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Show The Public Forum Antliom not right, fellow Utah drivers., here's a record to shoot at On a recent trip, covering 6,022 miles on interstate highways and secondary roads, through Chicago, New York, Boston and Quebec we scored the following Two, driving wrong way on one way streets, one, running stop light, three, dm ing up blind alleys, seven, "If you had turned ' when I told you's, five, turns from wrong the tune of, "That's our turnoff," two. lane to sereeching halts caused by shouted "Turn r.ght" accompanied by finger pointing left, and 65 stops at rest areas. Thruugh all of this we received only five birds." three shaken fists and two obscenities shouted from open car windows All Pretty good show I d three-daweekends And let us sick leave and time off for person- numerous say. JOE GREAVES Thanks UP&L A great big thanks to all the Utah Power Light guys w ho worked so diligently to get our power back on. We were without power for 17 hours but we made the most of it We figured we were &. y 'arget al business. Tell me please what student is being taught during all this time off ' None' Of course, it's great for the teachers. But, then aren t we talking about teaching our students Teachers would have you believe that they have an exclusive on teaching, but that is not accurate. Parents, grandparents and even children teach younger ones. Consider the fantastic job of teaching done by Mormon missionaries and even in foreign countries Think of all the scout leaders, or all the teachers in all churches No, teachers of the public schools do not have an exclusive on teaching Many of our students learn of things we dont want them to learn as in smoking, drinking, drugs and promiscuity. (Tms is why John Singer wanted to educate his children at home but that is another story ) But, they are not learning to read (and comprehend; and write and understand math. Our students deserve better than what they are getting and what we are paying fur right now. G TYRONE BALDWIN Kanab - Forum Rules Public Forum letters must be submitted exclusixely to The Tribune and bear writer s full name, signature and address. Names must be printed on political letters but may be withheld for good reason on others. Writers are limited to one letter every 10 days. Preference will be given to short, typewritten (double spaced) letters permitting use of the writers true name. All letters are subject to condensation. Mail to the Public Forum. The Salt Lake Tribune, Post Office Box 867. Salt Lake City, Ut 84110. no worse off than some, and maybe better off than some. Thanks so much guys for a job well done. When our pow er came on, we were very happy and grateful to all of you who worked so hard. BYU Bleepers Brigham Young Umv ersity is up to its old tricks again On a recent PBS "Great Performances," KBYU bleeped out two very tame words from the play "The Dining Room." KUED. the PBS station at the University of Utah aired the same program and left it as it was originally written. Thank goodness KUED does not feel they have to protect our ears from certain "bad" words. How far is BYU going to go? MARK S. SIMPSON Sandy Times Have Changed am a product of the 1960s. I've marched in peace moratorium marches and have attended many rock and roll concerts and love-in- s in my time. I believe in what the hippies believed in love, peace and ecology. I feel that Im very opened minded as far as dress, fashion and fad goes. So why was I completely overwhelmed recently when I decided to take some time off work to visit East High School where my son goes to school? What I found there was a trail of garbage in the hallway, which, if followed, would lead you to the nearby I found an unoccupied classroom with all the windows opened where the air was so stifling and stuffy I couldn't imagine how one could stay awake during class when the room was filled with students. There were students sitting directly outside the counselors office engaging in what seemed to be everyday conversation which consisted mostly of four-lettwords. Students were referring to their teacher not as Mr. Smith, but by his first name "Dave." Female students were wearing dresses low-cin the back, (how is my boy supposed to be able to concentrate with girls dressed like that sitting in front of I LORRAINE SPENCER Top Choice Chief I know where the beef is. The beef is with the superintendents of our public schools in the Salt Lake valley. Who do they think they are to countermand a decision made by our chief of police. Bud Willoughby. Because of our unbelievable snowstorm early Oct. 18, Chief Willoughby made the decision to close the schools for the safety of the children. Next we hear on KALL that two superintendents of our schools changed the decision and opened the schools. Why do the superintendents think their decisions are more important than the chief of police's decision and should be followed? Doesn't Chief Willoughby have the authority to make all final decisions involving our safety and the safety of our children and if not, why not? FRAN HELLER Teachers Underworked I am puzzled by the propensity of Gov. Matheson to give millions and millions of dollars of taxpayers' money to teachers. Throwing money at the problem is not the cure nor the answer. But, this seems to be the politicans method. They create and develop a problem all by themselves. Then they take taxpayers money to sove that problem. How dumb! Teachers are not underpaid; they are underworked. summer vaWho else gets a three-monta two week Christmas vacation, cation Thanksgiving vacation. Easter vacation plus him)? My main mission at East High School was to inquire about special resource programs for students who are completely bored, disinterested or not motivated in school. I received no answers to my quetions. As I left the halls of East High, I left with a feeling of total disgust. And I'm paying for this with my tax dollars?" I asked myself. Am I the only parent out there who cares? h CHRISTIE J. PERRY The Way It Was program for the University of Utah gridders this week. The Utes head for Boulder, Colorado this week. Jerry Lunnen, sophomore fullback, who was injured before the BYU game, in in trim once more. Here are briefs from The Salt Lake Tribune of 100, 50 and 25 years ago. November 7, 1884 The idea that it takes nine tailors to make a man look presentable is an on exploited doctrine. Two such good tailors as Heiberg & Ferustrom can make any man look like the monarch of the survey. They succeed because they understand perfectly well the rules by which good fits are secured. November 7, 1934 Hard work Monday and Tuesday, with is the tapering off Wednesday and Thursday I ke Tribune Wednesday Nmemher 7, I'tM A19 Israelis Finding Tribune Readers' Opinions Pretty Good Show Ibe halt November 7, 1959 Utah State University Ramblers lived up to their name here Friday by trouncing Colwith an awesome lege of Southern Utah 55-display of offense. Featured in the Ramblers' best showing in many years were Bruce Camill and Ray Harwood. Lebanon War Too Costly New York Times Service "W'e are through with JERUSALEM delusions in Lebanon." In those words Defense Minister Yitzhak Rabin signifies a profound Israeli change of policy The new national unity government has totally abandoned the political goals of Israel's Lebanese war The 1982 invasion was intended by its - designer Ariel Sharon, then defense Mr to force minister the signing of a peace treaty between Lebanon and Israel, bring the rightist Christian Phalange to power in a strong Lebanese government and get Syrian forces out of the country Reality today is further than escr from those objectives. "I ve never believed that these political goals were attainable by the means of force," Rabin said in a conversation the other day "J didn't believe that you could be the policeman of Lebanon, decide who will be what in Lebanon. "Israel should not aspire not only morto ally but first and foremost practically go to war, to initiate one. on the assumption that we can go to another country, capture its capital and then dictate a political solu" - . Gandhi Phenomenon Enjoying Revival tion Rabin is known as a hawkish figure in the Labor alignment, so his comment on the limits of military force was significant. But it was more than historical It reflected the government's determination to get out of the trap that Lebanon has proved to be. So far the war has cost Israel $3.5 billion and the lives of 600 soldiers. And the torment goes on. To get out of the disaster, the new government sharply cut back Israels conditions for withdrawal. It dropped the demand that or at Syrian forces leave at the same time any time. Israels only objective now is to prevent guerrilla operations from south Lebanon against its northern territory. It wants an agreement with Lebanon that the separate South Lebanon Army and the United Nations force take over the areas it evacuates. And it wants an implicit understanding from Syria that its forces will not move south in Lebanon and that it will not allow terrorists to infiltrate. The big question is why the Syrian presishould agree to any dent, Hafez terms. He sees Israel under pressure in Lebanon and in domestic opinion. Why not just let things go on as they are? At the top levels of the Israeli government there is a sense of realism about the difficulty of getting any Syrian cooperation. Nevertheless, officials argue that there may be reasons for Assad to play. They mention Religious Fanaticism Halts Progress of Civilization - Israeli-supporte- By David Greenway Boston Globe Indira Gandhi shot dead in her garden. It is a crime so reminiscent of another assassination in another garden in New Delhi that of the Mahatma Gandhi, the spirtual father of independent India. A shaken Margaret Thatcher, herself so nearly the victim of a recent Irish Republican Army assassination attempt, seemed almost close to tears when being interviewed about Mrs. Gandhi's death, according to the New York Times. d It was reported that Indira Gandhi's ow n bodyguards, members of the Sikh religion, had gunned her down. Another world figure. Egypt's Anwar Sadat, died three years ago at the hands of his own soldiers as they passed before him in a military review. If there was a thread connecting these disparate outrages, it was that of religious fanaticism. The word fanatic, which comes from the Latin fanaticus, means to be inspired by a deity, and when religion and politics are combined by people willing to use violence to achieve their aims, a dangerous critical mass is reached. It is a phenomenon that is as old as mankind, but it is enjoying a revival in the world today that threatens what we have come to call civilization. ' The Hindu who killed Mahatma Gandhi in 1948 was part of a conspiracy of fanatic who believed Gandhi was selling out by calling for coexistence between Moslems and Hindus. Indira Gandhi was reportedly killed by Sikhs calling for a separate state. Mrs. Gandhi last summer sent troops into the Sikhs' most holy shrine in Amritsar, a move that Sikhs. mortally offended even But Gandhi's move against the "Golden Temple" came after a long period of violence and political assassinations by Sikh militants. The conspiracy to kill Sadat was carried out by fanatic Moslem fundamentalists who objected to Sadat's secularism. Although the IRA uses terrorism and violence for political aims, their cause nonthe-les- s springs from religious intolerance between Catholic and Protestant that turned what began as a civil rights cause into the mindless hatred that now holds sway in Northern Ireland. Five years ago today, the storming of the American Embassy in tehran brought home to Americans that an entire country could viofall into an excess of politico-religiou- s lence in which the United States would be denounced as the "great Satan." For the last five years, the barrels of Iranian firing squads have never cooled. The fanaticism of Shiite Moslems has now taken over much of Beirut, once the most tolerant city in the Arab world. The men who blew themselves four: Participating, however indirectly, in the process leading to Israeli withdrawal would make Syria appear as master of the situation. 2. If there were agreement, Israel would pull out its forces in the eastern part of the occupied area that directly threatens Damascus. 3. An end to confrontation in Lebanon would give Syria a freer hand to apply pressure elsewhere, for instance on Jordan. 4. Assad may be concerned about the growth of Shiite fanaticism, reasaping that the phenomenon may not be confined to south Lebanon, and he might therefore like to see an early end to the Israeli presence that provokes it. When the Lebanese government agreed to send a military team to meet one from Israel under U.N. auspices, Israeli officials one that could not have saw a hopeful sign come without Syria's approval. On the other hand, the Syrian vice president. Abdel Halim Khaddam, said last week that Syria would not give any guarantees or commitments to the Israelis or anyone else. Top Israeli officials say they will not pull out of Lebanon without, at a minimum, assurances of security for the countrys northern towns. But suppose those assurances are not attainable? How long will the public stand for the costly, draining occupation? When Sharon objected to part of the present negotiating plan, a man at the funeral of on the 600th soldier killed in Lebanon said Israeli television: "Arik Sharon, where do you get the chutzpah to tell us with whom to negotiate ... Do you like funerals every day?" 1. up to kill hundreds of Americans in Beirut died for God as well as politics. In Israel last week, a Jewish terrorist group that killed an Arab and wounded 10 others in a rocket attack on a Jerusalem bus, threatened the life of President Chaim Herzog. according to Israeli state radio. The rise of Jewish terrorism, which Israel is trying hard to curb, is a comparatively new phenomenon and justifies its actions on mystical and biblical claims to the Holy Land When 24 Israelis were arrested for the murder and mutilation of Arabs on the West Bank, a poll in Israel's leading newspaper. Haaretz. showed that a third of the Israeli public thought their actions fully or somewhat justified. Rabbi Meir Kahane. who calls for the forcible expulsion of all Arabs from Israel and the occupied territories, now sits in the Israeli parliament. The rise of violent and religious fundamentalists willing to use violence to achieve their aims is plaguing Israel as well as the Arab world and India. An editorial in the Economist magazine after the recent attempt to kill Thatcher and most of the British Cabinet said. "Horrors such as the Brighton bomb are not the manifestations of social conflict. They are the random outbursts of psychopaths aided by the technology of modern weaponry." Alas, the evidence suggests otherwise The trend is not the result of psychopaths It is the result of the will to power by determined people who offer simple solutions and are willing to use violence to achieve their ends The mullahs are not mad Khomeini is not insane. Those who firebomb abortion clinics in the United States undoubtedly justify their violence by deeply held religious convic- tions. Nor is it a matter of have-not- s wanting their share, as both Marxists and capitalists have convinced themselves is the of engine social conflict. As former ambassador to India John Kenneth Galbraith pointed out. the Sikhs of India are haves. They are among the richest and most privileged groups in India. If there is an economic appeal to Sikh nationalism, it is to stop the Indian government from sharing their wealth with less privileged Indians. To many, especially in the Moslem world, the secular gods of Western values. Marxism and modernism, have failed. Before those who do not flinch at political violence and whose appeal is religious, moderation, compromise, tolerance - all the forces that make it possible for people with differing views to coexbt are in retreat. Ernest H. Linford Old Winter Has Long History of Paying Early Visits Since politics is hardly appropriate for a column to be published at least a week after it is written, how about the weather and the autumn leaves? The early onslaught of wintery weather is hardly new for this region. For example, 136 years ago 67 pioneers lost their lives within a few hundred miles of Utah while traveling by handcart. An October snowstorm in the uplands of western Wyoming cost many others arms and legs. It could be that some descendants of the handcart disaster could be taking advantage of the free Brigham Street trolley bus rides now being offered in Salt Lake City. Walking 1,200 miles from the end of the railroad in Iowa remains a curious experiment in transportation to the American W est. Yet nearly 3,000 people traveled by handrart to Zion between 1855 and I860. This column has to do with the ill- - fated handcart companies of James G. Willie and Edward Martin. Willie's company set out from Florence, Neb., eight miles above Omaha, on Aug. 18, 1858. The Martin company left Florence Aug. 25 and both companies were moving by Sept. 2. Seeds of tragedy had been sown previously at Iowa City where the handcarts were hurriedly constructed, many of green timber. The construction schedule was late in being carried out. The tardiness delayed the journey's start until the middle of July from Iowa City. As a result, the company did not reach the Sweetwater River, south of present day Atlantic City, Wyo., until October and early autumn snowstorms spelled doom for the enterprise. Wrote one handcart traveler "We had not traveled far up the Sweetwater before the nights, which had gradually been became very severe getting colder . cold weather, scarcity of food, lassisoon tude and fatigue from produced their effects. Our old and in . , . . over-exertio- n 1 I firm people began to droop, and they no sooner lost spirit and courage than deaths stamp could be traced upon their features. Life went out as smoothly as a lamp ceases to burn when the oil is gone. At first the deaths occurred slowly . but in a few days at more frequent intervals and we soon thought it unusual to leave a campground without burying one or more persons. One precaution both handcart captains had taken as insurance against trouble, says Wallace Stegner in the book, The Gathering of Zion, " actually added to the migrants eventual difficulties. On each cart they had laid an extra hundred-pounsack of flour in addition to what could be hauled in the The human draft animals pulled this overload and the carts bore it until they crossed the invisible line Lito the arid West, . . Then the green carts began to disintegrate and need constant repair At Wood River the Willie Com . d commis-sarywagon- . "... . pany suffered the piece of bad luck that meant they would have no chance The valley was swarming with buffalo, which one night stamped through the When the walkers crawled out camp .they found no one hurt, but 30 head of cattle gone. Almost horseless, they had no luck finding them, and were forced to . . . . . . continuewithout their insurance beef and with few draft animals. When they yoked up they didn't have enough animals to pull the heavy supply wagons There is much more to the story, but most Utah readers know well the tragedy of the handcart companies. ..." Turn those autumn leaves back into plant supporting soil. Don't burn them. in the earth There are which are waiting to go to work to break down the leaves into rich, dark leaf mold, to build fertility and help maintain the cycle. Shredding speeds up the process of breaking down the leaves. No matter the time, however, it's micro-ogranisrr- worthwhile to have a source of the rich fertilizer It's possible to shorten the time, too. by layering the leaves with green plant material and manure. It should be turned regularly every two and covered with black weeks or sc plastic. Leaves can be simply piled up and left to disintegrate, but layer composting hastens the process. The final product will need bone meal and limestone. You will be also be conserving topsoil. an important Natural resource. Topsoil is disappearing quickly and erosion results. Fallen leaves make a good mulch for perennials and herb bulbs, too. They can be laid on thickly and then in spring they can be removed to a compost pile, having served as winter protection. They don't ni3ke an mulch, however, because of the way they pack down. Ask your neighbors who have plastic bags loaded with autumn leaves to make sure they are composted, not burned. n V 1 |
