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Show o;siEoMiiG:Aic::o:c?;cv . -.HAVE 'A LIVELY KSIGfl Hearing: Before Legislative Hcaltli Ccmmittec . De-. De-. ' velops Warm Exchange of Compliments. ; The second battle In the fight between the osteopaths who want a separate board of examiners and the "regular" physicians who Insist that the osteopaths osteo-paths shall undergo the same examination examina-tion as other schools of! medicine do, was waged this , morning before the Senate Committee on Public Health. No other-session" of a committee has thus far attracted so large a number of professional ad representative men . ' and there were also present many spelt ' tators from the laity -who followed the j arguments for and against the measure ! with keen Interest. Many Surgeons There. Physicians and surpeons of every school practicing In the city were out in force as were the osteopaths who had brought with them persons who " were ready to speak from experience " I r - " process by which beef steak becomes nerve and muscle. . . j . . There la not one physician in 1000 who can tell" me the chenical formula of morphine, a drug -which he' uses every day. Medicine an exact science! . Oh, i no. . If it were there would not be the vast army of incurables that exists today to-day -and from the ranks of which os-. teopathy has in many cases' demonstrated demon-strated its. success and power, Ot yes, the profession laugh at us and call us ignorant, but if the crutches , that Dr. Still, the founder of our echool, were piled up. they would make the-thousands , at Londres insignificant. They call us -quacks, but -many of us are graduates of regular schools of medicine, medi-cine, - .... "We left the practice for osteopathy; something better, more progressiie. The physicians say to us, "Come and pass our examination,' and we go and they turn us down. That is historv. then we have to tight them through the courts to get the credit we are entitled to.. That is history, too. - ' Recognized in Seventeen States. "We have been recognized in seventeen seven-teen different States., .ye can, do things that you Can't do. s "We do 'do things that you can't dd. -These doctors who get up here and declare that this bill is objectionable haven't read it; they don't know -what its features are, they don't know what our methods of practice prac-tice are. they 6ay we ttre ignorant, they are ignorant of what they are talking about." . Dr. Young declared that with the exception ex-ception of materia medica. osteopaths qualified in all other lines of medical research, lncluding-eurgery the same as physicians from any regular school, and insisted that the course. of. study was Just aa thorough as that in any medical school. He answered th'e statement regarding re-garding the treatment of -contagious diseases by declaring that In Missouri last year osteopaths treated 600 cases of smallpox in an epidemic end lost only two cases. " ". ' Replies to Questions. He .replied to a large number of questions ques-tions put by the physicians present -and by the member of the committee, seemingly never at a loss for an explanation. expla-nation. At 12:30 (he committee, deciding ,to hold another session at a date to be announced an-nounced later. . as to the benefits to be derived from medicineless method of treatment, for which, however, there was not time during the session of the committee. Arguments on both sides of the question ques-tion were under high pressure and at corresponding temperature during much of the session ajid several times got rather close to the "danger" line. Made an Earnest Flea. Dr.' Young,. who is here from Kirks-ville. Kirks-ville. Mo., as the special representative, of ostvopathy, made an earnest plea for the mt-asure, in the course of which he handed the general medical profession some hard knocks. He charged that the op.position to his school came through, prejudice, "with which the history his-tory of '.medicine is redolent." He declared de-clared thiit the science of medicine was without exactness and alleged that no physician ould tell with certainty how a drug would act on the human system. He recited instances of cures where osteopathy had succeeded where medicine medi-cine had failed, and asserted that physicians phy-sicians of regular schools were absolutely abso-lutely Ignorant of its simplest principles and were therefore not competent to Judge. He wound up his indictment of the "regulars" by the unqualified statement state-ment that wherever and whenever an osteopath had appeared before a board of examiners composed of physicians froi"o other schools, unfsfir treatment had followed and the candidate had been turned down, no matter what his standi.ng was. Records Are Open. This roused the ire of members of the State Board of Medical Examiners who were present, and they as wii?i one voice amrnwa mai ine recoras or osteopaths os-teopaths in Utah who had attempted to pass in Cinatomy and failed were open to inspection so that all might see that the marking of papers was Ju?t in all cas.3. Then Dr. Whltnfey demanded: '- ' "Would you, Ir. Young, 'throw down' Sr. allopatn or a- homeopath who took an examination before you?". "Certainly not," was the osteopath's answer. "I believe Jn fair treatment to every one." "Then," thundered' Tr. Whitney, "you charge us with that which you say you would not yourself be guilty of! Is not that dishonorable?" Stands by Charges. . "Your boards have done it." cried Dr. Young. "They did it in Iowa, and we tock the case to court and beat "em, and it was taken to the Supreme court, end we beat 'em there, and you were compelled to acknowledge our qualifications." qualifi-cations." Dr. Young then declared that he knew nothing of conditions in Utah, and had no personal reference to the State Board of Medical Examiners. Before the osteopaths had their inning eeveral regular physicians continued the argument against the bill that was begun yesterday afternoon. Dr. Bas-coro Bas-coro said the bill was manifestly unjust un-just to the physicians, in that it gave to osteopaths more po'wer than had ever been granted to the medical fraternity. fra-ternity. He declared that protection of the jmblic was what he most desired, and said that he did not peek to have osteopaths excluded from practice, but only to have them subject to the same tests for qualifications as were physicians physi-cians of other schools. A Feculiar System. "This is a thing of a few years' time." he asserted, "and yet they want you to give them a power tAat the medical med-ical fraternity lias - never asked for. p1iQdo Aotanna thn nrartlce. say they practice, a peculiar system; they give no medicines; they do not pretend to be able to diagnose dipththeria, smallpox, or other contagious diseases. Now, the question is do they know enough to be trusted with the public health?" Dr. Beatty said: "I think it would be more in keeping with the situation for the physicians to have stayed at home today. We may be charged with appearing here through interested motives, but I disclaim dis-claim this for myself and my brothers, and say that I only seek to protect the public. The medical profession has for years tried to raise the standard of medical education, now you are asked to place In the hands of men who have not worked along the scientific lines required re-quired in medical colleges the Issues of life and death. Children to Think Of. "If everybody who dealt with physicians physi-cians was 21 years of age I would not raise my hand against this; I would let people choose, but there are thousands of children to think of who cannot choose for themselves. I do not charge these men with being fakers, with entertaining en-tertaining principles manifestly fallacious, falla-cious, but if they practice at all they should dos o after they have passed the same examination for qualifications asi the rest of us. There is nothing else so liable to be penetrated by fraud and fallacy as medicine. . .There is no fad from Dowieism up or down that will not find followers." Other Doctors' Views. Drs. Hanchett, Chandler and White also spoke briefly, saying that they did . not want to see the osteopaths excluded exclud-ed from practice, but insisted that they should be tested as are physicians from other schools. Then Dr. Young took up the cudgels for the osteopaths, occupying three-quarters three-quarters of an hour presenting their case. He denied generally and specifl-' specifl-' tally almost every statement that the physicians had made about his school and its practitioners. "They talk about the exactness of medical science," he exclaimed, "and there is not one of these physicians who appears here to denounce the osteopaths osteo-paths as Ignorant who can tell me the i |