| Show 1OPEEN tfIRACLES Ministers Discuss lltht 1ork FaUl Cure I discussed faith ministers discused I be otist weeks minister ago t and yesterday th the sub thre debating res thnntwo hours twO hOUld oebntng r d up oecd S9 Murray street Many lgain at tircsent tfhe Rev George wer S believed that God lies sd ho Go I f f ° cl Ufand that He will cur the ffiprayerta eI prayr offered with faith com I i rSrfect reliance on His will 1gith nan Fox said that while many e orlnn have been wrought in l Df rto cures foJriS er ret he could not forget Mnv remarkable cures had been jt rie trrotto of Lourdes and at thtthe 1i as well as Ue Mormon ChllIJ Clia J xk Bnd 1W Bpirit mediums all of iep = 11 le repudiated The prayer S he rel hjC will be done but the ThY wi 1th IS with the people ill the prayer v b1e tutions and who want us to be titutions w Sir special gifts is that they sd Jnot so much faith in God a faith n surauce of healing kejiev R W Hartley said that he Ie JTthe desired reputation of ale M 11t He supposed that he bad not le York long enough laughter I v Ol him the Thy will b done y bordered lf too much on fatalism r an prayer does not affect God flit us the use of praying I her he-r j that God had an unalterable line down he would never on laid pray T He had lived among Mormons jIe had never seen an instance of He had seen the elders swelter the e in le and the sick died tin crease te lbeKcr grese Higgins f Staten Is j said that he had prayedwith a Enan apparently dying at Tottenville that she would be I y j was impressed tmt re to health She was M healh J Moderator J F Hughes of Green i it t doubted whether any encourage Deat should be given to modern faith re It is leading many to fanaticism ii is often presumptuous and trifles T j the Word of God I the Holy host is blessing these people in response the Word of God then they ought toe to-e capable of rightly interpreting the Ible and they are often at fault in that pect A young lady in the moderators pc went to the Greenville faith cure institution fully expecting to be healed I in with all the conditions imposed by rbem and when she remained an valid he was told that she was a very wicked nan and that for her want of faith 1 would bring His judgment on her I did believe that they could cure eu she said sobbing to 3Ir Hughes sd now it does seem from what they dme that I am not a child of God ae was a good woman he added bt she was for a long time kept in the isief that she was not a Christian ie Rev R B Montgomery of Brook Tisaid that a faith cure institution had en built up near him I the Brook newspapers it advertised wonderful ur but if other faith cures were no er than that then he believed that > fashioned prayer Thy will be j was the better A sick woman I = way from her bedside one of the Ypsicians in Brooklyn and trusted faith cure people She died three Jtenrard A man said he had rji taking medicine and he too cty the physician Soon after rJe recalled the physician begged Lrardon and died oher Motley said that the brethren red to little and read too much If e ltte 1f pstopped running after the Mormons ju Spiritualists they would perform more Ji cures Ihe Rev W H Parmly of Jersey City klthit he would like to be on both Ides of the question He knew hat i Dung lady in his church who had been liig i for a year was restored to health rtcr earnest joint prayer for her by many pyer iretliren but on the other hand modern aiuVcure advocates are often presumptuous presumptu-ous The people in charge of the institution institu-tion told one of the patients they failed tore to-re that the devil was in her while they died the other a1 sorts of names Because Be-cause she failed to get on her feet and take a walk The Rev J F Patton of Melrose said tat be wouldnt be sure that General Grants case was not one of faith cure Laughter He had found William EDge E-Dge inclined f the belief that the troubles as an ulcer of the throat and that the doctors made more of it than there was in it The Rev Mr Patton ton ever thought that it might easily b telieed that General Grants recovery I a in answer t prayers offered all over fie United States and that he would get Tell in spite of the doctors Then the Rev D T Phillips of Green point said that some of the persons who conduct faith cures are not to be relied on a sincere In fact he believed he said fiat a more unprincipled scoundrel never tame from England to work all sorts of I Dealing than that Brooklyn > Moderator Hughes rang the bell I Ely got t his feet and said To characterize any person on the floor of the conference is not in accord ace with the rules The Rev Mr Phillips I didnt men ton names The ModeratorI said any personr The Hey Mr Montgomery You are speaking of one man I of another The RevMr Phillips I mean that 1n i too Laughter Now Id like bask t Brother Hartleyliere who told Is some weeks ago that biB wife was cured by the prayer of fat what he beans by bringing her to Nev York for f health I understand that he has done that I cure by prayer is only half fire what does it amount to The Rev Mr Hartley replied that his fes life was saved by prayer and that Wasjust what he prayed for As to a complete cure he wanted it understood wat 1 he believed in the use of good < Ces and good phvsicians and that God 1ed them Anally the Rev Mr H Pogson said tt he could not Relieve entirely urf aith ii re people who exercised so muck JUtnan skill m artistic anhoutfcefnents irt n Mr per Times artstc announcelen gifts |
