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Show T way these appeals REPLY the were indeed MOSES'TMTCHEB'S were trcaed, they superfluous and unnece Stands Now Where He Always Stood. Has Hsd I known it at they wmiid nary have tieen so regarded I ufver would have made liiem i wh) imifriu they w ere appeals, ,,ot to the pnbil. but to I lies m brethren were i rb-- ot an Uh pain from a ioart raised gui-- ii 'I hey were plea for mercy praters light- - for information as to my offend Tng. Rut why shoud y ou imagine t bat that they were published to exiitc public sympathy Do. you conslJer that to be the natural result of their publication? An' appeal from one In distress, 'th jeopar&V, .,0 ' 'r'? xf Rather does It not require the drlibera lions Of a trained, skilled and diplomatic mind to close the ears and hearts of men against such appeals? You say During that interval (April to October) he was visited bv mini of his brethren, some of them apostles, and no change was effected, but he failed even to attend the October conference or to manifest a dlsp isition to conform It to the'princlples of the dr laration Is (rue that he was In poor hodili hral'h Rut he was not too during tha period til lo upbraid brethren whofrleit fo irn pres, film with flu-- danger of his po-- i m- - of hem id tinn, nor to aiiuse ha I ng blankesd thrlr consciemein s fr Tktlfktrltplln l CaBwaairallaa, CktriM ratal fcy Fmldeal NM' Metlag All lla ralal- -. Mlraag Dwiaiat. t i, V , - r ' V had been it ground I was led devoted to Broher Robert ti brief ne allotted if me the to wonder was t tie re lit of des'gn orjte ident. ha1 out of men and com You a 1 for degrading me L.htrca-o-lull1 ;i, were r.ot given at (lie April conference was benefited hi i fall to see wherein e which gave to s a i uiioassion many rumor, niystrrtou hints, dark in slnua'i-inslander and attacks, unjust allusions and unfair comparisons which have been studiously created and dis seminaled since that .Ime. Nor can I appreciate the manner in which my case presentation of v 1 ri-- , hurch has ha i a bearing on mv recently made public from the p:u arui press. I cannot say but ma v ' show its reia- . lts past and present conditions I, Irra'i in in garbled form, a tn and at it ha been told in and prlv ale, on highways and by. hnas that it i no secret. And a I am concerned there is noth-- 0I hc t from me; nor did I predict anything I whatever stated niv belief upon ., numerous to ic. but jweyilcted nothing I from the quo, d somewha' rxten-ivel- i book of revela'ton held bv us a orthodox, and a i from 'lie ot the Prophet j.mti-- Smith J was not and could not be held responsible for lung hand reports of what said, nor for tv pe written or printed slip said to have ithat I would have anybody been multiplied and circulated among g t i. u i'i himself to keep as a secret I the people. Besides it is well understood will , ndeavor to convice you, President by the Saints thst the sermons, even of Snow, that you have not been well apostles, are not regarded at doctrine For that, how- - Nevertheless, I have constantly endeav- posted on this matter. x i a fs-r- - , ri 1 priestly offices. Now, although on thi point you make a very positive charge agaln-- t' me, you may have this matter confused with the selection of a president for Cache stake, in my absence from conference in Salt Lake, from which I was cxcu-eby President Tay lor on account of illness in mi family, Elder C. O. Card was chosen stake president tosucceed Bishop Preston, who havj been called to the office he now holds-- A few days later I was informed by a member of my quorum as to the action taken In the matter of the Cache stake presidency, and my opinion was asked about it. I stated that since d of the brethren at the October confer- son ol Buitiorr Beck .sis eae- L aotoM-oii- t of harmony with the revala- Utah, December 2, ifii sen .Jaw0ud acquiesce. Later on, an eff had received assurances and shsl! not hesitate to face, willingly, my tiona of the Lord. ence. of 'the Elder Lorenxo Snow, President fort was made to remove'' Trt'sident that nothing would be par tn the affair. Here is an extract reassurances While In Mexico, in 1886, I was wrirt-teTwelve Apostles: I took, the Card, which I opposed. said affecting my case until I from our letter or done to by President Taylor and Cannon Da BaotHtx Your recent letter while Merrill was Brother for that, ground should President When trial. report myself ready George Q.'annon regarding this matter, and In written for publcation In the Deseret reply I the stronger character, I would oppose to which trsurance The he You of the decrease President' after say Taylor, stated, In substance, what I had said In News at the request of five young men removal of President Card as his aprefers were faithfully fulfilled. He was was m prison for infraction of the Lewiston. Of course I could not re- tpe of Sait Lake City demands an answer was generally known among pointment The Moses man in left claimed stau laws, average that member the exact words I had quo" from me in the intrest of fairness, friends used, but the people and his summary dismissal that to in his Cannon convince be had brother defrauded and him, I might closed my letter as follows: family and the Saints throughout the was sure to result in his Irreparable interests would not be affected by creating e threatened in the presence of Presl-i.eworld The duty is a paluful one: so Tf in your view, there Is In jury. 1 only mention this mxter be anything Woodruff concerted adverse and of by others the opinion, public twelve these remarks erroneous, contrary to re- cause there is no foundatioi for compainful. Indeed, that personal consider' and precoru e rted ac tion cm the part of t v ue him at law and thus bring many mtions would be a motive insufficient to corded revelation and history, or con- plaint In the other Incident, and you thejuors entrusted wit! his tale in pre prtv ite affairs before the public through trary to the spirit of Induce me, even on a matter so nallv have confused .he two. I cite this inspiration and him. may When 'he the on people against (our1 Only take to me judhtng emphatito and mine, being up Important in you, or, if their utterance bv as a a tribunal pronounces a man guilty and c al possible reason for your charge bewarned b President Woodruff and me was premature or imprudent, do tn cause 1 have no desire to my pen In its world the e to r quibble. a iVhi anrioiim that sucli In judgement, course, particularly I have read and re read our open Vt the kindness at your earliest con Here is another of your specific r Cannons condition, would Hro l' ha lie been left in statu quo? ter and have purposely delayed replying venience to point the same out the declarailon to him in his church 3 ou complain because I did not for a to It hoping and pray Ing that a t.- of signing and suggest the means best ealeu charges: Did ' Presided! hear ever "When Wilford Woodruffs accession on did he desist. On President Soow, you, attend mv quorum meetings a pu lated in your judgment to correct the to the right and justice tay dictate what I me say any III ng of the kind3 Whir h of tune other-ha- d i a i. ons release from v done a The time confinement presidency was under consider-a'ion- , regular! write to one holding ttie high and re the brethren did I the enclosed notic or atcuse of to w hie i he TTuvttrf was fully investigated and it same, should uphraij as the proper successor, he cover attention call tie In the you ponslble position you occupy You do - d iiionstrated that Instead of Bro-'ht- r (which, if you hlnlt best, can Be sent "blanketing hi const iem e from illness of which a expressed opinions which showed that I lingering period sent! entertain whom and for church the News for publication) be consid he not seem aware of the fact that, of all I have now almost him In Cannons he was owing recovered regarded human smartness and entirely ered Insufficient to stop the ment of profound respect, no matter the multplica business and members of the first Rut do not offer mv sickness as an ex. Broihtr Cannon's debt to an amount tion and apostles ability as abovethat simplicity circulation about me or what you may think say among the Saints of one, Apostle F 1). cuse for my absence, a you had e whiih he subsequently paid. of character and susceptibility to divine For his erroneous reports of my remarks I confess astonishment, not only at the presidency, only Richards, ever talked with me about the cused uie from all official duties during and hard language towards Bro- heretofore mentioned." impressions which are notable In that letter, but at the spirit of your commu- manifesto since the day it was The notice was apparently satisfac althful he has never apologized Cannon ther servant of God, and objected presnted a great portion of that time, advising me undera It as I have I11 for was published nication; always tory, the Des to me for my signature. True, Brothers to travel, to seek enjoyment and health. nor made any amends. This incident is eret Weekly News of December 1, 1886, '.hat such a man could not grasp the stood your disposition, your Ideas of Richards and Young called one day just situation of affairs or cope with the The charge that I have treated the eferred to in President Caunon's ab as follows: justice and your love of mercy, that as I was Any printed or written document clr difficulties arising. He was overruled leaving my residence in Salt council with contempt needs no answer sence front the state. He has always communication doet not appear to your Lake City for the depot, with guests and but a reference to the letter which preserved silence on this matter and did culated, or that may becirculated among but persisted in his views. the Saints of God as a report of any ser advantage. Lorenzo Snow, as I have we talked a few moments while the carTo my mind there never was any passed between us. I endeavored per. not wish it mentioned against Brothej mon, or part of sermon , sermons or known him during all theae years of his was waiting at the door. At an It la But In I Thatcher. of aa reriage show or of parts sermons, Important thought, any private or question about the proper successor to presidency over the quorum of apostles other time, I said to Brother John Hen sistently, patiently, and, said to have been made President Taylor. I did not' regard it remarks public Moses and Thatchers what brethascertain !ng lo spirit In my bearing spectfully, that no where, to my mind, appears by me, are unauthorized unless person as a debatable matter, for I How could you, knowing aa ren held Smith. held agaldst me what differences towardh is brethren. .bitter and acrimonious commnnlcation. ry ally revised by me, or written over my President Woodruff as the always sucIn of work do mv the church fdr a there were between us in order that you sentence no doubt The satisfies closing logical signature. And the making and clrcu Our political differences In Utah have we might arrive at quarter of a century, vote for my understanding the public as to the reason for bringing lating of any such unorthorized report Is cessor to President Taylor. I mainxinfortunately and, as I believe, unneceswhat their requirements the matter up. I am not sorry you without my sanction and without my tained this at the time and have since simply because I could not see and sarily resulted In criminations and re- my way clear to sign the manifesto? were.finally Moses Thatcher. testified to ft propriety on many occaI went to the meeting mentioned It, as it gives me an oppor- content. When criminations and the resurrection of How In the tame Issue the News comment sions. I have always held that, with could you adjudge me guilty con- place of the quorum of apostles after tunity to correct the rumor which hat since explained demn misunderstandings long ine and execute your judgment being assured by the brethren that I been welt circulated among the people. ed editorially as follows: the death of a president die the authoror settled. Before their Introduction I all within In answer to a letter written by PresiIn another column will be found a ity of hit counselors, and the a few hours and without a would be welcomed and no objection supreme never saw you turn a deaf ear to pleadHe replied: "I will not talk would be made, I found the door closed dent Woodruff on the 5th of December, notice from Eider Motet Thatcher of authority of the church It then vested In hearing? an of the for on part specifications ings with you about that, for you are too III, tn my face. From that time until my 188S, on this very topic, I wrote Decem- the council of the apostles. We direct the quorum of apostles. Upon the death Nor Is It like you to accused brother. and on that subject deposal I plead for a statement of the ber 7th, or two days later, making' the general attention to it because there has of President Taylor Wilford Woodruff, conversation Ignore my earnest, often repeated been a great deal of comment over aa the head of the will make you nervous. I then raid: following statement of my position: grievance against me, but dared not leading quorum of the for charges agalnvt me, which In conclusion you will permit tome remark attributed to him, which church, was therefore the Brother John, do you think an without Which, on my again quorum evleading offyou furnished by the column, with thati have no disposition, and never have been copied and circulated, and icer In the church. In would make me moat nervous and III, Invitation, at I had no desire to give ofmy view no one ident alacrity, for a public print In order to have the bretheren humiliate and de- fense. I was never aware that I had no have had, to take advantage of any of lately have been printed and distributed had a right to assume his authority or to gratify the apparent curiosity of five In the position in which among the saints. me by dropping me out of my It is very unfair to Issue addresses to the Latter day Saints right to apeak In public meetings until my brethren ' yung men of Salt Lake City. If, as you grade Brother Cannon wat placed, for I regret take this course unauthorized, ai.d we Ignoring him Yet an address, was isor talking about It after the deed la publlcly reprimanded for so doing; place, eay, I was not entitled to a public hear- done? Said he: I am with my breth- did not think I wat barred from the hi imprisonment, I believe, quite as consider such proceedings worthy of sued which did not design to mention ing, as my case was not a public matter, ren. as any of my brethren. Upon severe consure. Those who have print- President Woodruff or anj of the apostemple until Its door was closed (n my sincerely why did you make public charges that point I hardly think that Brother ed and distributed the alleged extracts tles. Had my name been signed to It these ill I now sav that And face. During months, weary you against me In a newspaper when you re- white friends and to attempt an entrance to the Cannon himself entertain any doubt." from a sermon delivered by Eider That- you might well accuse me of attempting physicians believed I fused to give me even an Intimation of was on the verge of the grave, I was temple." for the present, at least, there Is no need cher Ih Cache county some time ago to oppose the accession of President What coulA I have dow eem In private? to admlnlatered to once go into further details regarding Bullio- have, fn our opinion, exceeded their Woodruff, but my name wa not there. and I only by members Every move 'made wa criticised It la difficult for me to understand of n-Beck our after matters, except to correct right, and those who rely upon the If there was a contest between human nea to and teemed qnorum, condemned Invite althogh day day .by youpiave publicly accused me when made for that purpose forms of censure and humiliation 0 ur assertion that instead of Brother purported remarks as authentic and to smartness and simplicity of character engagement privately you would not; why you pre were, for reason unknown to be discussed as prophecy or doctrine for the presidency, I assure you I hivemo desire to tnc, not my quibble, but here 1s Caauon owing him, he was in Brother vented specific charges against me after I can think of no ex- may be led into error, as the report preferences were for the latter. Simdebt. And after the manifesto. was re- a Caanon's I kept. which fn to letter open your passage Instead of deposal before; why you turned to my you unsigned, none of the desire to call your attention. "It vvss planation so brief and authentic as a thus disseminated is without authority plicity of character is an ornament to o readily granted the request of the We are pleased to re any position, although it Is often subthe three mentioned, but a few of the receipt I gave him in set- of the speaker. excepting apostles, days after the October confer- copy five young men when you preslstently ever came to my house or t isited me for ence, even If It had entirely closed, be- tlement of our financial differences. It ceive the notice from Elder Thatcher servient to human smartness. refused mine; why you gratified their adc cheeeful'y give it a place in our any purpose whatever. 1 do not men- fore he appeared and spoke at public reads You make this general charge again-Curiosity, and that of the public con tion of complaint, but becolumns. Know all men these way the held thlrby still That as by he presents. mv temper or disposition: though meetings In an affair which declared you cernlng from the general tone and certain authority in which he had not been sus- 1 do hereby acknowledge the recipt from His bearing with his brethern was Subsequent to the vear 1SS6 no furthc r I was the principal party Interested.' cause, statements in your letter, you do not tained at conference; This necessitated President George Q. Cannon of an complaint was made until the appear- such that tie could not brook dissent This treatment, thladUcrlmation, Is dlffi seem la be fully acquainted with these the announcement from the first presi order signed by him and dated Aug. 5, ance of your open letter ten years latter, nd resented of his cult for me to comprehend. facts. dency through the Deseret News thst 889, on Secretary George Reynolds, and as no additional requirements were personal views. Nop can I conceive the object of those A few men holding a lesser authority he had no right to officiate in the priest for the transfer to my self of twenty-thre- made of me, I had a righ.t to believe the have always tried to be honest, careyoung brethren In asking a further ex In the church called and hundred and sixty-eigh16.63rd matter with hood while in his suspended condition. since No argued one considerate and conscientious with adjudicated. long ful, ' planatlon of the conduct of your quorum j, 368, 16 63) shares of the pooled stock at any time ever intimated to me in any and sometimes may have heard the Notwithstanding that announcement, I confess that I have had brethern. my towards me, the entire correspondence me, of the Bullion Beck and the Champion plaint of a sick man, which. It when he chose to present himself to the way that this was cherished secretly my personal views on almost every qufcs-tsoon the subject being In their possession. peevishwere I and that have revived seems, me by any of my brethren. carefully delivered and authorities he presumed to attempt en Mining company, that came up. I had thought that The Deseret News had already declared all the dividends delared and paid by said against and with which you are now trance to for that was entitled to them. Had I entertan-e- d President purpose, temple tjie is what Snow, action of me Candidly, that the officially deposing to reproach me. It appears that and at a time when the first presidency, company on the said 1,368 16 63rd shares the slightest doubt of my right in the there in all this that, in any way, can be had been Inspired, dictated authorized willing as of books the shown the by companv, that I uttered in my pain as well as the twelve, met for the con construed as a justification for the un- quorum to my openlons I would never and approved of God." Holding he every groan and weakness wat borne away and used slderation of other church matters and less one fourth or 15 per cent, on all div- kind comments News atatamenta n view, It may teem you have made upon have given the six brethern to whom you declared idends and paid, by said to poison the mind of those llving'ln for holding their praver circle the circumstances? Your statements refer, the opportunity to yote mean since Sept. 1. 188S ; the said 25 strange to many of the saints that the the I at the door of the company light against a weak and helpless myself presented are to calculated me in the esti. ask further men should reasons postleship. As it was, I protested part injure young cent having been paid, as I am brother. Salt Lake temple at n oclock a nt, per mation of many people who have read of three days before giving my consent for my disposal, and stranger still that Bullion-Becthe and CaliforIn this connection I would like to Thursday, October n, i8j6 The meet your letter and condemned me without to President Taylor. But if I ever resenyou should deem It necessary to furnish state that even before the nia Mining company. presentation ing which promulgated the announce-men- t ted the non acceptance of my views on . them. Besides, the published corresThis receipt is . intended anil shall op- remembering or having read the Desof that manifesto for my signature not In session. to wa refer then I you eret of 1SS6. News told December wa its own 1, pondence complete. It Surely any question where had been accorded one of the brethren had taken up a It wa not published In the Deseret erate as in full of ail demands and to the of and them. I do not not the forbearance would do iou mean right present patience story intentionally claims bv myself, heirs and assigns labor with me concerning any of the News until recall it. evening and wa not reYou which had been shown me. further: say injury? Cannon on matters it was made to embody. ceived bv me for at least five hour after against President Georgs Q And now I come to what appears to r The appea'rance of those letters in He disputed with President Taylor scares of account of said 2,36-I shouldhave vlgned mv return home from the You contend that You be the chief reason for mv suspension temple as to of the newspapers (and I Infer from your it of the the same shall haiV been appointment president simply and solely because other off- will not denv that these .ire facs and stock, when and subsequent disposal, viz, the politiremarks tnat the Deseret News is not and for contended a man on Logan thesecre-tarsurrender to temple transferred, icers of the church had signed It, withvet you blame me for attetiit-inencal manifesto read in the April confer-nce- . secular) was probably brought about by out hesitation and without of the company of the proper stick of his own selection, even after the presrequiring I to in trance the of an temple" disregard regard this as the main diffe the direct personal attacks of he News, time to deliberate. ident announced the said which certificate upon transfer may appontment I cannot see how announcement which had not been us because of the space ence between which has not appeared to be friendly elation. be made; and it is in full for the divithat statement adds to the credit of At no other imc did I atit In your letter, and because ou give to ineunder the present 'management. the document. Such matter The of this is matter truth as made plain dends thereon, specified therein. demand tempt entrance to the President George Q Cannon said plaln-tAnd why should I have gone to the tempV" to be reby the action of President Taylor setMoses Tn STOKER, anil because I always so fused admittance. deliberation, Elder B. If. Roberts that it was not News when Its columns were daily filled on same the uie of as'one ting apart day contend I am called contumacious and Lake i In Saif 1869. Utah, Sept. Tills City, 24, line direst witi vour (mint with misrepresentations of my conduct the counselors of the president of the right to circulate" other charges about It may he that Elder B II former statement in our obstinate. These shares, for which I had paid, origin p correand position? When it was faUrh Logan temple. President Taylor would me, as my name would not have been signed It without consideration, spondence to the effect tha', hi esase I represented a value to me at that time not have introduced discord in the tem- dropped had I signed tite manifesto, and thaul had been pledgeJ political Roberts hut I have been authoritatively informed had m,r letter of exceeding $25,0000 an amount I did ple. and had I contended against him. because a leading apostle declared that seemingly When It was support for months not feel sble and willing to lose Mv that would have been the effect. that, strorYg and healthy as he was in the Jjd of October, wa r( fused adI me a never I within three days from my refusal to forcing platform upon mind and body, several members of the mittance to the about it was natural, if not paron anxiety or constructed and attributing to me words would not have been made third officer sign I would have been brought to trial, temple And now let me call your quorum to which I belonged labored eight days before. When mild not donable. in that sacred place if I had been in had my, health permitted; also because I had had never uttered? But have ou with weeks before understand for him after to another astonishing asser- such attention day day was never publicly or privately acnot seen evert officlaL declaration from that, you tap. lined it by open rebellion a you depict. Preshe consented to accept the principle of sav No doubt the tion In your open letter of! Information ident those occupying higher positions than Ing I wa in the dark was my guest in Logan at cused of the other offenses you charge Taylor How ahsolutlsm it contain. many of same men. You say: I ever held, appear first in a secular pain regard to the young explanation will the time the president of Logan temple until after Its presentation for mv slg. the brethren deemed it necessary to to the i8S6 In he above proclaimed in public dls was named. On the morning of the nature, and last, because at the Logan paragraph quoted per and afterwards In the organ of the waste their time oh me, though I was and predictions not enI did not mention m v la- vontrikutfou courses idea church? day the appointment was made Presi- high council meeting President Joseph tick and near the portals of death Not to At Lewiston, dent hi brethren. dorsed In the a wav of boast, but the by temple Why should you feel called upon to one. Yet Taylor came down stairs and be- Y Smith gave that as the reason for my they expected me to sign the fact remains that the taken were notes hi of Cache connty, fore meet some of the statements contained it when it wa breakfast he Mated in the presence suspension. was, presented, although you nevertheless, constructed temple and published on a flyleaf of witnesses that he felt with In that public correspondence? Were utterances funds You say there was nothing new in Impressed to say I was considered contumacious and contributed the Saints But when He was subsequently written to by Pres appoint M. W. Merrill president of the that document, as ft relates to church by you not satisfied wlh the judgment of obstinate. that wat It my disposition President t he people as to the merits of t.e controJoseph F. Smlh declared Ident Taylor, and hit answer It on file. Logan temple, and asked me what I discipline; that, it contains that which why was I not labored Jwith for weeks? that I While he claimed he had not been n only gained admisdon toils versy? Youralde was placed before them Or thought of It. I replied that it wa a has always been an established doctrine why was 1 expected to answer it the klnof mv teeth, ttte-tfiereported, he gave hi own lan- good selection; that he might search of the church,; by j ust as fully as It had been placed nd that usually men without such attention? Did you really me. If you believed a further exyour open letter seemed fc cor- guage, under hi own hand, to the effect the stake over andnot find a man better do not require mtieh time to consider a believe me contumacious and obstiroborate, I could not recall ,nv hesi- of prediction of event to occur within adapted to the position. And I gave aa matter which they have ' planation was due, why did you not give nate? always held to on the pait of any one about ak five years, which have failed of fulfill- my reasons that Brother Merrill was be to me when I requested It time and tancy I do not desire to he understood as rig! t." or receiving my donation during the ment and which ere founded on erro- financially well to do, and could afford aln? Had my views relating to this complaining of the short time given me Ing subject neous Interpretations of Scriptures. He to give to the work hi time and attention harmonized with Pardon me for quoting the following for the consideration of the manifesto period of its construction there statements, your a sort of retrac- that he wa secretive and methodical would have been no Another paragraph in your letter I wrote for publication h a rsh expression from your letter: The the hor and a half at noon on the on my hesitancy evident ourpose tn paolUhlng these com- day my name w dropped from the list truly remarkable and especially therein tion, whlcfi r eally took nothing back, In his habit. President Taylor said he partln signing that instrumunications wat to excite public sym- of church official, I understood It thrn the public Is Informed that silence In my but merely charged partial error In the was pleased to hear me tar so. I never, ment, or promptly to accept this rule of discipline. and the and had interest been unnecessary super- at I understand ft now. But when I at any time, or In any place opposed the Had I understood that it wa maintained by presi- report of his extravagant remark." pathy; simply an fluous appeals they contain convey the heard it claim had been' discussed for dent Cannon, now absent," a Not one word uttered by me at Lewi appointment, but wa continued third and established doctrine of the ay, ' ( mpreaslon that they were con-co- weeks by the other member of the from the state." liow'jar tiat but!-nes- s ton on the occasion referred to partook officer In that temple till, by the action church I would have given no ajtention ed for that purpose." JudlnfTToni quorom ; of apostle, tint a systematic transaction between tw0V Member of the nature of a prophecy at coming at my quorum I wa depriyed of all to the previously published declarations LoGAW, 1 ' v : I n v v i re--u- -r a- 1 me-toss- pre-acm- e s , 1 e n pre-erve- 16-6- bi-re- s o v 1 i ai.-w- er -t dedl-catio- ju |