Show Caprlvl Opens the Debate on the Commercial Treaties BERLIN Dec 10In the reichstag today Chancellor von Caprivi opened the debate on the new commercial treaties making a strong appeal in favor of their adoption He dwelt upon tho faot that the present import nnd export relations would ruin both employers and employees The measures meas-ures under discussion were necessary to preserve Germanys husbandry and commerce com-merce Continuinl the chancellor said the immediate im-mediate effect of tho treaties upon the finances of the empire would be a diminution diminu-tion of the revenue of nearly 18000000 marks This was a matter that required budget consideration Speaking on ino question of differential treatment of countries coun-tries not included in the treaties be said it was needless to speak of Russia The lamentable l distress in that country would not be removed for some time and It was useless to discuss what would be done afterwards As regards the United States tho two governments had decided to continue con-tinue on the basis of the arrangement of 1SS5 whereby the United States received the most favored nation treatment In tc naton connection with the alleged distress in Germany he said the agriculture of the country could very well bear without risk a reduction in the tariff rate of one and a half marks In the matter of wine it had been the aim to compel charp competition against artificial wines schnapps and socalled French clarets so as to provide on German soil abettor a-bettor field for Italian wines against those of France A reduction in the duties on the necessaries of life was of advantage to the working people Adverting to the McKinley law the chancellor said We wish the countries of Europe to preserve their independence against America For this purpose they must unite together The treaties just concluded will give a sure guarantee for the future Herr von Kanitz Conservative opposed the chancellors policy He regretted the gegotiatons showed they had only free trade councillors He looked forward to the ruin of German agriculturists The I chancellor responded he had been aided by some advisers that assisted Prince Bismarck Bis-marck At a meeting of the conservative members mem-bers of the reichstag i voted in favor and 254 against the treaties Herr Kardaff read a telegram stating Bismarck did not intend to appear during the debate |