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Show I PITMAN ON u Third Officer Tells of u His Experience Pub- J lie Barred. ml Wnshington, Apill 23. The life am I' death struggles of the vlctlmb of thc f Titanic disaster ncie pictuied to the iid, senate Inve&Ugntlng committee today ft Jty Third Officer Herbert John Pltmtn itfy of the sunken JInor 5 Chairman Smith of the commlttco If pressed Pitman regarding sconce JA after the sinking of the ship. F "I heard no cries of dlBtiess until i after the ship went down," he said. Ji 1 1 "How far away were tho cries from !fl iour lifeboat9" Sir! People Refused Aid. IJ'i "Several hundred feet probably, 1 boidc of them. I told my men to got It the oars out and pull toward the fii wreck that wo might be able to sav U a few more. The people In my boat W. demurred. They said it would be a l inad Idea " i "Did any one lu your boat urge or m nppcal to you to go back toward the ul wreck?" " : "No. not one." f "Did any woman urge you to 50 J i hack?" "No." ill "WTio demurred, the men with the v oaro?" ji "Oh, no; they obeyed my ordcis and If all the passengers said it was a mad Mb Idea to go back; that we should ndd J another forty to tho list of the I drowned. Then we took In the oari N and lay quiet." Lj Vlien Pitman yielded to the Impor- Trf fui'ltlrs of lhr T-isEonors he dli not tj 1 n book to scp, but moiely pulled j wtK-'jJ 'b(3 oars and drifted. Siyl '"' "Describe the screams." ' Ivjf "Don't, sir, please. I'd rather not Til taH. about it ' j, "I'm sorry to press Ilbut what waT h It like? Were the acronras lutermlt- m tent or spasmodic?" I "It wns one long, continued moan.' ll ' The witness said tho moanB and r mii cries continued an liour, and that he mado no effort to go to the rescue ""You drifted near the drowning people and made no effort to gle them , aid?" asked Seuatoi Smith In sui- . prise. "Please, sir, don't." pleaded Pitman "I can't tear to recall It I wish we might not dlscubs the scene." "I have no desire to lacorato our feelings," said Senator Smith, '"but we must know w'uother you drifted there without offeiing aid. Answer that and J will pi ess you no more." "I did, sir." answered the witness "Did you ever hear an thing of ; boat known as tho Hellf? Olav?" suddenly sud-denly asked Senator Smith. "No, I dldn'L There may be a boat of that name," said Pitman. The Olav docked at Nov York. April 17, and Is icportcd to hae encountered encoun-tered an Iceberg near where the Tu lanic sank. It has been suggested that the Olav may have been the boa, whose lights Fourth OfDcer Boxall sar and which he ineffectually tried to signal with distress rockets. Ho got a prompt response to his ring, ho said, and the report was not delayed. Shortly after the Incident ho and Lehigh were relloved. "Was It five minutes or an hour be-foro be-foro the collision that you saw tho iceberg?" demanded Senator Smith in exasperation. "Io don't kDOW, sir," said tho wlt-pess, wlt-pess, obdurately. "I wish you would tell the committee commit-tee whether you apprehended danger when you sounded these signals'" "All we have to do in the nest is to ring tho bell and if we think there Is dansror wo te'ephone." said Fleet "Then you did think thero was danger dan-ger when you rang the bell9" "I thought tho berg was pretty close but Jt did not seem so large as when I first saw it?'-"How it?'-"How large then?" iuym, nm size 01 iwo oig laoies. but it got laiger as wont along and whon wo struck It It was about fiftv or sixty feet high nbovo tho water.' Washington, Ajiril 23, Resuming the Inquiry Into the Titanic disaster today, mombors of the senate ln estimating esti-mating commltleo woro convinced vhat thp hearing would require many da vs. In hc opinion of Senator William Wil-liam Adon Smith, tho chairman and many of his colleagues, so much already al-ready lias been learned from tho examination ex-amination of but a few witnesses that it is Incumbent upon them to get all possible "information from eey person per-son who can enlighten the committee. T-nat the' facts already disclosed point out Inadequacy in marine regulation, reg-ulation, they are convinced, and that the whole story, when told, will form the basis for new maritime laws and lend to International conferences, entirely en-tirely revising ocean steamship transportation, trans-portation, thev do not doubt. All Nations Watching Investigations information has come to the senate sen-ate that the authorities of all the great maritime nations of tho world are watching tho investigation closely. close-ly. Tho commlttco had planned to recall re-call to the witness stand today, Fourth Officer Boxhall of tho Titanic, who revealed tho startling fact yesterday yes-terday that an unknown ship was sighted about fnc miles from the Titanic Ti-tanic long before she went to the bottom. This was the first time anything any-thing had been told of the ship which failed to catch the distress signals nnd stenmod away leaving the Titanio to her fate. Owing to tho great confusion caused by the rush of the crowds to tho hearing and the constant interruptions inter-ruptions during the questioning of witnesses, the senate committee determined de-termined today to exclude the general gen-eral public. To accomplish, this, the hearing was transferred to a small er room in the sennte office building. Only witnesses and thoso particularly Interested in the Inquiry and reporters report-ers wero admitted The change caused disappointment to thousands, most of them women, who crowded about tho corridor leading lead-ing to tho marblo caucus rooms. Thero were loud protests and hundreds hun-dreds remained about tho building clamoring for admittance Third Officer On Stand Third Officer Pitman told In detail his experiences of 17 years on tho seas. "Wore you present during tho trial tests of tho Titanic," asked Mr. Smith. "Yes sir, I was on tho bridge most of tho time." Tho witness said tho tests consisted con-sisted of moving- in circles and. in performing other evolutions and In adjusting compasses. Wore theio 3113' trials for speed1" ho was askod. "No sir; I believe there have been no such teBts on the White Star line " "Tell tho committee the circumstances circum-stances of the departure from Southhampton South-hampton " Nothing Exciting Happened "We left Southhamptlon at 12-15 p in , Wednesday, April 10. Nothing exciting happened except breaking the moorings of the New York caused a backwash on our starboard propeller. pro-peller. Wo got clear and proceeded to Cherbourg after a half-hour delay. "Wuat was the weather?" "Perfect ' "Was it good all the vay to tho placo of the collision." "All the way and no heavy sea." "Was there a starlit sky??" "Every night and morning." "Was it part of your duties to drill the men or go through practice with tho men?" asked Senator Smith. "No sir, I merely gave them orders."' or-ders."' Always Had Boat Drllln The witness said boat drills always al-ways wero held at Southampton and at Queenstown The Titanic's1 drill at Southampton, he said, consisted of lowering and lifting two boats. "Anything else done'" "No, sir, the dilll was to satisfy the British board of trade We low- rtrnrl fnn Viontu flflUrtrl nrriiinrl iVtn nr bor and then returned to tho ship " The witness said it was customary aboard a ship to have boat and firo drills every Sunday In the Southampton South-ampton drill, Pitman said that approximately ap-proximately 1C men went in each boat. "Then only sixteen men participate in this drill?'1 suggested Senator Smith. "Yes, sir." "Wero there anv fire drills on the Titanic after she left Southampton9" "No, sir; nono." "Wero you on the bridge Saturday or Sunday preceding the accident?" asked Senator Smith. He Stood on the Bridge "Oh, yes, part of the time, Saturday Satur-day afternoon from 12 to 4," said Pitman. "Seo any bergs." "No sli " "Any field ice!" "Nono at all, sir." "Did you hear anything about ico Saturda?" "No sir." "Did you hear anything about a wireless message about Icebergs?" Put It on the Charts "Yes, I did, either Saturday night or Sunday morning when JIv. Bohall put it on the chart," Pitman rqplied. "Did you talk with Boxhall or lur-dock lur-dock or Lowe rognidlng tho proximity or tho ship to ice?" "I did not, sir." "Did you talk to tho -captain?'" "It's not my place to talk to the Captain." "Did he talk to you about il?" "No." Asked If he saw any ico on Sunday, Sun-day, Pitman said ho did not. The fact that the tempcratuie was lower, ho said, would not Indicate the prcs-enco prcs-enco of ico. Need Many Changes "In this countrj and our country tho temperature ohanges are such that one wants an overcoat one day and cool clothes the next, but that is not duo to ice." said Pitman. Senator Smith suggested that the proximity of Ice was indicated in eecral was, such as tho effect on tho sky, the change in temperature, the glint of sun or moonlight upon the. The witness said virtually tho only way to discover the. proximity of Icebergs was to see them. Senator Smith sought to make thb wltncsb admit there were other Indications "Then jcu nro convinced thero Is no other way of telling?" asked the senator. x "Thero Is no other way. Some manners rnay hold that there are numerous nu-merous ways but thev have never been demonstrated. " "Senator Smith asked Pitman If ho knew tompprature tests of the water iSf,1r6 matJo even- two hours on the 1 innlc'svoyago from Southampton. , ,)Yes, sir, it wal tho cnstom.'V- t It Wan more than a custom, was it not? yno' it nolran attempt to discover dis-cover the nearness of ice?" (Continued' on Page Might.) oo (Continued From Page Ono ) "Not that I know of, sir" "Did you'see tho quartermaster on the Titanic test the water7" Saw Him Getting Ready. "No but I saw him preparing to do It several times," replied Pitman. "You say tho fourth officer reported ice Saturday night and marked it on the chart with a cross. Was this, mark on the chart on or near tho ship's course?" "As near as I recollect, it was north of our course." Pitman reiterated statements of others that the Titanic was on her proper course, "Did you seo any ice Monday?" "Yes When I was in tho iffeboat going to the Carpathla I saw several Icebergs. There may Tiavo been half a dozen of them." "Were these bergs high above the water?' "About 150 feet above tho water." "How many of these large ice- "Reallv, I could not say." Heard No Warning "Did you hear anything about a warning 'by the Callfornjan that Ice was in tho vicinity?" "No sir." ' "You heavd nothing whatever neither from second Officer Llghthol-der Llghthol-der or the Captain when you were on tho bridge that night?" "No sir.'- i The witness said the Titanic had been keeplug a special lookout for ice on the fatal Sunday. Ho said that It was done because Captain Smith had been warned Ice was near. "Who warned him?" inquiied Senator Sen-ator Smith. "I don't know, sir." "Well, who told you that he had been warned? Were you told, before tie disaster or afterward?" Of Doubtful Memory "I cannot remember who told mo and I think it was after the wreck." "Can you tell what speed the ship was making Sunday evening?" "About 21 1-2 knots an hour. "Was that pretty good speed?" "No, nothing to what we expected her to do." "How much did you expect?" "We thought sho could reach 21." "Were you tning to reach 24?" Not Enough Coal "No, because we did not have the coal for that," Pitman said he was on the bridge from C to 8 Sunday night and then had gone to his berth. Asked about Llghtholder's warning to Murdock about ice near tho ship, "We talked' about It among our-sehes our-sehes Sunday night. Lightholdor remarked re-marked that wo should be near ice ahout his watch " ' "Were you all agreed to that?" "I didn't say anvthing about it. I wasn't interested in it. I can't re-' member who was present I heard1 tho remark passed. That was all." By searching questions, Senator. Fletcher brought 'out tho fact that" when he, collision occurred the Titanic, Ti-tanic, washing, at, the greatest speed '?ul!l1incd dJU-lmj'tho trip, even though Ihotshlp fw'a$ entering the Grand Banks and ihad been advised of tho presence of ice. "How did she sink?" asked Senator Smith. Dived Head First .. She settled by the head and theD- 'uddenly sho got on end and dived straight down." Pitman was asked if he heard any cries of distress. ' Oh, yes." "Whnt?" t. . . "Crying, shouting, moaning.' "In tho water9" "Yes, from the water," "Did yon hear any explosion? ' . ' Heard Four Expjog'ons ''Yes, four. They sounded like big guns in the distance." cu "What wre these 'explosions?" 'I think they were' the bulkheads, sir." ' "' ' "When did the bulkheads break?" Tho explosions followed tho dive of tho ship almost Immediately' "Do ou believe the toilers Exploded?" Explod-ed?" "I do not and I was near enough to the thip to know " |