Show WA fri kJ t e il J t il Bill 4 S Senator Nel Nelson on Favors Alliance With England and Japan BY HALl HALLS S j r rJ rD J D PUT IN IN A A HOLE LEBY EY K S n I senate to day sed the bills J land laws rein j tle tive to surveys 0 th the la lai pr the h i of o double allotments J Authorizing the tb an t the aiM I areas of hygiene to t meet at Wa In 1909 I Mr Cullom presented the rort of C the conference committee on and judicIal suon on bill biJl and it was as agreed agte d to The naval rI Uon tion lU was ink tak takI inken I en up and the discussion Immediately took on a political aspect Mr Cla Clay i 1 took issue with the he contentions ot of otI I Mestre Lodge and 00 Pe Depew ew a as to the ne necessity i Cora for a st strong ong sea sen force Core to tc keep the United States out of war I Mr Clay also aiso cont that there hould be a congressional to Investigate in ithe the depart tn meats SayIng no bu n would let Involving I drift al along ng as o was doing Policy Criticised I H He criticised th policy that led t to the of for war var dud ref eed to public buildings iii aShin n th that at save re ear Mr Ir Martin MarUn n a member of the the ommittee on n naval a al d defended fenden tao i We e have a a stron nM he said and he d th the recent EX cx EXpansion pan sion United States te as fUrnish Lug the roos reason n lie He referred to tb th the possibility or of France and Great Britain b Jag draWn into thE Oriental War r because M of th theIr ir respective alliance with Russia and Japan and while he i did id not believe bellee that th the United States s become in involved he did not it the thc of oC wisdom to be unprepared Depew on Expansion Mr Depew spoke of f the p or of ox ax and Mr Ir Patterson Inquired whether he meant that further aggrandizement through conquest or purchase ase of foreign t be the pro gramme of f this hI I do not think we will ever eer see the time when we will need more saId Mr Ir Depew b but t r I do think we get a merchant marine some time and I mean that want a navy big to protect it that I hope Secretary Hays Has for forI foran an open door in Chiri will be a pOlicy of this government and that I we should have bae a navy big enough to enforce It Depew on Expansion Mr Ir predIcted that in the end Mr 1 Chamberlain would succeed in the laid out by him in Great BritaIn Other Euro ean nations would be found taking steps to protect them themselves sel selves against us us and a naY navy would be ben n needed eded He said that whichever sIde wa wap us itt in the eastern war the United tats states must be t d and bits e 0 n fl b vi her ner Interests c n d be divided up A great navy would be necessary at such a time I Replying to Mr Ir Patterson he said mid h he did not think it would be necessary to go to towar war to maintaIn our interests in the Why are the other powers now accepting a very unpopular note from us lie he asked Mr Patterson cal to the report that the note to Ruia and Japan had been incited by Ger Germany nan Alliance Hinted At Mr Nelson replied to Pattersons questions concerning our our naval enee ence In the east ro saying Ing that with this countI Great Britain and n alt all united In support of an open door In hi Chinn there was no danger of the dis dismemberment or of China All too were I hostile to the absorptIon of Manchuria Hp He did not believe there ther was any formal alliance aliance only mutuality of Mr Hale protested that this debate was ns extraneous uI I do riot not want the statement of the senator from ta to go unchallenged he said Bald I 1 do dot donot t not agree C that there is today any such I common interest between the United States Great Britain and Japan on the theone one side against Russia Pran France e and andI other powers as his statement Implies I Our attitude Is on one of neutrality and so declared b by our tate state department Hale Was Vehement The statement that we have a com coat common mon interest with Japan and Great Britain as to Manchuria I cant let gO gb without a ment Ye We are not against Japar n nOr r must It bp be said mid that aU all our interests are wIth her het and against Russia and other continental European powers He said that it If Japan should mould find herself successful in her present war the United States would find herself in more danger In commercial matters from that ambi ambitious power any other He Hale considered the Oriental trade as of oC com coat comparative lIttle importance If we had hadnot not been Involved with the predatory nations in invading ChIns even een the Chinese Boxers hae hui e protected our interests in China He was not In favor of any pOlicy that InVolved Us In the in the en rm us wick wickedneSs edneSs of these far away from Our shores Hay Had a Revelation Resuming Iris his speech Mr r Depew de flied that the Ha Hay note had been in inspired inspired by J He spoke or of it as asa n a revelation and said that the Denver News must h have c direct lf Marconi corn oom with the palace lt at Potsdam Mr r Patterson replied that th the state statement ment had been carried by the nt ateI d Press PreB as Mi lr Depew Depe should have known If a general reader of the news f Continuing Mr 11 Depew said that hat Mr Nelson elson openly had expressed his 1119 par for while Mr 11 Hale al almost almost most as plainly had indicated his lean leanIng tag Ing toward Russia As for Mr Ir Patter Palter Patterson son he had ted the usual tendency toward expediency by standing ready to take of tile the situation whIchever er side sWe might win H He agreed wIth Mr r Hull Hale ne as to the wisdom of Mr Hilles attitude but he said the fact remains that every man woman and child chUd in the United StateS is lined Une upon one side or orthe orthe the other as as the they are whenever is 19 a fight lie He added tire pr sl dents announces our or of tidal cial attitude e but said that behind we ive can say y what we wc please C US individuals Defended Mr 1 Depew defended Ire ident Roo volt against the charge of impetuosity and r recklessness saying he har ha had the disposition to m o trouble he could have found It In the Canadian dispute A l les ss mun would have seen and seIzed th tb opportunity to ap apul ul to the l nt lie he said bald Instead of doing this the had appealed paled to arbitration and nd p iw of the resolution e lasting dt dett bt of rail i lm Il al dl Mr D Depta t stud sud le had becu ii r J to R lan lanIgo thi Igo and that In those gL ea JUt had 1 pro m Ii s Eur T h 1 ln In th the la laGOO latt GOO y are Jr if bait het With Russia was as to be on on the land Japan would b nowhere bUt the fight must be on th sea and the re could not be fore I told 1 S SHale Hale Congratulated Mr lr Cormen t i Mr Hale on his conduct or of naval l tIon in Inthe the thc senate He reviewed tr tie growth of cf the nay navy saying that when Ii r L ney took charge of the depart department department ment it was in very bud bad condition but bu notwithstanding th the Republicans were in th thc in the senate It had hadnot hadnot not been necessary to make a second appeal either to Mr Halo Hale ot of Mr Alit son Up to the present time there had bad lines As AI for himself lf he always hail had expressed sed his sentIments freely freeh without regard to party part He criticized Mr r Moody its tas Imprudent In the Demo DemoS S rat f party part with partisanship because l of his Mr Gorman attitude lie He Iia ha I Ir fot foi himself in saying the ad I r was advancing t tOo o vapidly md and had gone too far In the Increase or of orthe the nay navy Executive said I Mr Gorman slowly and with I II emp emphasis would serve their thel country I better Jetter it If they attended to the details of their offices and abstained front from critic criticisms isms of senators and aad members ot of con coa 1 gress I I Lodge d e Criticised Mr Ir German nen llis alte attention I to the statement of Mr Lodge that a largE navy was a conservator of peace sayIn that this declaration was eon con contrary to the of the f fathers He differed from Mr Lodge in conid ering this an aggressive nation He hoped the time would soon come when the people would to the Demo an doctrine that our was not measured by the num Dum her or of gunt afloat nor by tIle the number DumLer of uniforms we had He would not ba have a or a Democratic na nary but an American navy and he would have the credit given to the men who vho fight the battles battle fiS as was done In Inthe Inthe the ease oase of Perry and not have them sent to the rear and humiliated for forti ti their very vey hI It we were at nar iVar said Mr Ir Gor Gorman roan man U if our cot merce were threat threatened threatened ened by war wal we Would g give e the tary or of the navy aU all that he could coul spend n But aU all the countrY knows that these billions s have donE doni more to demoralize than otherwise I Extravagance had been the inevitable result and a war with Spain Involving I only two days In motion had c cart t the country a 3 billion dollars He had no noI I 6 sympathy with any movement against China No matter what nation ml might ht secure supremacy in that country the thc United States would secure its share of the commerce He Hc said that ever every American had gloried tn in the part taken b by the tho United States in the Boxer up uprising uprising rising and that if that example to be followed it would do more than any number of ships to Improve our commerce Put Dep w n a 3 Hole Eole Mr tr Carmack referred to Mr defense of the retention of the Philip Philippines PhIlIppines pines and quoted a previous utterance b by that senator taking an opposite po positIon Mr Depew rose saying That Chauncey Chaunce Depew i dead I was not then a senator b bUt t sImply a New Yorker making speeches almost every ever night and giVing very little thought to them After studying the Question he had changed his views He originally had been a Democrat and his fit first impressions w were re generally Democratic The difference the senators position then and now replied Mr Carmack is that not being a senator he was consi considering the case as a 1 pa patriot a triot and had bad not taken the c case se as a I crIminal lawyer to defend the lican party part S Mr agreed with Mr Hate Hale 1 that if ChIna should fall faU under the do dominion dominion minion of Japan It would be VerY I doubtful whether the United States I would derive an advantage from it Mr Carmack read an front from a newspaper sa saying had been ox ex expended for the purpose of keeping the two pleasure yachts yach the Mayflower and the lph in condition for the presidents presidents dents use This he be contended wn was a mIsappropriation Nelson Defended Himself Ill Mr Nelson took the floor to reply to Mr Hale who he said had taken him to task for violating the principles of because he had said that our commercial interests were common common to those of Japan And lie he went on in iii the same breath In which he criticised mc ma he c called attention to the danger our commerce was in from ambitious Japan I submIt that if there was any violation tf Jf the principles of neutrality on m my part there was wa an equally marked violation b by him Mi Nelson said that he had not in intended intended tended to imply that the United States should not take any other than a nan neu neutral position In the Oriental war for he held heid no such position He did con contend tend however that we should take aU all proper stops to protect our commerce commer in tile Orient and lie ie thought the should be adequate to that service serice The amendment proposed by Mr Quarles to the committee amendment for a naval statIon on the great lakes Jakes was then taken up Mr 11 Hopkins Hopkin moved tolay it on the table That motion was ivan voted down The amendment to the thO amendment was wa accepted and the original original inal amendment as amended was wasa a agreed reed to The naval bill was then laid aside Mr Foraker gave notice that on Thursday March 31 he would a ak k the senate enate to 10 consider r resolutions of re respect respect for th the late Senator Hanna At p 1 m the senate adjourned I |