Show V eram Local state Sunday April 18 2004 A3 and regional news flier stirs educational clash Fund-raisin- g By Holll Weiss staff writer on group wanted to carry out the the USU campus and promised to keep dose contact throughout the project he said Based on the initial discussion Lindsey said he agreed to allow the group to do the hut didn't expect that they would follow through Other groups had approached him in the past but nothing ever came of it Lindsey fund-rais- Cache County official defines data A group of Utah State University students has returned the proceeds of a fund-raisdone at Logan High School in early April to benefit Fast Forward Charier High School Fast Forward Executive Director Eric Lindsey said he was not aware that the students were collecting funds for the charter high school and he did not approve a flier that was The being passed out during the fund-raisflier which bore the Fast Forward logo included statistics that the USU students said Fast Forward officials gave to them However those same statistics are drawing some criticism from local school officials “No I had absolutely no idea" Lindsey told the Herald Journal in an interview Tuesday “In I didn't know that they had created a fact flier and I didn’t know they were on a high By Holll Well staff writer er secondary education and curriculum According to state guidelines for determinis an individstatus a drop-oing drop-oual who was enrolled in a school at some time during the previous school year was not ut ut School districts are required to submit statistics to the Utah State Office of drop-oEducation every year but local district officials say the numbers alone can be mislead- ut er district-approv- ing The' numbers don’t always accurately ed ut reflect the number of students who have completely dropped out of the school system according to Steve Zsiray Cache County School District associate superintendent of ' ' class project The group's assignment was to it raise awareness for a local organization" Lindsey said the group approached him in early January about doing an awareness and campaign for the Lifetime Learn— another program run by LindCenter ing sey Lifetime Learning Center offers free non-prof- school campus" The USU students who called themselves Team Education raised $500 arid gave away $1000 in raffle prizes donated by local businesses for a management and human resources enrolled at the beginning of the current school year has not graduated from high school or completed a state-o- r sta- educational program Drop-otus is determined by Oct 1 numbers listed by the state The drop-o- fund-raisi- ut SeeDATAonA8 courses to adult students including computer and GED preparation courses Lindsey is the executive director of both the Lifetime Leam- ing Center and the charter high school Both are currently located on the lower level of the Emporium building in Logan There was no mention of Fast ForwaiA being a part of the fund-raisLindsey said me er fund-rais- er said “Never before had it worked but It always just petered out" he said ‘Two months went by and I figured it fizzled or they decided to work with another group" Lindsey said he didn't hear anything more about the project until last week when he received a call from Dustin Jones one of the members of the USU group “Dustin said ‘They asked us to leave Logan High campus' and I said ‘What? What are you doing on the Logan High campus? I never authorized you to be on a high schixtl campus'” Lindsey said Jones said Lindsey did not know that the group would be fund raising on the high school See USU on A8 er Citizen speaks out Valley firefighters against dangerous Nibley intersection By Mark Randall staff writer 66 “It’s an absolute miracle there isn’t a death there every NIBLEY — There isn't a day that goes by where Kristi Forsberg doesn't see some child on the way to school barely avoid being struck by a car attempting to cross the street at the intersection of 2600 South and 600 West In fact about 10 days ago her own son Nick was one of those near misses A car 600 West struck her '’' son who was riding his hike to school and threw him into the day People come flying around insane" com-ingdp- - Kristi “Fortunately he didn't get hurt badly" Forsberg said She's amazed there hasn’t ' been a fatality yet Cars come " ' Eli LuceroHerald Journal Logan firefighters Brandon Swan left and John Fullmer practice making vertical ventilation cuts on a roof in Logan Friday ''' 7 noon 7 after- : DUD - Worn house offers ideal Logan practice ground By Darrell Edward Ehrlick staff writer ' - “We can’t send a firefighter into a situation where they can't see We 7 have to make what they call a 'tenable atmosphere"’ Hanscn said Ventilating the rixif requires fire- fighters to' actually saw into the roof : making either three or four cuts-anthen knocking of pulling the roof off Venting smoke and hot gas “As the ventilation goes so giies your fire” Meaker said Though firefighters arc routinely trained in the classroom on ventilation techniques it is rare for them to get an opportunity to practice on a reiil struc- : Drivers couldn't help but noiiicethe ' large pint: tree thathad crashed house the 240 front at the of through E 300 North And if that didn't slop: them another large pine tree through the northeast hx)f surely caught their '' attention What some curious passers-b- y might not have realized was that the group of firefighters in the backyard was using the house as a training ground While The Herald Journal received several calls from people wondering if anyone was hurt by the fallen trees most people didn't come close enough to the property to see the fluorescent ' green demolition permit in the win- ftre dow the band of ambulances and trucks gave disappearance of tragedy: However Brady Hansen the train: ing officer for Logan City Fire Department said the ow ners of the properly decided to fell the trees onto and into v the house before the fire department arrived to bejgin thc weeklong training ’ session on the house ' I the house : “Whenlpulled up to knew what they were doing and I was the cause just hoping that we weren't of the trees falling" said Fire Chief Mark Meaker who arrived to wiatch ' i some of the drills fire crew trees Ignoring the fallen practice cutting ventilation holes in the roof of the house Proper' ventilation helps Clear smoke from a house on fire : ! : ': : fighters walloped the teams of young bucks' Meaker saidthe optimal time for the drill which requires getting equipment off the truck climbing on and opening the roof and returning safely to the ground should he less than five niin- liter : “That’s a big hazard” Fors- berg said “They (kids) are out in that street hecausetherc is ' no sidewalk going north and 7 south' (wi 600 West" What's more there arc aiso ' 740 to 50 parents coming down ' thiit road to pick iip their kids at school that can't see the kids 7 ' in the ifad “SomcNxly nceds fo come oyer and watch" FoTsbeig said ‘There's a real danger Something has got to be done"' ' Frirsberg would like to see 7 the city put in cither flashing 7 lights a three-wa- y stop sign or even possibly a speed hump to slow the traffic dow n and make ' them aware of the kids cross- - ‘ - : 7 ' ' sdxx)l The older crews averaged 4:43 whi le the younger group averaged 7:04 ‘ “See experience sometimes makes the difference" Meaker said noting that thi$ is the second drill practiced recently in which the younger groups have been bested by the group with a ' little more gray Hansen admitted that experience ' plays a key part - “It's hard to be proficient when you have limited opportunities” Hansen lure Firefighters on top of houses must cut into the ipof whilc not cutting the trusses Cutting into the truss wcrk could mean that the roof wouldcol- 7 lapse “You can’t teach someone in the saidclassroom Jiow to feej for trusses (With Craig Stahi a Logan firefighter who a chainsaw)" Hansen said ' participated in the drill on Friday said ' This only field experience fire crews that cutting through the roof was not 77 usually get is at fires However once a matter of reyving up the chain- just —maybe twice — a year a citizen v saw or taking a few good hacks-wjtsteps forward and allows their properthe axe : ty to be used as a training ground vit was hard “Stahl saidT couldn't : before demolition ! ' feel the truss lines: There were four or “Most of the time we find oiit about five -layeislo that roof and a lot of v a building being demolished too late" nails Someone made a lot of money ' Hansen said “One of the things we also practice is studying building con- - 7 celling these guys nails’’ Stahl said that when the real calj v struction arid how ihefire behaves in to make a ventilation hole in a comes thistypeof structure" ' One of the other nxif training has to kick in things the firelight“That's why we do this repetition'' ers practiced was a fair amount of rib-- 1 Stahl said “You don’t have time to sit bing and critiquing their compatriots land ihinkaboul it when you're there However Meaker the final arbiter: repiorted that the crpws of older fire- fat afire)" '- down the sloping road at speeds of 40 to 50 mph with the drivers view obstructed by residents' fences and trees! “It's an absolute miracle there' isn’t adcath there every day” Forsberg said “People come flying around that comer and they can't see Ifs insane" In fact just this week she's seen young girls playing jump rope along the road and a boy stop to pick up rocks This is the second time Fors- berg has appeared before the city council with her concerns about the intersection The next time could be hx late she said ' “I'm afraid there' s going to be a fatality" Forsbeig said Fdrsberg said part of the problem is that there isn't a sidewalk for the kids to walk on About 200 kids each day from the Elkhom Ranch subdif vision walk that route to j : he able to put up a stop sign because the stale reguiates where those can go hut agrees the city needs to do something ' about that intersection “I don't know if that's something we cun do It appears we1 can't'"Harrison said “We may have to lookat multiple things” Councilman Scott Wells said he definitely sees the need to hire a second crossing guard “We ought to have two people" Wells siid “It won’t be tx much of an expense for us that we can't do this for our kids" Wells said it may also be time for the city to require the residents in Elkhom and MX) West to pay fiir sidewalks The city made the residents along 800 West put in side: walks and split the cost with them He also said the city can go afler the homeowners along the roadway to lower their fences and trim back the problematic trees that are obscuring motorists view That's easy Ip fix” Wells ' said “That's an ordinaiice io- lation "And I think long temv we need to talk'to Elkhom ! about sidewalks ! think that V 7 the way wi need to approach ! this"' Wells said that ihecity may' alstibeable to wirk’With the' Sheriff's Office to get an r t(? specifically watch that intersection for speedcrs Thc city paid the SherifTan extra ' SI01XX) for two rcsere-fficcrs just t(yenforcespecds in the city limits The only pfoh- - 7 '’ otfi-ce- 7 lem is that the reserve ’officers work at night because only ' At a minimum she wtiuld they arc part time-:- ' like to see the city hire across- - 7 The city council alto encitur- 7 ing guard to make sure the kids aged FoFsbcrglo lake her con- - 7 " 7 cepis to the schtxil district and gel across the' road safely 7 Forsberg said Providence has ' urge them to have a bus stop at 7 four crossing guards and River ’' Elkhom to eliminate the need ' Heights for all the parents to drive their sterp put in a three-wa- y children to schtxtl 7 ( ' sign near their elementary "I think we can safely-saschtxiL we will dp that and prepare for r Councilman JayHarrison’ ' said it isn't the sidewalks” Harrison said likely the city wilj ingihe street - ‘ Forsberg Nibley citizen ir : that corner and they can’t see It’s ' 7 : 222 zssz 2ZS : |