing rooms with the other girls, weren't you!" "I was in a room with three girls at first, and then with six." "You heard their current talk, didn t T0"I don't know that I did." "You beard men upon the stage talk, didn't you!" "YesJ" ! "Well, it wasn't a prayer meeting upon the stage, was it!' " Mf. Delmas objected to this as improper, im-proper, In answer to ' a request for an ex- Elanation of her statements that it was tanford White's personality that caused a softening of her anger, and, her writing to hhn from Boulogne, Mrs. j Thaw said: Whit a "Grand Man." "Outside that one awful thing, Stan-. Stan-. ford White was a-very grand man. He was very good to me and very kind, i When I "told Mr. Thaw, this he said it only made White more dangerous. Before Be-fore the Twenty-fourth street incident he hsd never made love to me. Every one liked bim and no one would believe these things until , they really found out, and then they said they were sorry.'' sor-ry.'' Mr. Jerome next asked regarding the I wine she had drank, up to that time. i . "Then you didn't intend for the jury to assume when yon said it tasted bitter that it differed from any other champagne you had tested!" ' "On, I did not intend that. It was not particularly different, it all tasted bitter to me. It made me dizzy and caused my ears to thump." Mrs. Thaw said that after the occurrence occur-rence in the 24th street houe, she saw . Mr. White almost every night until she went to school in the fall of 1902. After Af-ter January J902t she refused to v go anywhere alone with him. although he ! continually urged her to do so. ' "At different times during 1901 and 1902, you were at parties in the studios ; and met many different men and wo men!" "Yes." "Did you ever see any improprieties at any of these parties!" ' u yes. " ' . "What!" ' "Well, they told a lot of stories." . "Did Stanford White tell any of the stories!" ' ' Yes. " "Were they obscene!" "Yes." '"Were any women there!" "Yes." " Did' tbey tell stories! ' ' "One had too much-wine and told some." Jerome wanted the nams, and Mrs. Thaw whispered it to him. Told "Bad Stories." "Ah,'? he exclaimed, she was the : same woman to whom two years later rou were writing letters from Pas, ' telling her about the ;Dead Rat!' "Yes." N . .,, "How long did you know ber!" "Until just before my marriage." ( "When vour friendship broke up!' "I woufd not fall it friendship." "You corresponded, didn't you, with this lewd person!" i "I didn't say lewd person. I said the stories were bad." , S "Mv maid." , "Did you go to the theater with, a man!" "Yes." "Did he go home with you!" "He took me back to the hotel." Mr. Jerome then took up the 1903 trip in Europe. Mrs. Thaw said that she, her mother and Thaw visited Paris and Boulogne and then went to London. Lon-don. Then there was a quarrel, and Mrs. Nesbit remained in Lendon while the witness and Thaw made a long trip through Europe. Mrs. Thaw's description descrip-tion of the places visited was somewhat meager. At one time she remembered a m pretty mountain" and at another time they visited a town "where I got some cheese that was very good." "While you were in. Austria did you spend some time in an old castle that Mr. Thaw hired!" , , , "Yes, about thTee weeks. ' "While you were traveling with Thaw did you receive a letter from Abe Hummel!" ,, "I don't think so." '"From your mother!" "No." . "At that time did vou not have a letter of credit from White!" , "To what letter do you refer!" queried Mrs. Thaw. "Any letter of credit from Stanford White." ssid Mr. Jerome. "I nad one from Cook's." "Stanford White gave it'to you, didn't he!" ' "Yes, but I had given. the letter to Mr. Thaw." "Where was your mother all this time!" "In London." "Who told yon so!" , , "Mr. Thaw.' Her Mother Not In Need. " "When you went abroad in 1903, did you tell White that Thaw was advancing ad-vancing the money to you and your . , - Thaw Feared White. A man named Bom&n, doorkeeper at the theater, who testified early in the trial, said that White returned to the theater later, and flouriahinff a revolver threatened to kill Thaw, 2nd alao said Thaw arrived in an electric automobile and waa- alone. "Was there a man named Kennedy standing outside the stage door that night with Bomanl" asked Mr. Jerome. "I never heard of any Kennedy " "Hadn't Thaw toldyou he employed two detectives because of Whitef" "No." "You went to Rector's from the theater the-ater that night! '.' "Yes." "And left there about 4 a. m.f' "I don't know what time it waa" "Had there been much wine drunk t" "Yes." "At that time it was your custom to drink considerable wine at vour meals!" , "Yes, at that time, in 1&03.''" -"Did Thaw sometimes drink a good deal!" "Yes."- "After leaving Rector's, didn't you go to a house in West Twenty-seventh street!" . "No." 4'When you came out of the Twenty-seventh street house, didn't you see Kennedy and the other man standing outside!" "I have already told you we did not go to any Twenty-seventh street house, so how could I see anybody touring out!" "Well, were you in such a condition that your memory was clouded!" ' i ( , |