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Show r r Lakeside rf" ,i ?V'v - I ' S? I ' t W!- s V- - vfti'-- - ,', - ' ' V' V V 1 - " ( x 'O : i'OO f ;p 'V t i .V. ;J, ' ; I Andra Batie Virginia Bourgeous Wayne Bodily ; Michael Jenkins ... - ' vfc. .. ili ' WMM 4 J two-thir- ds how people who burn the flag can say making it illegal would take away their freedom. I am in the military and the flag stands for freedom. I know it is in the Constitution, but it should be illegal. We shouldnt even want to bum it. I Virginia Bourgeous, Syracuse think we need an amendment to that law. We ought to have some things in this world that we feel good about and if not the flag, what? It is a symbol of freedom. Those people who bum the flag are in the same category as pomographers if you ask me. I fail to See Wayne Bodily, Layton what kind of freedom of speech burning the flag is. There is a proper way to burn the flag, like if it has become soiled or old. You shouldnt be able to bum it just because Lakeside Review, Tuesday, June 19, 1990 3 :; Veiv- - of profanity in music Lillian Redford youre radical. You shouldnt be able to desecrate the flag because of what it stands for. Youre Street talk jp. Issues like flag burning, the use lyrics, and : What do you think of flag burning? One of the most heated and emotional issues in America right now is the ruling by the Supreme Couft that allows desecration ' of the American flag. President George Bush has spoken out repeatedly against flag burning and many polls show most Americans agree with the president. A year ago, the high court ruled the 50 states could not ban flag desecration. Last Monday the court overturned the federal statue barring flag mutilation, saying it violated the right to free speech. Bush has encouraged Congress to pass a constitutional amendment restoring special protection to the flag by the 4th of July. The measure would have to win majorities in both the House and Senate and approval in 38 state legislatures. The Lakeside Review in random interviews asked area residents what they think of the ruling allowing flag desecration. I am fighting Andra Batie, Layton for what that flag stands for. I dont see lT7'1 Trust Supreme Courts decision ' J'tfdLn : 'fi '0t )'r 0 . , . T Opinion 4 if, IT desecrating what it means to everyone. I dont Michael Jenkins, Layton should be lethe that flag agree desecrating gal. Something as important as the flag should be protected. It means a lot to some people. I served in the Army and I had to defend it so it is really emotional with me. I see both sides, but if you really love this country you wouldnt even want to desecrate the flag. I dont think Lillian Redford, Layton shows the flag) (burning respect to it or what it stands for. It should be illegal if it is going to be done maliciously. The flag is what we fought for. We need to protect it and what it stands for. I think if it is old or shabby then it can be burned properly like it used to be. -- government funding of obscene art are easy for people to understand. Issues like the savings and loan industry bailout, the deficit and giving favored trade status to China, arent so easy. It is no wonder that politicians chose to make flowery speeches on banning flag burning at conventions and luncheons, while ignoring how much taxpayers are going to have to put out to rescue the S&Ls. But which issues affect us more? It is not a coincidence that as the estimates grow on how much its is going to take to keep the S&Ls solvent, it becomes harder to read the Presidents lips. We now find ourselves in the midst of politics of distraction. While politicians openly debate the merits of banning flag burning and obscene music lyrics from the floor of the congressional chambers, the hallways and smoke-fille- d rooms are where are debating the real issues they and striking deals. Actually, even the issue of flag burning has become confused in rhetoric. While most polls indicate that Americans are opposed to flag burning, if you rephrased the question and asked How do you feel about changing the U.S. Constitution? the responses will be Heck no, leave the Constitution alone; Dont mess with the Constitution; or That divinely inspired document has survived this long ... But that is what will need to be done to prohibit the desecration of Old Glory. I dont think anyone of consequence is in favor of flag burning. Many conservatives are divided on this issue. Some dont think a constitutional amend- - point Andy Howell Davis County editor ment banning the desecration of the Flag is a good idea. The Flag is a symbol of all the things that make this country great, and a few freaks who choose to burn The Stars and Stripes arent going to change that. Actually, I dont think we had much of a problem with flag burning until we started talking about prohibiting it. But while Americans will hotly debate an issue on how far freedom of speech should go in our country, we dont seem to care about how the subject is treated abroad. While Eastern Europe makes progress toward democracy, what nation receives favored trade sta- tus from us? China, a country that violently surpressed a democracy movement just over a year ago. There wasnt much debate in this country over that action. Maybe we are choosing to emulate China; if someone burns the flag in that country, they lock them up and throw away the key. When it comes to issues involving freedom of speech and how far we should go in regulating it, I tend to trust the judgment of nine legal scholars who dont have to worry about getting every couple of years. The Supreme Court has done a pretty good job of interpeting the will of the founders of our nation for more than 200 years, and I dont think we should change that. Lakeside letter policy outlined The Lakeside Review en- Lakeside Review editorial courages readers to submit staff. letters to the editor. Letters will also be edited, if Content of letters should necessary, to meet journalistic address issues of interest to standards of good taste. our readership throughout Libelous material will be north Davis County. deleted. With few exceptions, Letters should be typed, letters must be accompanied double-spaceand must inby the writers name when clude the name and telephone published. number of the writer. Send all letters to the LakeShorter letters are more side Review, 2146 N. Main, likely to be published. Long letters will be subject Layton, Ut., 84041. Hours are to editing at the discretion of 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. d, Letters Davis officials track record not admirable : ; I would like to respond to is Lou-- borrowed money. Maybe your taxes have not risen or maybe you dont own property. But when I protested the raise in my property taxes last summer, I was told that my taxes on the jail bond alone, would be raised for the next five years. Apparently you did not attend the public hearings on the budget last December. Over the protests of Commissioner Lawrence, the other two commissioners succeeded in raising our taxes over 18 percent. est-fre- e ; McGoys letter in the dated May 28, Stan- - dard-Examirt- 1990. I do not know where Mr. McGoy got his information from, he has not looked at Com-- l' missioner Peters record in Davis ; County, by attending the meetings twice a week - for over one year as I have done. Commissioner Peters actually -- served only 72 years as chief He spent only -- deputy sheriff. about 19 years in law enforce-;'men- t, including his four years as I- - corn-emissi- on If awarded the contract for the building of the jail, before all on the engineering drawings and specs were complete, is efficiency ; sheriff. in county government, I fail to ; Now that he is returning to law see it. Did you know after the jail 'enforcement by serving on the was started, they had to make ex- Parole Board, I hope they will put pensive changes, because even all a stop to his pension and that he the floor drains and plumbing of ;will not be allowed to draw a was shown on the drawings? Did pension for the 3Vi years as com-- ; know they added in the inmissioner until he retires from all you clusion of a heliport after the public service. contract was awarded? Did you p I guess it did take a skill to go know they had to move some - to all of the employees of Davis beams, after they very important - County and ask them not to in were to install a skyplace, just in any way with Commis--sionin the county attorneys seclight Lawrence or Auditor retaries office? Did you see in Kennington. But it is a skill, I the papers, where they are now p would not call admirable. another $85,000 to enspending -I have not been able to find the kitchen of the new jail? large '. anyone who knows about any - successful business in which he No, Mr. McGoy, I cannot -- could have gained expertise, to agree with you that Commission-- run the county. Yes, he con-- . er Peters has been a talented and ; vinced the county to issue tax an- -' able public service for Davis : ticipation notes, not once but County. Just common sense, tells twice in 1989. But the argument us the engineering drawings and he used in commission meetings, specs should have been fully - was that they needed the money completed and studied thoroughto run the county. If they needed ly before anyone was awarded a - it and spent it, then how could it contract for the jail. Furthermore, ; earn $100,000, in interest? You they employed a project manager also failed to mention how much to supervise the building of the - interest the county had to pay for jail complex, at a huge salary, yet, those tax anticipation notes. I they had to hire inspectors for the ' know no bank allowed him inter various parts such as sewer. I- co-ope- rate er : plumbing, Pearl Wendel Bountiful Farmington Pond should bo kept open Utahns recently have adopted the motto that says Utah, a pretty, great state. It seems that Davis County and Farmington City are trying to stray a bit from that with their consideration of clos- ing Farmington Pond. Farmington Pond is an asset to the community and county. Ac- cording to the complicated for- mula that the governor uses to estimate revenue, that pond generates over $190,000 a year to the states economy for a $10,000 a year investment. That of course is monetary. How do you put a price on pleasure and enjoyment? How much money is a smile worth on a little boy or girl with a fish on the end of a fishing pole? How do you put a price on an elderly persons piece of mind, knowing that they wont have to travel an hour to wet a line? Lets keep the pond open. Twenty-fou- r percent of the users are from outside of Davis County; so what, thats good; 76 percent are Davis County residents. A father taking his family after work to the local fishing hole YAH, Farmingtons a pretty great sent You are not being true Christians when the two of you can only make insulting remarks about a Democrat, whom we as residents of Davis County have no control over as to whether he gets I attended the convention to hear the views and opinions of the various candidates on the im- town! Gary DeJong Davis County Wildlife Federation Farmington I-- - County Republican Convention, on May 12, 1990. 1 was just a itor and not a delegate. But I have never been so embarrassed and humiliated as I was when Congressman Jim Hansen got up and ran down Wayne Owens like he did. Especially when Whoever baptized he said, Wayne Owens didnt hold him down long enough. To me, for a congressman representing me in Washington, D.C for five terms, it was very uncouth, crude, and very ignorant for him to do so. Then for you as our Governor to get up and endorse Jim, and add your own insulting words about Wayne Owens, was just as bad. His opponent, William Dub Lawrence has informed me that he has heard the same statements at every county convention, where the three of you were pre- electricity, etc. Officials remarks at convention insulting Dear Governor Bangerter, attended my first Davis I f . portant issues facing Davis County. I did not appreciate hearing a tirade of insulting remarks about a person who does not represent the people of Davis County. I feel both of you owe the people in Jim Hansens district an apology, if that is all you could speak about the various conventions. It was very evident that you failed to discuss the very controversial issue of the Wasatch Variation Pipeline, which you both support having it go through the heaviest populated parts of the state. Miss Pearl Wendel Bountiful expenses. Since when does it take Money, time wasted in training program Trujillo said in his letter the work load had been canceled. But when asked over the phone, he reversed himself and said the work was actually still there, but 200 base employees were going to be retrained to do the work. And guess who was going to train the DAVC. them He said the decision to cancel the jobs was a sudden one. Does this mean HAFBs top people dont know even one week ahead of time that theyre going to be moving 200 employees around? If so, they are very poor planners. If there are so many budget cuts, why did they approach the DAVC in the first place to train all these people? Mr. Shell said I should feel fortunate because the last group of people who trained for pneudrau-lic- s jobs at Hill Air Force had to pay $2,000 for 10 months of training, and only 20 out of 90 of them actually got jobs! The sad part is, this goof on the part of HAFB and DAVC hurt the very people these programs are supposed to help the most. For Mr. Shell and Mr. Trujillo, $45 is probably just a drop in the bucket But for the people who shelled it out, it meant groceries for a week, paying the light bill for the month, or several pairs of shoes for their kids. It meant taking time off work and losing their wages. The DAVC and HAFB should be accountable for their actions and pay back the money that they were paid on good faith. Kim Phillips I read with interest recent quotes by Sheryl Allen, Davis Area Vocational Centers PR person, in the Lakeside Review: Our strength is in our placement programs... We have an obligation to train people for jobs and to be sensitive to the job market. dont think the 100 or so who each paid last month people the DAVC $45 for training for nonexistent Hill Air Force Base jobs, would agree. About 150 people, mainly with I low incomes who lack skills to g job, first had to get a and $15 spend 22 hours takpay ing a test. Then those that were told they passed had to pay another $30 and gave up five afternoons in learning how to fill out job applications and be interviewed. Then they had to take more time to go though an interview by Hill Air Force Base, and wait over a week to find out if they had been accepted. But instead of an acceptance or rejection letter, they received a notice from Hill Air Force Bases director of personnel saying sorry, there are no jobs after all! In talking to Jack Shell, the DAVC director, he said, Well, we never guaranteed anybody a job. But what about guaranteeing NOBODY a job? He said the base suddenly decided they didnt need to hire anybody, and said the $45 could not be refunded because the amount didn't cover the DAVCs good-payin- $4,500 to watch people take a test for three hours, and teach a class? 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