| Show Walter Winchell BROADWAY GOSSIP This column Is being written at 29 In the morning after a phone conversation with Governor Hoffman Hoffman Hoff Hoff- man of New Jersey which lasted over one hour He telephoned at nt and we didn't recognize his voice Hello Walter Valter he sa said d this is Harold Hoffman HoUman Is it 7 we said irritably a mood that usually follows two broadcasts the other Is for Cor the coast and coast and we had wearied giving giving giving ing five of the Stork clubs club's bills to that man many lucky winners there I I just finished your column said the governor and it says say for G. G H. H to call you at your office Im I'm In New York York have have a meeting in the morning here with some people Did you mean me to phone you Vell Well we said a little let down I didn't think of the connection connection- I mean the G. G H H. and Governor Hoffman I thought the thc letter I received Saturday was from someone someone someone some some- one associated with the Lindbergh case case Gerta Gerta Henkel for lor instance and and that I was getting a scoop In your column said the voice you had an aside to me which was followed by an aside to G. G H. H so naturally naturally- Yeah but how do tIo I know youre you're Governor Hoffman HoHman Sa Say something we wc both know that no nobody nobody nobody no- no body knows knows give give me a cue To which the tho voice proffered the bi big secret secret and and the realization realization tion that it actually was Governor Hoffman HoHman speaking was as embarrassing embar embar- rassing for rassing-for for Boake Carter had phoned from Philadelphia saying both of us were in bad with the members of oC the statehouse e at Trenton over our comments Weso We Ve Weso Veso so informed the governor I feel lousy about that Governor we said I sincerely hope you know that Ive I've become involved Indirectly Indirectly Indi Indi- in this whole thing thing thing-I I cant can't ver very well quit meddling at this stage of it but it-but but there is nothing personal Please understand that thatTo To that the governor affably re remarked remarked remarked re- re marked that Mr Carter had been misled and that somebody must have been teasing him An Anyone one said the governor who has anything anything anything any any- thing about this case should present present present pre pre- sent it il to the public what Ive I've been trying to do tIo he added but see sec what hat the they are arc doing doing doing do do- ing to me meI He seemed to feel the attacks The name of Bruno Hauptmann hadn't been mentioned by the governor or for or at least 20 o 0 minutes Wo We both skirted this and that about his recent statements statements state state- ments menta and the case in general Then Walter do Walter do you really believe that Im I'm trying to get publicity publicity publicity-or or that I am playing politics as they charge Governor we answered I am amas amas amas as confused as many others are Honestly I cant can't figure It out out out-I I mean your secret visit to Haupt Haupt- mann I do think you ou ought to clarify that to everyone I want ant to be inc convinced d he lie said aid that justice isn't miscarried in this case the case the burden will reston rest reston on me me-if me if it is ever discovered that New Ne Jersey Tersey electrocuted the wrong person Is it wron wrong for Cor mc me meto to feel that way vay about a a- human being Docs Does your Governor Lehman Lehman Leh Leh- man dismiss picas pleas for the conI con con- I t You know that thal he doesn't Walter He talks It over with others of course before he gives hI his final decision Governor Lehman surely is never criticised for attempting to be Interested in ina a man sentenced to death Why then all this criticism against my sincere efforts to get to the very bottom of the Hauptmann case It is not politics If it were were were- I might not have cooperated as I Idid did when did when I reappointed Justice Trenchard Trenchard-or or when reciprocal legislation was arranged to extradite extradite extradite extra extra- dite witnesses It was all done to give the state every possible co co- co operation They charge politics I could say that of several others but that would be politics About publicity the governor said The very fact that I 1 visited visited vis vis- Hauptmann in prison and kept it quiet for so long should long should prove I wasn't an exploitation seever If I were were were-I I might have had the newsreels there and other photographers as they had bad in incourt incourt incourt court I just dont don't want it on my conscience con con- science What really annoys is the misinformation that gets into print That stuff about another prisoner overhearing a promise of oC commutation to Hauptmann It never was promised I talked with him for about an hour It was never ne anything like e that at ailAnd alL ail alLAnd alLAnd And those statements about Mr Parker They quote him as stating stating stating stat stat- ing he traced ransom mone money in Europe to Isador Fisch He never said that And he doesn't claim that at all Walter Vatter I have never neverin in my career been moved by popular popular lar I clamor and Im I'm not now Look up the record Ive I've listened to many a plea plea but but never could see the way clear to pardon We Ve said something about his big mail from the public and that we had read where he had stated many people had their doubts about the guilt of Hauptmann I I get a lot of mail mall too we said but Governor after the courts and jury have reached a decision on a prisoner prisoner are are those of us in inthe inthe inthe the public eye going to make a popularity contest of it And disregard disregard disregard dis dis- regard the courts and the evidence evidence evidence evi evi- evi- evi dence It is like repudiating your own judges and juries and your our courts At no time have I raised the question he said of the ability of Justice Trenchard Attorney General or the jur jury I 1 do donot donot donot not question the verdict on the evidence presented But there are other things The Tho conduct of ot the trial the movies taken during it and what about the summonses given out so freely to celebrities Governor we told him the prosecution didn't do that so far faras faras faras as I know I 1 mean I do know a defense attorney did so But how does that conflict with all that evidence Unless you have ha something something something some some- thing ver very important you do not wish to discuss right now v. You probably have something something- you something you ou ar ara saYing sawing to convince everyone everone How v about J. J J J. J Faulkner he queried Is Condon all right What do you yot think about Condon's Condon's Condon's Con Con- dons don's recent claims to being offered offered of of- ered bribes We Ve said Dr Condon was eccentric eccentric but but he was honest honest and and about J J J. J Faulk Faulk- j to the rt re I ner we referred him ord The governor said h he el 4 J Jno j jno no new evid evidence and th that t the r dt ense had none so far tar as be he k knew e i i no now s' s What do o you think about the accomplice angle anjI c cabout or about Ha Hauptmann 1 he ic asked told all 11 w WI We Ve told him we had the 8 it and and andon on knew in the paper But that we believed Hauptmann guilty as charged That W we would wouw j be tho the first to offer oller any evidence we too otherwise because wouldn't want it on our to 10 if the wrong man nun were put PalA 1 that thaL not feel w death But we could the state had miscarried justIce Intervention Jt lb He is basing his e rejected appears on some w ww know dence He wants to We told tow h hwe it wasn't used we knew know the state had om omitted 1 bad some of it because the state ta tb the that t A convict and enough to de i o omitted evidence was as open to w chief I Imal nial mal and doubt Jerseys Jersey's c Y German Germ executive is not a e many have imagined jih 1 Is Holland-Dutch Holland and American th the In reply to our question he d did 7 n said that governor o woul di dior know when Hauptmann or or that he would In dil Copyright 1935 DaUZ MIrror I |
