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Show ISlETBTELL Former Governor of Minnesota Minneso-ta Relates Experiences as . Wilson Representative. DENIES ATTACK ON CATHOLIC CHURCH Behooves U. S. as Great Neighbor of Weak Nation to Be Very Patient. WASHINGTON, April 27. The story of John LInd, former governor of Minnesota, Min-nesota, of his experiences in Mexico as President Wilson's personal representative, repre-sentative, was told today to the senate sen-ate Investigating committee. Included Includ-ed was some account of his efforts to induce Huerta to abdicate the dictatorship dicta-torship he held following overthrow of the Madero government and before American occupation of Vera Cruz. Revolution was necessary in Mexico, Mexi-co, Mr. Lind contended, to rectify conditions con-ditions "though it will take decades to, bring the people up to our standards." stand-ards." He denied he had ever, as Examiner Ex-aminer Kearfull, for the committee asked, "attributed all of the ills of Mexico to the influence of the Catholic Cath-olic church" and denied he bad ever made such statements to Nelson O'-Shaughnessy, O'-Shaughnessy, former American charge d'affaires In Mexico, - Mexico Necdo Education. ' "What Mexico needs is education," ho declared, "and it is very unfortun ate that the influence of the Catholic church has been against schools In Mexico. As In the United States, its influence has not been in the direction of establishing and maintaining public pub-lic schools." That ho had ever said the church shoujd be abolished as an institution in Mexico, or that he had said he advocated ad-vocated recognition of Carranza "lest poor Mexico fall back into the clutches of the Catholic church," Mr. Lind likewise like-wise denied. At the conclusion of his account of ' the failure of the mission with Huerta, Mr. Kearfull asked for Mr. Llnd's opinion as to the present policy that should be adopted toward Mexico. 1 U. S. Should Be Patient. "Though I do not know the present condition," Mr. Lind returned, "it he-hooves he-hooves us as a great neighbor of a weak country to bo very patient, not to judge them as we would England, Franco or Canada, as to their responsibility respon-sibility In international affairs." "Do you think wo should refrain & . from insisting on protection for Am- r- " erican lives and property in Mexico?" Attorney Kearfull persisted. "No, of course not, nor do I think the best protection will bo afforded such interests by a military, warlike attitude," Mr. Lind responded. "When for five years our strongest, verbal representations have been disregarded," dis-regarded," Attorney Kearfull continued, continu-ed, "when thirty thousand Americans have gone to financial ruin in Mexico, M wfierc hundreds have been murdered I , and we find nothing but leygy for our I! further representations, what should be our attitude?" K "That is not for me to answer," Mr. IK Lind retorted. "I think the statement I is much exaggerated. Many have suf fered loss of lives and property from criminals in this country during the' same period." "Havo you heard that any of our generals or high officers in public life were concerned with the losses?" the examiner pursued. I, Military Occupation Disapproved. I "Certainly not," Mr. Lind said. "Of i course, we can defend Americans to a i certain extent along the border and in the seaport but to defend them In the ' ' interior would mean tho military oc cupation of Mexico, as disastrous to us as to Mexico. There may come a time when force Is Inevitable." oo |