Show 2B Standard-Examin- Thursday October 20 1988 er Metro Chief of Harrisville seeks hunting ban Factions hash out tax cuts By CAROL MacPHERSON Standard-Examine- By MARJORIE CORTEZ effect without schools" she said Conversely small-busine- ss affecting Glen Davis a man who sup- ports the initiatives said the state’s high taxes are the very reason new industry has shied away from locating here Davis said a poll conducted by Dan Jones and Associates showed that 424 chief executive officers said high taxes are a “major obstacle to expansion of business” “We need to take care of our tax base which is the business climate of Utah” Davis said Allen and Davis were among four speakers Wednesday night at a debate on the tax initiatives at Woods Cross High School The debate sponsored by the Davis County League of Women Voters drew about 150 peo Debate From IB Shea said if $329 million were cut from the state there would be no way the revenue could provide the infrastructure needed to run the state as in ' many subdivisions border the open ground where there is hunting He said the hunting is “very dangerous” because there are so many children and animals Robert PopeStandard-Examine- r Radio talk host Mills Crenshaw discusses state spending ple Radio talk show host Mills Crenshaw one of the leaders of movement the on criticized the state’s leadership for big spending “The government of the state of Utah is completely out of control” Crenshaw said Davis concurred saying it costs three times as much to educate a child today than it did 30 years ago “We’re not producing a better product today for twice the money” he said Allen countered by remarking that part of the increased education costs is due to inflation and that public schools are required by the federal government to provide programs such roads police and schools The tax initiative proponents disagreed with the numbers — and said the Legislative analyst disagreed with them also Yaggi said certain economic principles alway hold true and that is the case for tax cuts “Every time there has been a tax cut there has been growth as special education and more recently asbestos abatement programs “I can assure you if these initiatives go into effect we’ll still have to do these things and have far less money to do it with” she said Allen teamed with Norm Angus director of the state Department of Social Services responded to a barrage of education-related questions from moderators and members of the audience School administration costs were a focal point Allen defended the practices of Davis School District which she said has experimented with reducing the number of principals at it schools in the economy and a decrease in unemployment and the opposite is true for raising taxes” Asked what he thought had been been the grossest inaccuracy offered by the other side throughout the campaign Yaggi said he has heard opponents say $22 billion would be cut from the state “There was not a parent who favored that because when they needed to talk to a principal they weren’t there” Allen said Even if the district eliminated all of its administrators it would only realize a 7 percent savings she said “You can cut 7 percent of the budget We’re looking at a 13 percent budget cut (if the initiatives pass)” she said Crenshaw dismissed Allen’s comments about the lack of school principals as a scare tactic He said the educator’s tactics were intended to “frighten parents and voters and to keep them from getting control of our own government” Peterson said the statement that the state would just be go- ing back to 1986 tax levels is false — the property tax would go back to the 1979 level Shea said the total cuts to the state when the loss of federal funds and the loss of other fees is added in will total 25 percent not 6 percent Candidates oppose tax initiatives By WENDY OGATA PHIL JENSEN ceiving majority support in and public opinion polls educators must not get complacent in their fight against the measures He said the message is clear that people are concerned about their taxes “I think we’re going to have to live with limitations on taxes” even if the initiatives don’t pass Knowlton said Jack Distel Democratic candidate for the House District 17 race said social services and education are treated by budget handlers with the attitude of “we’ll fund you if we have the chance if there’s money in the Standard Examiner start Legislative candidates in Weber and Davis counties this morning told educators they oppose the three proposed tax initiatives mostly because of the effect the measures would have on the state’s schools Phi Delta Kappa an educators fraternity sponsored breakfast meetings this morning in Layton and Ogden at which candidates for Utah’s Legislature were invited to speak In the meeting at Layton Elementary candidates said they felt the three tax initiatives that will appear on the Nov 8 general election ballot go too far “I do not support a tax increase” said Lane Beattie Republican candidate for Senate District 23 “But I do not and never have supported the tax ini- - tiatives” Beattie said he believes eco- nomic growth is the “only answer to get money for education” Nelda Bishop Democratic candidate for Senate District 23 is a former teacher “I think teachers budget" He commended educators for doing a good job under difficult circumstances including low Nolan Karras wages keep doing more and more for less" she said She opposes the tax initiatives saying she can’t see where schools can make the cuts that will be necessary if they pass Republican Rep Franklin to Knowlton is seeking House District 16 He said although the initiatives are not re Rep Kim Bumingham is unopto posed in his bid for House District 19 He said Initiatives A and B in particular will cause revenue losses that will hurt all facets of government services not just education Of Initiative C which would give about $700 in tax credits to parents of private school children Bumingham said he op poses it in principle because it helps only the rich because families can’t afford to send their children to private schools In Weber County legislative candidates said they were unalterably opposed to the tax initiatives as a measure that would gut public and higher education Rep Haynes Fuller a Democrat to House Disseeking trict 8 blamed poor education on parents “who demand mediocrity" “Forty years ago a principal would send home a note and a parent would be intimidated” Fuller said “Today the principal sends home a note the parent goes to the principal and the whole teaching staff is intimidatlower-in- come Standard Examiner correspondent MORGAN — Investment bankers in Chicago and New York have put Utah on a municipal bond credit watch until the status of the tax initiatives is decided in the upcoming election Morgan County residents and politicians were warned Wednesday night William Asplund assistant director of the state’s Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel spoke about the initiatives at Morgan High School He told a crowd of Morgan County residents that a portfolio manager from a large Chicago bank called him and told him about the credit watch Asplund said the banker also told him that if the initiatives pass he will advise his clients to get rid of their Utah municipal bonds g organizations such as Standard and Poors have placed Utah on a credit watch because of the uncertain future of the state's municipalities the state official said Asplund was invited by the Bond-ratin- around the open areas In addition Dean said the department has received many complaints about destruction of -roperty such as windows shot out of homes and cars The hunting in the area is for birds with the largest wave of hunters out for the pheasant hunt in November he said According to state law it is unlawful to hunt within 600 feet of a house barn corral etc Dean said this distance is hard for most people to figure It is longer than most people estimate — at least two football fields long he said Because of the growth in the Harrisville area Dean said it is much harder to find an open area 600 feet from buildings Ogden and North Ogden have banned hunting within their city limits and Dean recommends the same for Harrisville He said he expects a bit of opposition mostly from people who want to hunt on their own Hopefuls downplay political labelings v By SUSAN CONRAD Standard Examiner correspondent BRIGHAM CITY — A frequent theme voiced by several state and local candidates during a political rally Wednesday in Brigham City was that party affiliations really don’t mean much because there is not much difference between Utah’s Republicans and Democrats The rally sponsored by the American Association of University Women and 16 other organizations in Brigham City brought out 15 candidates and a large crowd of Box Elder County voters “The audience participation was excellent these are interested informed citizens They were not just here to take up space” said Ellen Opprecht chairman of the event “This was an example of grassroots politics at its finest- - We had over 200 people here to meet the candidates” Opprecht said “Although Box Elder County is a strong Republican area we were encouraged that the Democratic candidates didn’t write this opportunity off” said Opprecht Among the participants were Merrill Cook Gunn McKay Brian Moss Val Overson and Ed Alter A ii 7 r n McKay who is challenging Rep Jim Hansen for the 1st Congressional District seat said “I don t support all of the Democratic platform and have never supposed all of the views of any President I have served under” Lt Governor Val Overson said “unlike the other candidates far governor Norman Bangertpr won’t promise more than he can deliver We have to balance services with the ability to pay for them” he said Cook independent candidate 5 for governor said he leans more to the Republican side and that he thinks Bangerter and (Ted) Wilson should both be running on the Democratic ticket ‘ n Brian Moss running against Hatch for US senator said he is fully supportive of the space program and that if his father Frank Moss were still in the Senate there would be no threat to Morton Thiokol today Local candidates participating e included Marie Krueger and Peck Box Elder School Board candidates Monty Munns and Darrell Stucki county assessor candidates and Robert Valentine Boyd Gardner Frahk Nishigushi and Darald Fuller county commission candidates Or-ri- Shir-len- P7f? mrM House Majority Leader Nolan Karras a Republican seeking to House District 12 said he is most concerned about the polarization the tax initiatives have caused “It is almost senior citizens versus the kids in school” Karras said 49 APR With Financing! 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