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Show SENATORS ACCUSE PRESIDENT OF EXERCISING UNDUE INFLUENCE ON PENDING LEGISLATION WASHINGTON, Juno 7. An unox pected turn was given tho senate's lobby investigation yesterday when Bena'tor Towvsond of Michigan, Repub Mean, declared on the stand that the influence wielded by President Wilson and that the Democratic secret canens npon the making of the tariff bill constituted con-stituted tbe "nearest approach to undue un-due influence upon members of congress" con-gress" that the investigating committee commit-tee would be able to find. Senator Townsend criticised tbe committee com-mittee for not having asked members of the senate whether the president had sought to influence them, and declared that even though the president hod not intended it, his recent denunciation of "lobbies" working In support of changes in the tariff would fore certain cer-tain senators to vote against amendments amend-ments they knew to be just. "Who are those senators!" demanded demand-ed Senator Reed. ''1 don't care to name anyone," returned re-turned Townsend. Intimation Resented. Tne fact that a man la for protection Is not sn evidence that he la dishonest, or because he is for free trade, that he Is honest. "Democratic leaders hsve been reported as saying: This is to he a matter the president must decide, and In order to be a good !emocrat and receive the proper amount of pstronnge, and not perhaps be opposed, you must support the party measure.' "Do you know any human being who can say as a matter of fact that President Presi-dent Wilson has either withheld or given appointments to affect the vote of any man in congress" demanded Senator Reed. No Personal Knowledge. "No. I do not. I only know what I hsve heard rsroored snd seen In papers," said Sens tor' Townsend. Senator Townsend said he had no substantial sub-stantial Interests thst might be affected by the tariff, snd knew of no lobbies existing ex-isting in Wsshlngion. Senator Weeks testified he severed his connection with sll his hanking snd commercial com-mercial concerns when he was elected to the senate. He said three or four men called upon him who might be called lobbyists. lob-byists. Among these were Thomas O. Marvin, secretary of the Home Market club, snd his brother. Wlnthrop L. Marvin, Mar-vin, secretary of the National Wool Manufacture's association. They were not promoting or opposing leglststlon. so he understood, but gathering gather-ing information for members of the sa-isoclatlons sa-isoclatlons who desired to receive It. Senator Shlvely testified he had no personal per-sonal knowledge of a lobby. Senator Cummins said ths flooding of senators with telegrams and letters was the only practice he had observed In Washington that was wrong and cost money. Senstor Page of Vermont said his chief Interest was In bide and calf skin trade, and In fertiliser manufacturing. He had small lumber holdings. "I favored free hides snd opposed free lumber In 1000." he said. The operstlona of Indlsn sttomeys in Washington In relations to claims snd attorney's contracts, con-tracts, he thought, came near to being of a lobbying character. The two Democratic members of the committee present, Senators Reed and Walsh, indignantlv resented any intimation inti-mation that President Wilson had used patronsgo or threats to force any one to support free sugar or free wool, orl to support tobacco as a whole. "I move," said Senator Walsh, ' ' that in view of the serious statements made touching the executive that any senator who has testified already may be recalled and interrogated in refer ence thereto. ' "I am for that," said Senator Nelson, Nel-son, and members of the committee agreed. Senator Weeks of Massachusetts, also a Republican, following Senator Townsend on the stand, expressed the opinion that "executives had had more influence on bills than all the persons who have come to Washington put together." to-gether." Opinion of Weeks. "The statement that the president put out in regard to an insidious lobby influenced the public mind." said Senator Sena-tor Weeks, "and that has its effect upon" the senators. The public believes a lobbyist is a bad man, and no senator sena-tor lik'ee to oppose a measure if the president says the lobbyist are seeking seek-ing to change it." Senator Shivelev, a Democratic member mem-ber of the finance committee, said ha knew of no lobbying influences at work on the tariff bill. The senate agreed to extend the time limit for the lobby investigation twen-tv twen-tv days, or until June 28. The new clement injected into it todav probablv will carry the qnestioning of senators over into next week. Features of the so-called lobbies on sugar, wool and metals and liquor, labor and other legislation leg-islation must then be taken up as the second stage of tho investigation "Undue In f lassies)." Senator Townsend 's itatemeate la relation re-lation to President Wilson were not In the form of charges. B sxpreaslv said he did not e barge the areaidMI with using improper methods, bat he Igsnslsil that the charm that lebbiae existed, and the activity of the prisliial ia support of free) wool and rWo osatjar amounted to aa " aadse aoaee' even though he Hid sot an Use "big stick" ef patronage. ' ' As the term ' lobby ' is generally aa derstood, " he said, "and as I believe It was used by the president ia his recent statement, upon which this iaveetiga tion was founded. It means oae who tries to secure or prevent legislation by the use of means that are improper, ov the offer or payment of asaaev. Use granting or withholding ef favors, by insidious threats of political opposition- by the use of patronage or the division of political rewards. T know of no improper lobbyist ef that kind. The nearest approach to undue influence ex erted upon members of congress, t be Hove is the influence exerted bv the president and by tho use and power o.' the partv secret caucus." "Do vou mean to say that is lobby ingt" demanded Senator Reed. Become Coercion. "A I abb it ia a man who attempts to influence legislation against the hon est conviction, the conscience and the notion of doty of the legislator," re turned Senator Townsend. "Because of the insuiuatioD that a lobby exists to influence them to vote for amend ments they believe in, I think some senators will refrain from ao voting This is aoercion. " "Yon believe there Is a species or lobbying lob-bying from ths executive, as wsll as from the outside asked Senator Cummins. Cum-mins. "Yea. sir: I have no doubt of It." re- Glled Senator Townsend. "I do not Isme the executive eny more than any other It seems to be rather popular nowadays. "TLsre an two aides to this Question. |