| Show r DEBATE It ItI I IS CONCLUDED O Opening Address of Elder Curtis Characterized as Rambling And Irrelevant TANNERS STRONG REPLY R PL y j I Euler Curds Denies Prophecy of oC f Io Jo 0 PupIl Stimuli to Ml 11 grat Ion In 10 I 1 Hock I tita I us Special Correspondence Provo Aug u 21 The audience at the closing session elt lon of ot the debate between Eider H II S 8 Tanner and und Elder Eider J 3 F r P Curtis Curll held last lilt night was a as RS large as I Ithe the first t night In spite split of ot the unpleasant tint ant nt weather and as an on the two to pre pie previous nights night dOle close attention IU OS paid and unI HII appreciative Interest was shown shon The Th discussion will vj probably tend to tomake tomake tomake make the adherents of each church stronger in their faith The fhe debate lies has been of ot value alue In giving the people pf an Ott opportunity to hear the th arguments In n favor of at the position of ot each church churchon on the Important question of ot th the suc succession sUCcession cession After singing Praise Pral to The Th Man IRn etc awl and prayer r by hI ider Joseph F o Jr Judge Noon the modem modera moderator tor br cautioned d the Uie audience not to RI at plaud nor show any ott 1111 marks of le leaA as aA the matter was one of Importance to the people and he nl o cautioned the Ibe sneaker Il aker to contine conOne themselves to the subject Who Sho Is the time legal le successor 10 to the Prophet t Joseph Jo ph Smith In the presidency of or the Church of Jesus Christ l of ot Saints ULDER COliTIS AD D ADDRESS DRESS DUESS Euler Curtis then Ihen read from the Mil Mi Star and other publication publications ac so accounts counts connLe of ot ordinations by b those who hold a lesser office of the priesthood of ot other to n a higher office In Itt the priesthood He tie again referred to 10 the III claim that Pre President dent Young oun could not hot be a successor of the prophet Joseph because he lie had taught other doctrines titan than those tho taught by II the prophet while the revelation 8 saul Id the successor r should teach the Mm same doctrines In itt proof of ot thin this he read from remit the Journal of ot Discourses DI some ROme of ot President Young Youngs discourses the one on there being h In the tilt Churns Church the smartest ramblers gamblers In the th world orI etc and claim lm id I d 1 that this with the re rt referred r erred to tf taut last night showed that hug ham Young could rould not l he be e the successor of ot the hp I prophet lie lift also referred to 10 the revelation re rt biting to seventies l which provides for the organisation of up ul to times seventy Hent and 11 1 said uld that after the tb death of ot Joseph Smith the apostles apostle increased the number of oC quorums from two to eleven cleven and th the increase was nas made by II the apostles apostle and ami not by b the presidents of oC seven seventies seventies ties an as the revelation provided H Il lie also alro stated that the mon who bettor dallied young Joseph were fre considered rood good fellows according to the record of f the church until they assisted H In Inthe inthe the ordination l of young Joseph lIh and then they th tile wert weri terrible fellows lie He claimed thai that Marks Mark Blair und anti y had not Joined other churches as n had haJ been stated Mated but had remained true trill In 10 the Ih gospel ns nil revealed to the Prophet Joseph Josepn Jo ph hat they the Ihl Imd hd or If ordained ordained young Joseph J Ih In III obedience to a alion revelation lion received by b them t He Un claimed that there was wa no author authority authority ity I for tor ordination l of ot the president of ot the apostles to Iho thu presidency p of the hutch Church rending reading from church hureh writers writer to 10 that t and quoted quoIN from Prell President President dent Joseph F Smith In the Need heed Smoot CUM case that the succession slon of ot the lie presidency N t dency deney to the Ih president of ot the OI apostles was 1111 only anI n a custom and that any nn man could be bo selected I Ift 1 to the Ihn presidency He lie devoted of ot his tune time to arguments against a 1 polygamy to 10 show hol that this thle doctrine was 18 one oue of ot the false doctrine Introduced after the death nf ot the Ih prophet et ft which doctrines showed those th who came to tUh Itah had Ir and not who remained behind Bitter H Il S 5 Tanner Tun In itt his hll closing speech criticized Rider Elder Curtis urtis for t r talk Ing about so many man things which had nothing to do with the succession n In n the r The question of at IlGIn amy blood atonement or It who Is II or Is II not nol our God Cod had hid nothing U to do with the tae succession In th tilt the dener and aI ant h he had hall not lIet count come down to discuss ul thus those things and had refused refuted to do so and therefore the agreement of lit the debate bate h had d been mode made ax III U it hal hail Elder Tanner then reviewed the or of Smith and Oliver r Cowdery to the apostleship r by b Peter Pter James and John and nd that therefore there thre was not any excuse for saying ring that they ordained one another to a higher than that which they th held as III had b been n claimed by b Elder Curtis Eider Eldr Tanner also corrected corr the state at tf uncut ment of ot Elder Curtis In regard to the organisation of ot quorums of iI seventy I showing that the revelation provided for th the ordination of or up mp to He Ill 11 al also o showed from flOm tile the history of the t Utah that some mf of or the men who ordained Young Joseph J ph had been m of ot other churches aine the Ih ib death of ot the Prophet Which Elder Cur us Ih had hd denied Rider Eider Tanner then look lon ui Ut om em nf 11 the points joints advanced by h b Yo Curtis cilia relating refuting them tl h from e the revelations auch auth as AI the tar that rill of f the th op ospel h had bait l been revealed at th Ih the time flaw of in th the revels revel Iel Ion given ghen In Ohio which WAS wu shown by subsequent revelations set to In mean that there were wees B no III other tn tsi be bt r re the Saints Saint Elder Tanner sties show fit ed l that the tile thine transpiring In secret chambers spoken l Ob of or In is the I revelation In III 1101 could rould not save its referred to 1 the apo 10 t tk If a as 1 had hid be been n ual by It EIder Cur ur tl I tip for tor the reason l Ml Mt tIM the apostles aJl Olt quorum was M not in existence at al that tie Ins 1 I He lIe alee O again referred ro rr t to th the tact of th tM the f I Oliver GIber c given to and anti read 14 hili hial I bl blID given to In which he h and Inti his hit seed had been w blessed d blessings were being Ial fulfilled 11 lip lie also red 1 4 urea from th Ih the Millennial Star A s prophet by b the Prophet Joseph JOH h that the tb SAInt p e to 10 the Hock mountain mountains sad there ther th become neat great people Thin ThIll hud had been n nM by a Eider lurId l Elder KMer Tanner Taner read r 4 d from fro th the r aln n on showing Ki that thu It the quorum of apostles were p onual al In pourer u with lIh that thai of ef the first not fir lint and nd the tat m sr of the th Prophet p I JOlt ncy tb that t where he lit WM was not Mt th Ih there r Wu we n 11 so lint I presidency r der Curtis in hi his 11 l ef 11 ios answered s some ef f the arguMents argument of Kloer SM 3 Tanner and d critIcised 10 sq om ef f t ow allt d Mm blue hi p by br In some riser they thea the w r from Moron Mormon hurh after r the tbt death Ih of ot the M r PrO l lAt At the tM dote close ef of th tM the Curtis and EI U to thu Ib audience the moderator thank all sll connected with choir ant and In th the Meeting and Ind nd w vol IU adt M by br BW Elder r hickman till thu derwood 1 wa was 1 by b Van |
