Show DISCOURSE by president joseph young bowery wednesday afternoon april 8 neoe RETORTED TED BY J V LONG lod I 1 I 1 I 1 I 1 suppose that if I 1 can make you hear who are away at the back side of this vast congregation that those between heie here and there will be able to hear also bui bul feir fear that it will be a difficult task 1 I am a policeman or in other words I 1 profess to a peacemaker and I 1 believe thi thie is the calling ofa of a einan eihan consequently when I 1 see eee any difficulty or tro trouble troubie uble ubie betwixt any two of my brethren or any two of my fellow creatures if my interfere interference lim is solicited I 1 feel called upon to make peace bace and to reconcile the parties awn if f therefore I 1 see gee any difficulties in this city if I 1 see any abuse practiced practised upon a fellow citizen I 1 feel called upon pon pou to 0 interfere this is in me it is all an inhere inherent hi ht prin ciple aiple ia iti me I 1 cannot cast it out I 1 love to see the he rights of my brethren and sisters maintained that hat is my disposition exactly 1 I 1 endorse what br B brigham has said I 1 do it with all my heart and I 1 do know as br john observed served ib this morning that tile the revelations of jesus fesus christ are accompanied with good common sense I 1 have never seen any but what were the best est sense that I 1 have ever seen manifested I 1 am a member of this institution which has heen been een spoken of called the carrying company I 1 am one of those men and I 1 feel interested in it but says one have you got an investment there yes I 1 have not exactly in dollars and cents but I 1 have got my falth faith and good will there and then iroil yoli can put with that all that I 1 have oil on this earth and md if you dont believe it try me roe it if is all oil on hand I 1 am not only for this but for every other investment and scheme which is made through the proper channel for I 1 feel that I 1 belong to this church and kingdom if I 1 do not I 1 know not where I 1 belong I 1 am a citizen of this planet and I 1 do not know that I 1 have ever done anything iny thing to forfeit my citizenship zen ship I 1 feel that I 1 have an inheritance in lil these chambers of effle th e mountains and I 1 have never forfeited that before this body of people do this peo people peole le inherit tiie tha blessings promised they do sone some are afraid lo 10 flunt plant and to build for fear we should not stay here long enough to eat and inhabit will I 1 plant an orchard yes sir I 1 will to what extent will 1 improve improved 7 to as great reat an extent as I 1 should if knew that I 1 were to be a citizen of this territory through all generations I 1 would plant as much as I 1 should want if I 1 knew that eliat I 1 and my posterity were to live here bere till the ilia last trumpet shall sound H G C kimball they thay will if they have a mind to for there are no devils who can drive them away from here if they do right I 1 will never cease my exertions here but 1 I will do all that 1 can to beautify the place I 1 have done my best to do so according to my means I 1 have planted my grape cuttings and I 1 have eaten some fruit I 1 have pla pia planted my peach orchard and have eaten the fruit thereof and I 1 rejoice to see improvements amone among among this people I 1 ha had d the pleasure of planting some three pecks of apple seeds in nauvoo thinking thin thinking kino kina they would be useful to somebody and 1 I believe the tha trees are there now that grew rew yew from those seeds yes there M are orchards and vineyards th an and they thel the will stand there as proofs that this people have been an industrious people why I 1 tell you my brethren and sisters it is one of the krea greatest test follies for men to say that they will not improve because they are not goin going to sta stay here I 1 will build as good a place as I 1 feel ai I 1 lied nee uee d here herje and I 1 will say some something thing lhing else I 1 would like to see the temple of the lord built hullt uil uli tand and I 1 feel that if it is his will that I 1 should live I 1 will vill do what I 1 can towards building that temple for I 1 want to se see 9 it reared brethren let us rear that temple give into tile the hands of those who ho manage ag e the affairs of the kingdom all the means that we can so that the work may be accomplished speedily pe edily and that we may have a renewal of our endowments I 1 why say sone the endowments are going 0 on 11 that thatis is true a portion of ftc gge he endowments areg are going on but there are other things that never will until the temple templo is is built of wiil will which c h are the baptism for the dead and dur our end ond endowments ow ment by proxy for our dead friends are they going on no will they before that house I 1 is S built julit no not that I 1 know of that is one ona sermon there is another thing who is there that feels feela generous towards howardi that man who has gono gone beyond the vail who is gone where ho he cannot do anything for himself 7 1 L tell you I 1 want to see that spirit amono amona among tile the brethren suppose therefore we ket et rid of of some of our selfishness and be willing if proper to take the wife of some faithful brother who has passed behind the vail and raise up poste rit rii him if we can do this in connection with withy other duties which we have to perform vve ive weT shall be doing good for others ers as well as for ourselves what do the scriptures say there therb is is no work nor device nor know kaow eledge nor wisdom wis doin doln in the grave whither those boest 1 no there is no device here for forso torso so says br Brig brigham liam llam the prophet he says that all the endowments have to be given on this side the vail vall or they never will be given pres pres prea B young thatis that js true I 1 ican lean call cali say when I 1 see what there is to do the tha mighty work that has to be performed for the living and the dead the responsibility is great who can estimate iti it and good order has got to be observed in regard to this eternal inheritance which chichis is in store for the faithful for willient wll wil hout hoat out ont it all are perishing but batby by the gospel and its power there is hii an eternal endurance and we have hava had some foretaste of a few things that are in reserve for the faithful saints I 1 feel as br brigham says that I 1 want to see seo hat that temple built did you ever sit down and meditate when nhen all was quiet when the tha spirit of serenity seemed to fill the whole house and when it seemed as if there was some messenger there if you have although you dla did not see hi him lm there was a me messenger there there was a good spirit present As you continue to contemplate upon tile the dead deai dead you say how ibish I 1 wish I 1 could do som tom something ething for the redemption of the dead you could not bear to behold that messenger who whispers in your ears and invites you to be active act ivein in doing a work for your dead friends that messenger will inspire you with 6 a desire to do something for those who have passed behind the vail every man that has the spirit of philanthropy feels that he is willing to do anything for the great and glorious work of redeeming and exalting dead you are also anxious to te enter into the carrying company to gather the saints whose faith is in our god and whose eyes are turned towards br Brig bilg brigham harri harrl who is tiie the head of the church and kingdom upon tile tha earth to him tiia ilia tasy look for their deliverance from the ahral dom aill aria and oppress sion of the word I 1 I 1 now want to preach a sermon to the home horns missionaries I 1 do not want vant to hear bear them preach too jong long sermons neither when they are out in a the country nor anywhere else I 1 should like to have them preach as long ai as the subject before them is interesting and so long as the spirit of tho the lord is feeding the tha flock of christ jesus atone at one time lime addressed himself to peter and said sald peter do you love me map yes was the reply well then feed my sheep and again jesus interrogated him jn in the same manner and peter answered in fa the affirmative then said jesus simon peter son ol 01 jonas lovest thou mav me peter answered lord thou all things and thou thoa that I 1 love thee 2 jesus replied feed my lamba la mobs robs I 1 believe in this doctrine when can feed the people it is all right for them to continue their discourses but when tile tho spirit is be becoming conling d dull duil uli all and is declining or in a other words when the pond ia is run out then is the time to stop for this gril grinding iding by hand I 1 do not believe in I 1 know that some preach the everlasting gospel and th that thit at is a good thing but I 1 believe that a man can preach it in five minutes I 1 love short sermons and when wilen I 1 lvin ivin am in the country at conference and other meetings I 1 feel that they are particularly good and I 1 rejoice so long as the eiders Elders Elder feed the people but when the spirit ceases to operate through aa a man I 1 want him to sit down it makes makes me think of a scotchman who when lie was a preceptor in all an academy was required to give lectures at certain periods accord to the regulations of the institution on oil one occasion lie he ald said aid I will give you the following lecture never speak but when you yon have something to say and always stop when you get th through 1 1 do loveto love iove to hear men talk good talk as the indians say it is the best and the sweetest music I 1 ever hear 1 I wont even except hr br smithies big fiddle tile the music of the human voice is ia sweeter to me than that of of any stringed instrument I 1 do not care caro how illiterate the man ia is who speaks although learning is very good yet if he je speaks by the inspiration of tile the holy ghost that is what I 1 like to hear br william kimball could not have told me his f feelings eeling gs better than I 1 knew them for I 1 understood hat he felt just as he described I 1 cao cap can tell you that I 1 bould would rather hear a few words dictated by tb the spirit eSpirit of god than hear bear a long iong sermon delivered without the dictation of 0 that spirit I 1 am for the building of 0 the tern temple tempie e for the express and carrying company and ahe the gathering the saints from all nations and if I 1 had ten tea thousand dollars I 1 would invest it in such enter prizes a aa 9 these I 1 have haive one boy going to england this I 1 b have ave are another in the printing office and that leaves me almost entirely alone yet I 1 feel to say hallelujah hallein ballein in la Egland I 1 am glad that my son seymour is going to england for J I 1 know it will do him good lie he is is filled with the spirit of preaching already I 1 can tell you my friends it is very pleasing to me to know that rily iby children are advancing in knowledge and usefulness and I 1 sometimes hear them talk after the they y return from meet meeting ipg somewhat as follows who preached tonight to night the lithe bishop who cusep else eise cro 0 br clinton and br wheelock and they seem to think think that all the speakers talked so well that it would be hard to tell who has talked the best now do you not see my friends that these t boys children I 1 may call them have gota got a relish for the spirit and power of god my little girls also go to meeting in their turn turns s and they will in inquire qu ire lre of each other who preached if the answer be that the bishop preached oi or any other man roan the next ques question jion lion generally is did he preach well weil 10 0 yes the reply is he talked first fust rate and I 1 find billat illat that they are fil ledwith the spirit of animation and of the gospel of jesus christ I 1 have not heard them he in say dance the past winf wint winter winfer er I 1 do not discard the practice of dancing therefore f ore do not misunderstand land tand me for mormonism or the gospel of jesus christ embraces all that is is good goodard goo dand and dancing is it a scriptural precedent and it is sald said said sald that they should goforth golforth in the last days in the dance well upon this tin s principle we believe belie ile in ancin dancing and a certain portion of it is useful to the ii limbs g b s and to the joints and to the spirits as well but zut notwithstanding all this wherever there is too much of any ny one thing it very naturally produces a reaction and consequently there is a suspension of dancing for the present ii if our children do not dance wh enthey are young the sprightliness the vigor and activity of youth is in a manner checked imy aly father when when I 1 was a boy would not allow me to geve vent to the life ilfe arld arid vigor that thu were iame in me and now if I 1 were to give way to my feelings at times I 1 should dance too much prest 11 C nin Min kimball ball bail you would dance ethe the bones out of joint I 1 suppose supposed 3 liw lim it is not necessary that you should dance elthe the whole of this ibis spirit out of you at once for if you do you will have none left and consequently no dispo disposition to dance any more I 1 thought laef w winter at t that at the people would tire them themselves selve seive s dancing when the driftwood was taken away and the course was clear they danced as it if they were never goin oina to stop I 1 felt feit t glad yesterday to hear what was said by br brigham and d also by othe others rs who addressed us and I 1 felt so well that I 1 could have danced this is the tha way I 1 feel a great deal of the time As I 1 observed my father checked the stream of diversion inus in us and would not allow his boys to dance at all and probably that is the reason why I 1 feel so much like it now it is natural for ofir our children childr rn to love the gospel for religion is a natural thing it is perfectly natural you may hakea take a child and just t as ag as you can put plat it in possession of dorace doctrine that child cho aw will love lov eth the e gospel of jesus jl asu s christ 1 only let it understand right f from wrong and thene there will ivill be nothing but the gospel in that ibold child if beset we set a r proper example before our sons and daue daug daughters gaiters oil gli the gospe gospel will be manifested through all their actions and there will be no evil desire in them I 1 want to know the bounds of my prerogatives in the priesthood and never want to go beyond those bounds I 1 prest B young I 1 shall I 1 give them to you youa yes I 1 want to know them if is better for a mah man nan to run a little behind the line than to have him go 0 be before it I 1 know there thene are some things that I 1 can hayand say and ond do and there are things that br brigham can say and do that I 1 cannot if it is is not my prerogative here are br brigham br heber and br wells the first presidency then thin there are the twelve then right behind them come the seventies and tile the high Priests two mighty bodies of men whose business it is to act under the direction of the two first quorums quorum qu z then come the elders priests Tea teachers Flers andru acobs who constitute the organization of the priesthood in the church and who wiio to assist in in preparing the way for jesus to come we are all who wild magnify their calling anat priesthood trying to prepare a pe people ogie ogle for his coming tl to purge out those that are filthy jand and to put away every evil and wrong from us and to prepare for the greater weight gh of glory that is to come in order to do 0 this we we are under the necessity of chastising and the greatest proof to me that there is is a man standing at the head heid who holds comma nion dion with god is is to see men receive crasti chastisement ement in the spirit of humility W without a murmur and be 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