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Show SPECIALISTS IN DESAULLES CASE: Prominent Members of Medical Medi-cal Profession Called in Defense De-fense of Chilean Heiress. QUERY OF 2,000 WORDS Defense Continues Presenting Case Much Expert Testimony Testi-mony to Be Heard. MINEOLA, N, Y., Nov. 2S. What is expected to be a lengthy battle be- tween medical experts over Mrs. Bianca de Saulles' claim that her physical condition produced a lapse of accountability when she shoo her divorced di-vorced husband was initiated in the young woman's (rial on a charge of murder In supreme court hero today. . Dr. J. Sherma n Wight. Mrs. de Saulles' physician since the tragedy, testified that the patient's condition following the shooting indicated that she was suffering from an enfeebled functioning of the thyroid gland from an inadequacy of the secretions of this , gland. This brings about an inactivity inactiv-ity of the vital processes, Dr. Wight testified. Would End in Mental Infirmity. Mrs. de Saulles" attorneys claim tho condition outlined by the physician produces a brain and nerve center condition which eventually ends in "a hopeless mental infirmit'." This disease, dis-ease, the defendant's lawyer terms "hypothyrcosis." This name, however, was not used by Dr. Wight. An X-ray photograph of Mrs. de Saulles' head which Dr. Wight claims shows a depression of a portion of one of the skull bones just above tho forehead, fore-head, was introduced in evidence. This portion of bone was dislodged, the defense claims, when Mrs. de Saulles sustained a fracture of the skull some years ago. It presses upon the brain, it is declared, and may have been a contributing factor in bringing about the temporary Joss of responsibility respon-sibility during which she asserts shOj fired tho revolver shots in her hus-i band's home on Long Island the night of August 3. MINEOLA, N. Y.. Nov. 23 Alienists, Alien-ists, X-ray specialists and other prominent prom-inent members of the medical profession profes-sion who will testify concerning tho defense's claim that Mrs. Biance do Saulles was suffering a lapse of responsibility re-sponsibility on tho night of August 3, last, when her former husband, John L. de Saulles, was shot to death at his home near Westbury, Long Island, will be asked a hypothetical question of 2,000 words in length. The defense continued presenting its case today, when the trial of Mrs. de Saulles was continued in the court here today. Much of the expert testimony will concern the thyroid condition, designated desig-nated "hypothyrcosis," by Mrs. do Saulles' attorneys, from which they claim the defendant was suffering at the time of the shooting. This disease, dis-ease, claimed to have superinduced the irrational spell during which Mrs. de Saulles' is alleged to have shot her, husband, is hoped to strengthen the defendant's claim of irresponsibility for the act. i Long Question Propounded. j The long question, according to Henry Uterhart. chief counsel for the defense, is in substances as follows: "Suppose a child was born in Chile in 1894," continuing it will relate many circumstances and occurrences touching upon the hypothetical "child's" life which might have a bearing bear-ing on its mental condition in later years. Uterhart says the question will conclude in approximately these words: "Now, Dr. , supposing these premises were true that these facts applied to some specific person, what would your opinion as to whether that person would be subject to lapses of responsibility?" First Witness Called. D. Stewart Iglehardt, a member of an importing firm, was the first wit-i ness called today. The witness said he and his wife had been acquainted with Mrs. de Saulles family for some years and had visited at the Errazuriz home in Chile. Iglehardt said he received a telephone tele-phone call from Mrs. de Saulles early the night of the tragedy. She said she was "terribly worried" because "Jack," her son, had not been returned re-turned to her home by De Saulles, and asked him to go to the "box" with her in an endeavor to get him. The witness said he refused because the service she received "was a delicate matter." Defendant's Sister Testifies. Miss Amalie Errazuriz, Mrs. de Saulles' sister, the next witness, cor-j cor-j roborated the defendant's story that she suffered a fall when a child in: which she struck her head against the' fireplace and was severely injured. De Saulles, Miss Errazuriz testified, asked her mother to buy him an estate in Chile while he and Mrs. de Saulles were visiting there. Her mother said she could not do that, but offered to give her son-in-law part of Vina-del-Mar, her estate near Santiago. De I Saulles insisted upon being given com-I com-I plcte control of the estate and when I this was refused the young woman I said ho treated her mother "rudely." Second Injury to Head. In reference to an automobile accident acci-dent in which Mrs. de Saulles claims she sustained another injury to her head, the witness said her sister was confined to her bed for "four or five days" following the occurrence. This happened during a visit to Chile after her marriage. Miss Errazuriz also gave testimony in support of the defendant's claim that De Saulles sought to alienate his son's affection from his mother through a nurse whom he engaged for the boy. After visits at his father's home. Miss Errazuriz said the boy would be unmanageable when he returned to his mother's custody. "Jack told me that Booble (his nick- name for the nurse) told him 'act bad' when- he returned to his mother," the witness declared. Boy Told of Gay Parties. The defendant's sister said thai when returning from these visits with his father tho boy told her a number of "gay parties" given at "the box," De Saulles' home. With the revolver with which Mrs. do Saulles shot her husband, the witness wit-ness then demonstrated the manner in which it might be discharged. Although Al-though equipped with a safety device, Miss Errazuriz said the pressure of the hand on the grip of the revolver was sufficient to release this catch and that consequently only one movement was necessary to fire it, Chileans Carry Revolvers. District Attorney Weeks maintains that two movements of the hand are necessary to discharge the revolver and that this would indicate that Mrs. de Saulles was not mentally Irresponsible Irrespon-sible when she fired the five shots at her husband. Miss Errazuriz said revolvers re-volvers are commonly carried by women wom-en in Chile. Suzanne Monteau, Mrs. de Saulles' maid, who accompanied her on the automobile trip from her home to the "box" just before the tragedy, was the next witness. Maid Tells Excited Story. Her French, accent and excited manner man-ner made it difficult for the judge and jurors to understand her story and she was frequently interrupted. "When Mrs. de Saulles entered the living room sho said she came to take Jack," declared tho witness. 'He mado her such an awful face," she continued con-tinued after a pause. "He said 'you can't have him now or never.' " The witness was so a'f-fectcd a'f-fectcd that it required fully a minute to regain her self-possession and continue con-tinue the tale. "I was standing right by Mrs. de Saulles and could seo everything," she went on finally. "He was facing her. I saw Mrs, de Saulles get awfully white," "Then what happened?" asked Judge Manning, when Miss Monteau hesitated hesi-tated again. "She shot him," sobbed the witness, apparently overcome by her recollection recollec-tion of the tragedy. Cross-Examination Confuses Witness. On cross-examination District Attorney Attor-ney Weeks seemingly confused the witness in reference to details of the shooting. There wore discrepancies in her answers to Weeks' questions when compared with those she said she made when a deposition was taken tak-en from her a few days after August 3. Parts of this deposition was read by Weeks apparently to indicate these differences. At the lime of the previous prev-ious questioning Miss Monteau said Mrs. de Saulles shot three times and "de Saulles did not move" whereupon she fired twice more. Another part of the deposition quoted quot-ed the maid as saying: "Mrs. de Saulles Saul-les put her right hand into her left hand pocket, Liking out the revolver and pointing it slowly in her former husband's direction.' " "Didn't Mrs. de Saulles say. just after the shooting, 'I'm glad I did it; I hope he dies?' " "That is not so." Witness Denies Charge. Miss Monteau declared she had no recollection of seeing District Attorney Attor-ney Weeks in the Nassau county jail the day following the shooting. She maintained she had no memory of conversations con-versations with persons on that day relative to securing bail. The maid was held as a material witness in $1000 bail, it had been previously pre-viously brought out in the trial. Maid's Deposition Read. Miss Monteau's entire deposition was then read by Attorney Uterhart,' following which Dr. Sherman Wight, whom Mrs. de Saulles has testified was the first person she remembers having seen when she recovered her senses in the jail following the shooting, shoot-ing, was placed on the stand. In reference to an examination of Mrs. de Saulles, which he made in the jail on August 6 three days after the "I found her lying In bed. She seemed to take little notice of her sar-roundings. sar-roundings. She looked pale it was a peculiar, waxy pallor. There was a puffy condition under the eyes. The whites of the eyes had a bluish cast. Pulse Was Feeble. "The woman's temperature was below be-low normal at 97. Her pulse was feeble 56, when 78 would be normal. A blood pressure test gave 15. It should have been 30 or 35 to be normal. nor-mal. The heart-sOunds were very feeble. "I made an examination of Mrs. de Saulles' heart and when I pressed on an area slightly to the left of the central cen-tral skull line and just within the hair, line, she made an outcry and shrank away. Thyroid Gland Withered. "An examination of her throat showed the thyroid gland was withered." with-ered." Subsequent examinations, the witness wit-ness said, served to convince him that Mrs. de Saulles was suffering from a deficiency of the thyroid glandular substance, without which the vital processes of the body became im-j im-j paired. The dotcor said he began treatment treat-ment to relieve this condition and believed be-lieved Mrs. de Saulles Is In considerably con-siderably better health now as a result. X-ray Picture of Skull. During one examination Dr. Wight said he made an X-ray photograph of Mrs. de Saulles' skull. The photograph photo-graph was introduced in evidence. It was a profile view of the skull. At the point near the forehead, indi-acted indi-acted by Dr. Wight, an appreciable lowering of the line marking the top of the head could be scon. The witness said this abnormal condition con-dition resulted from a skull fracture sustained some years previously which had never been relieved by a trephining tre-phining operation. oo |