Show I 1 11 l P L OWNERS TALI TO I 1 in in tle R ti P n tu 0 U ia 11 D lamn W willard illard snyder W 0 alexander george riter rater an and d harry josephs e represented the utah mi mine n e operators association at tile the 11 mass meeting held at the weber club last night I 1 I 1 r we roust must have ogden listed as a common center for tile the shipment of ores and wo we must have a guarantee that wo we will be immune from exorbitant damage demands by the banners fa in the neighborhood of the proposed smelter give us these two concessions and we will do tile the rest the chance wo we offer off er it if accepted will place ogden on an equality with salt lake as regards population and importance as a commercial I 1 center utah mine operators association as represented by willard snyder W C alexander george gcorge aitor and harry josephs at the mass mooting meeting held at the weber club last night we will get you what you want we welcome you fitl open arms and although we wont jeopardize tile agricultural ri interests of 0 weber county wo think there is room enough hero here for both the farmer and the mine operator wo are prepare 3 to give you a square deal but you must not ask for any concessions that aro are not fair to all 11 concerned ogden oden O den city and weber county as represented rep resented by an enthusiastic gathering of citizens I 1 when president of tile iho weber club adjourned the mass meeting harry josephs secretary of the utah aline operators association walked up ua to him and passed the remark that to accomplish anything a follow fellow ought to come to ogden a campli i 1 ment that disclosed tho the nature ture I 1 C of the reception given to the delegation of operators and how thoroughly they appreciated the ilie courtesies court esle extended them by tho the city and county order was called bitu the reception ionI rooms of the club filled with inter osted asted business men not many minutes after a general discussion discuss discus sTon ion and the exchange of opinions relative to the merits and demerits of the proposition offered by the mine operators ex mayor glasmann GI asmann arose and moved that it bo be the consensus of sentiment of this meeting that the utah mine fine operators association bo be welcomed to ogdon ogden and weber county and that we pledge ourselves to aid th ohp operators not only at the present time but whenever they may need our assistance either in adjusting pos sible law suits stilts or obtaining railroad concessions a resolution that was carried by a unanimous voto vote I 1 tho 0 only opposition at the meeting was voiced by a delegation of farmers yaho e land is nearest the utah smelter C M ina clay and W white as spokesmen declared that to be frank and sincere they had come to state that if their lands were damaged by the erection of a larger smelter they would ask tor for damages when however by argument and example it was shown that it a smelter of 1000 tons tona capacity would not injure crops and cattle to an alarming extent and that the operators operator would ue lie willing to pay damages based on the valuation of the land affected white in behalf of his big associates united with the majority in welcoming the t independent interests ter to the county it is not expected that the farmers of and plain city will oppose the movement when a committee visits them to ascertain their sentiment as already many of them have declared arod openly in favor of the establishment lish ment of weber county as a m smelt ing center in view of L the th 0 fact that 80 90 per cank cen of the prevailing wind la duo due west and that tillable land is situated in the shape of a crescent to the north east and south of the smelter farmers present were inclined to believe that they were mcking kicking without cause so that tho the best of feeling prevalent when they had become enlightened on a few points of interest in to them as well ell as to the operators in many ways the meeting was octive of good fellowship harry josephs willard snyder george riter W C alexander abor brewer C M cia clay V deli bela kadish don maguire aguire Nf W white john spiers 20 william glasmann A R heywood and john pingree Pin grce spoke on to topics P s relative to the introduction of ioe shelters smelters sm s n alters elters into the county without exception they united in declaring that 0 aden Is a superior to any city in the state as regards water supplies and railroad facilities and that by virtue of its situation the city ought to have a big bia share of the states chief industry we heard that you had a proposition to offer us said harry josephs and we came up to investigate the mining industry in utah is worth about per year so you see that it is worth considering we know that you in ogden and weber county are hospitable that you are willing to give us an oven even break so we are will ing to boost for your city and your county provided you aro are willing to help us we can do more for you up here than acty any other organization I 1 in elio state bela kadish stated that III ih his bis experience peri per ence lence as a smelter man and a buyer of ores lie ho had come in contact with both sides of the question ile he knew positive lylie asserted that farmers near salt lake laae were pot not damaged until in the neighborhood of I 1 tons of ore per day were smelted smelter and about tons of sulphur were nvere thrown over dver the country each day I 1 it proposed to carry on the business to such an extent in weber county lie no sala said our little dinky smelter as termed it lias has lone done no damage and a smelter with four times its capacity wont damage surrounding property to make og 09 den a common center for ores Is to I 1 make the city ono one of the most important in the intermountain country and to establish a largo large smelter here Is to open up a way avay for the city to gro grow and expand until it is without an equal in the stated state don II maguire aguire earnestly welcomed the operators he considered the offer made by them as an opportunity of building up the city never equaled and with all his energy anil and knowledge of mines and mining he charged the citizens present not to do anything to present the association from coming to weber county to smelt smell its ores ex alator alayor glasmann willard snyder de r george riter and others were free in explaining the situation and in as asking k and answering questions no evasion marked one minute of the meeting it was business throughout and a closer union and more friendly feeling was effected than ever before between the interests of salt lake and ogden it was assured the operators that what they asked for would b be obtained for them A R heywood in a pointed speech stad stated that morally and financially tho the city and county were with the mine owners and that whatever could bo be done to assist them in locating near ogden would bo be done mi mr r hey woods speech was masterful although impromptu pres president ident pingree took t the he matter of 0 appointing committees to confer with railroad authorities and farmers under advisement but delegations will bo be sent to each at once so that a positive answer can be made immediately to the association of operators As explanation of the motive for the independent inte interests repts to break away from the trust harry joseph read the following article from the U engineering ngi and mining alining journal I 1 I 1 ibe he complaints have come in the main from the western wester rk ore purchasers who are obliged to sell their products in markets where there Is little or nu competition these complaints have been directed most of them against the american tUng and refining kenning company and its allies popularly known as the smelting smelling Sm elting trust by whom nearly all 0 of the 06 important custom smelting smelling sm elting plants in the united states are controlled the mine owner who wishes to sell his product must accept the best offer lie he can get and in order to insure a market for his ores lie he must enter into a contract under which liis bir output for a long period in ID advance goes to th the p purchasing u re basing smelter and is paid for tri in a accordance with the terms in the contract under such conditions there Is nothing to pL prevent the ore actie buyer biyer from exacting as much tribute aye traffic will bear in considering tie te complaints that have been filed with the committee wo nye have tried to bear in frund friand that ci custom IS tom smelting smelling sm elting is a legitimate industry ancl ana Is entitled to recognition as such we must remember that the owner of a smelting smelling sm elting plant calinet afford to buy ores unless they are of such nature that he can utilize them and got get toe ane metals from them within a reasonable length of time lap e is entitled to a fair return for invested in the business including of course the money represented jy by ores alv awaiting alting treatment product tied up in process precess of reduction and metals awaiting sale perhaps ho he is entitled to an allowance for possible fall in metal prices while ho he is getting the product in shape for the market although in the long run prices are as ar apt to rise as to fall his problem is to roast off the volatile elements to flux off the worthless earthly dross to save the metals as a base bullion which can then bo be put through a refining process for the purpose of separating ahe valuable metals from one another and finally to sell the refined product to consumers I 1 it should be noted that in lead smelt ing at practiced in the west the lead silver and gold are saved as bullion and that a 4 product byproduct by Is made from which the the copper can be recovered in IE copper coppery smelting smelling sm elting the copper silver and gold are saved but no recovery is made of any lead that may be cresp preset in neither of these process esis there any attempt to save other elements in the ore such as zinc antimony arsenic etc on the contrary these elements clements aro are looked upon as objectionable either because extra expense Is entailed in getting rid of them or because in disappearing they carry off precious metals to tj an alar alarming extent in practice eom complete recovery of tho valuable metals is not made therefore in buying ores the smelter does not expect to pay the ore producer tor for greater percentages of the metals than he can recover lie he cannot pay the full market price for the metals without first deducting sums sufficient to transport hig bis product to the refinery to pay the cost of refining the cost of transporting refined metal to the market and the additional costs of brokerage 1 interest insurance etc ile ho Is entitled ed to charge for roasting off the v volatile 0 batile elements in the ore and for sl bagging off the earthly dross if la in order to nike make the slag he bo is compelled to buy barren limestone iron etc lie he Is entitled oni eni i to charge for the cost of theses these materials and for the cost of handling of the additional stuff in the furnace if after kill all of this lie ho exacts a fair profit and does it without subterfuge the ore producer should not complain but the objection Js is made that the methods of ore buyers are not always I 1 fair summarizing the complaints that have been made to the committee we find them to embrace 1 excessive deductions foru melting losses losser and for refining and selling costs 2 unsatisfactory settlements on account of arbitrary valuations placed by the sm elters upon different metals 3 1 bitant smelting smelling sm elting charges 4 arbitrary and unfair rulea governing the sampling and assaying of ores oreg 5 Question questionable alJO tactics to stifle and forestall competition relief through competition if mw any or all of these are true what can the ore producers do about it turning ning to the salt lake valley valle V of utah h where there re seems to be least cause tor for complaint we find a number of independent smelting smelling sm elting plants which wore were built by private concerns for the purpose of treating ores from their own wines mines and d which were afterward enlarged I 1 in n order to handle custom business these plants are now forini I 1 I 1 I 1 rivals of the trust under toe tae I 1 stimulus of competition the ho smelling smelting sm elting industry in tho the suit salt lake lak e valley has advanced commercially and technically cally to such an extent that this Is 16 now the most important smelting smelling sm elting center in the west moreover this competition has brought substantial relief to the ore producer who has no smelting smelling sm elting plant of ills his own ore producers produce rs in other parts of the west will therefore be glad to learn on n what basis ores are bought and sold in in the salt lake valley ralle 3 by permission S of certain producers we recite below the terms of existing contracts for the ho sale said of their output of ores in individual instances and tor for exceptional ores even better terms than these he have been obtained gold contained in the ores in question is paid for at the rate of 1950 per troy ounce no gold is paid for when the assay shows less than 00 ounce per ton silver so 05 per cent of the silver contained in the ore as a s shown by fire assay is paid for at the new york 4 official price on the date of the first assay I 1 copper all copper contained in the ore in ill excess of 05 unit 10 pounds per ton of ore Is paid tor for at the ruling wholesale price of electrolytic copper in the now new york market tor for the previous week deducting 27 2 7 ac per pound if however the ore happens to contain lead in excess of three u units such ores are treated in a lead furnace making a more roundabout round about process for the recovery C of tho copper contents and the cum of per pound is deducted from tile the new york price of electrolytic copper lead 90 per cent of the lead contained in the ore oie as shown by wet assay on fire button is paid for at the ruling wholesale price of common dea de lead in the ne new w york market deducting tile the sum slim of ons cent per pound no lead is paid for when the assay shows less than three units smelting smelling Sm elting charges and deductions for metal losses while all metallurgical losses and all expenses attaching to bullion after it leaves the smelting smelling sm elting works are amply covered by the foregoing deductions the schedules in use in other localities call for deductions far in I 1 excess of these no two smelting smelling sm elting companies have exactly the same schedule of deductions neither does liny iny concern apply ane same schedule in dealing with all patrons when brought ta to the point the ore buyer does not maintain that his schedule sc of deductions represents actual metallurgical lurg ical losses losse sand and the costs of freighting refining and selling bullion tile the average a ore producer if paid tor for per cent of the metals in his ore at full market prices would object most strenuously to a treatment charge which dould cover metallurgical losses freight on bullion refining costs selling costs interest depreciation profit etc it is 19 plain that this entire outlay must bee be borne by the ore in some way but by the subterfuge of deductions a little on one metal here and a little ahe there ro and a little somewhere else the ore buyer is able to bring the treatment charge which first attracts tuo the attention of the producer to a low point although not in fact singled out as victims the producer produced of gold ores have been the most bitter in their heir complaints against the ore buy buyers ars one reason being that with no valuable metals in the ore excel except t g oln there is little chance tor for roundabout figuring and the treatment charge stands out ont in its cold reality realf ty reasons for |