Show ad T S d c IRI S ma BY PRESIDENT iiii JOHN RUB at kogan logon conference Con ference ferenee sunday afternoons afternoon august oth 1882 7 I 1 REPORTED BY lleo ileo GEO 1110 F V GIBBS there Is one thing I 1 wish to spie speak ak about which has already been referred to that is in regard to your temple I 1 ganjoin can join with the brethren in kayin ing that I 1 slavery am very well pleased with tze the progreso progress made on that building and end with the energy and liberality that has haa been manifested towards it for one I 1 have not a word void of complaint to make about anything I 1 think that things have been done and managed very well wiell some of the speakers have given tho the trustee in trust credit tor for doing something Bo towards it but then that is nothing it is your means not mine particularly only as one ot of you and what you have done you have done outside of thesa things and con eon I 1 think there imn Ima ia a little more credit due to you than to the trustee i trust the th people in this temple dib diA district triet have furnished about throe three fourths of the means and the trustee in trust about one fourth now we do not wish to have any of the employees deprived of what la Is justly their due doe for thet the laborer Js Is worthy of his bis hire bre 1 I did not like to hear some of the tho remarks this morning to the affect that we were in debt we calculate to pay our debts as we go along and then we feel teel that we have acted justly and are free from all responsibilities and care for all just demands ought always to be met we have kept things along pretty well weil and I 1 think that we wiil wili ba be able 0 o put it through I 1 have been talking with brother card who is the superintendent bu perin te of the temple and also with the temple committee and I 1 will teli tell you what I 1 am prepared to do if you are prepared to follow suit and thus stop all reni remarks arks about tardiness of pay for it Is proper that all al just jaet obligations ought to tb be and must b be met brother card thinks that the sum of wiil will bom hom complete the build ing I 1 do not know whether his bis figures aro are too much or too little but if that Js sufficient it teems as nothing compared with what we lave already done ane ave have got accustomed to it and it j 19 fg is 19 much easier doing a thing when you are aro used to it than when you are axe not thore there Is a proposition to the effect that a fifty cent donation be made if that bo be done and the people are willing to respond to it all well and good and whatever amount ia Is sub I 1 will as a trustee in trust add my proportion to it according to tho the pro rata in the figures mentioned what do you say do you think you can stand it president W B Pr preston eaton caton I 1 think we can well try brother preston kays he thinks you can or ba found trying I 1 do not nov know what your donation will wili amount toy top to and therefore I 1 will undertake to say now that the trustee in trust will be good for which it is seated swed will be r fourth of the sum required to finish the work I 1 would like to know now whether you are willing that 1 I as trustee in trust should help you to the amount of all that are willing raibe raise up the right hand A forest orest of hands bands went up I 1 bellove that carried laughter now I 1 want you to put to that the sum aum of here president taylors Tay tny loia attention was called to the fact that he had made a mistake that the proportion of the people would bo be instead of 1 I am reminded that I 1 have made a mistake that it should be will the clerk please give ug the correct rec t figures BO so that wo may do things understandingly the clerk ascertained that the trustee in trust had paid more than one fourth but not quite one third vo will too pr precise eaise about those these matters perhaps it would be aa as well to orr err orron on that side aa on the other for in any event we are all of us desirous to see ace the work progress and have all our liabilities met well well let it go at 1 I propose to give you my portion on demand that these men may get their pay pays and then allow you a little time timo to get in ybur our harvest which will give you an opportunity port unity to accomplish your end of lile tho matter what do you say tho the question to vote and carried thero there were some bome demarks made about liquor drinking this thia mornine morning I 1 and aid some people seem to think tha thai t I 1 j thero is ia a gi groat domy difficulty abon managing thesa these things but I 1 dont think there la is if we can only manage ourselves I 1 teel feel like giving you credit for fon or what whit you have done in this respect and hope that you will be able to keep beep it up I 1 want to state here that god has organized his church in buch such buc suc haway a way that all of these matters can be arranged within the church law or no law if we will only do our duty and each of us magnify our calling and our priesthood in the various positions that we occupy in the church and kingdom of god and it is a much better principle than the civil law as the civil law is frequently perverted by mai mal adminis and made to operate in such each a way aff aar to trample on the i bights of men the organization of the church la Is after the plan that exists in heaven and according to the tho principles that god has revealed in the interest of his hia church upon the earth and for the advancement and and sud rolling forth of his kingdom we ve start la in with the teacher and with the priest whose duty it is to know the position of all nil the members in their several districts it they do their duty they will know really and truly the p pel al biln of all those who come under their charge their duty is very simple what is it they are to see that there is no hard feeling existing in the breasts of the saints one towards another that there are no dishonest or fraudulent acte no or corruption no lying false accusations profanity or drunk drunkenness ennese and that the people call upon god in prayer in their various households the father and mother and children chUd renand renaud sand saud that all per peri form their various duties and do right I 1 look upon it that the teachers and the priests occupy a very important position in the church and kingdom of god and that it they perform their auty fluty aright there will bo be no no hard speaking there will beno hard feelings no bitterness or wrath there will be no fraud no lasciviousness of any hind kind no drun drunkenness kenneb kennes nor will there be any bitter or improper feelings of any kind hind for it is their right and privilege to look after these things and not only their right and privilege but their duty and if they do not fulfill fulfil thib thie they are aro not magnifying their thein calling and priesthood but bat if they are and people are disposed to listen to them then everything will he be rig right gh tin ia regard to thia this mauei and if there are thome who are not disposed tu to listen to them and to do right then it becomes the duty of the teachers atter pleading with them and doing the best they can to report them to their thein bishop and then it devolves upon him to do his hia part not in anger or ani ant animosity moal or in the spirit of vindictiveness vindictive nebs nees but as a savior and the teacher and the priest pries t ought to act in the same way and while god has organized hla hia church upon the earth after the plan that exists in the heavens it is for the various officers in the church to fulfill fulfil the duties devolving upon them acting in all kindness long buffi bunni ering and mercy bea before ore the lord yet with justice and judgment that the law of god may be honored that the principles off of righteousness may be exalted that the workers of iniquity may be asham ed that the meek increase their joy in the tho lord and the poor among meemay rejoice in theU the holy oly one of Israel that righteousness ness nesa and truth troth may prevail among the people of god and we may act not in name only but ia in reality as the saints of god without rebuke in the midst of I 1 a crooked and perverse generation if any persons then shoun feel that alicy are aggrieved by the acts of bf tho the teacher leacher or the bishop if they should think that they have been unnecessarily harshly dealt with they have the right of appeal to t 0 the high council high priests a elected effrom from among the tho people and set get apart because ot of their fidelity their integrity meir melr honor and their justice at least these are ane kind hind of qualifications necessary to fil ill fill thib thia calling callan g and if upon an appeal to the t e high hig h council on any ot of these matters of course including drunkenness they find there has been unnecessary harth harshness riess it would be fur them to remedy the evil to see is done and that no man is ts oppressed on the contrary that all have their rights nights r gats freedom liberty and equal justice in righteousness without fear or favor when things are attended to in this Is way they move along all nil right if f professed saints will not obay the law of god goo but lut violate the commands of the almighty they are not fil ill to ie be the servants and hand maids makis of the lord we are told that they must be dewit dealt with according to rules laid down in the law of god by the pro proper persons emons that he has placed in his gr is church E hurch for that purpose I 1 heard a man not long ago sav i that in the place he lived ho he had ha d seen a great many people drunk it was one of those places abounding with saloons in which they could get beastly drunk and that some bome of eider those who thus indulged mereel were elder i high priests etc the man a an himself was a high priest if I 1 had hal seen been such men I 1 should have gone to them and told them what course to pursue to stop those in fables every elder eider in israel ought to be on the watchtower watch tower as watchmen upon the walls of zion where iniquity prevails or evil of any kind it is for them to do what they can to stem the current of evil and to lift up and exalt the people that they may comprehend correct principles live their religion and be prepared to receive the blessings of jehovah when I 1 was quite a boy 1 I was not a mormon then but I 1 had principles of humanity nevertheless there abere was an old gentleman whom I 1 respected he was a good man a praying man he had a wife who did not want to pray and who interfered with his hia devotion evo she was wan uneasy treasy and turbulent and a kind of thorn in his flesh under these trials he got along very well but it used to drive him to the lord i after a while she ehe died and he be m married again this time to a very amiable lady his wife was so pleasant and agreeable that the change in his was very great being thus comfortably situated he be became remiss remits in some of hib hia religious duties and commenced by givin livingway gway to the temptation of liquor seeing the course he wab vats taking reent I 1 went tolila to him afelt I 1 felt feit a little littie bashful on account of my youth at the time but because of long friendship and out of respect for his many good qualities I 1 felt it a duty to bring these delin to his notice I 1 told him that I 1 hanseen had bad seen him drunk a few days previously nud and that it had hurt me very much to see him in such a state as his course had always been exemplary and he was a man whom I 1 respected very highly he appreciated my good tee fee feelings linges saying that he felt dis disgrace grae grac ed and anil promised to mend hib hia ways now that was not mormonism but it was a correct feeling cannot we as latter day saints doas doss much good as those bhoge who are not latter day saints cannot we go after alter our 1 brethren and asters slaters when they do wrong with love and affection nud and lead leao them in tue the paths of ilfe life but then if they will not do it after much persuasion it becomes our duty to deal with them as th iw law of god directs but in doing this we ought to be full of love and kindness one toward another and not be harsh acrimonious or desirous to place them in a wrong such feelings do not become latter day saints we ought to cherish feelings of kindness and love and long iong longsuffering suffering but we do not want our charity to cover too many bins sins everybody is at liberty to do this whoever he may be e it being our privilege to do good to 0 try to redeem and exalt our fel low ow meland men and to act aa as saviors upon when people will wili not do right are we to foster the wrong no god forbid we talk sometimes about the celestial the trial glory and the teleet ial lal alory do you think that a man will get the celestial glory if he does not abide the law of the celestial kingdom ing you latter day saints kno know better wells welly well weil then it if men aret aro dis dig posed to do wrong to violate the commandments of god and yield to evils of various kind hind ia is a bishop authorized or is the high council authorized to cover up those sins and allow them to go on I 1 tell you no they are not and aud il the priest and the teacher do not do their duty it forthe is bishop to loo Joo look kafter after them thorn to see that they do their duty and if it the bishop does not do his duty in this respect it becomes the duty of the president of the stake state to do it to see that a prevails that the principles of truth aredus are sustained that the gospel of the son of god is honored and aud that hat the fhe principles of equity justice and righteousness and the fear of god are maintained in their purity in the stake over which lie he presides and if tb the e president of the stake does not a attend t to this duty then it devolves upon the first presidency ey to seb see that no iniquity exists in the church and when these things are a re done we are thoa thea in a position to approach god our heavenly father to ask and receive to seek and nind find and to knock and have the door opened unto us and besides these which are the leading prominent media or channels through which these things are reached there are other methods bychich by which they can be adjusted the twelve where they go are expected to regu regulate iare lare matters of this kind bind we have a quorum of high priests in each stake and it Is for them to exercise themselves and their influence individually and as a quorum in the interests of righteousness and virtue and the maintain ance of the principles connected with the kingdom of god they have no particular position or calling they are ordained to the high priesthood and it Is for their president to meet with them and have them bumble humble themselves before god and beek seek for the guidance of hia hla holy spirit and the light of revelation ifor forth this thib ls ordinance we are told in the doctrine and covenant covenants ils Is its instituted for the purpose of qualifying those who shall be appointed standing presidents or servants over different stakes scattered abroad and they may travel also if they chose but rather be ordained for standing presidents this la Is their office and calling baith balth the lord your god that they may comprehend the principles of law of government ern ment of justice and equity and watch over not only themselves theme elves but their families and friends frienda associations ciati clat lons ions ons and neighborhoods and act as fathers in israel looking after the welfare of the people and exerting a salutary influence oyer over the saints of the most high god again we have havo our organization of seventies and hey they ought to see bee that there fb jb fa 19 no iniquity among their quorums no drunkenness no whoredom no fraud nothing that is wrong or improper unholy or im pure 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