Show TIE newte newis AND AHU MR MK both the she morning dailies in thin olta today bLo monday uday contain a letter from mr ift moma mo thatcher Tha tober the tbt because this journal in its if daily teas of fr day lait fast took up the be gentle pr areco eCO ID maue made in a before a public body that the day daj blauet along come in utah when lie he who holds higher allegiance than that which belongs to the muga not be a lawmaker in the states state s and we w showed bowed that bat his hl position wan wa violat lyt of we the ideas idea expressed to la me declaration ot of the national and by uch such great men ate gearge jeffer i HOD on and anorew jackson wherein Is IB recognized the fact that in this nation here to understood and uphold upheld a blaber belabor allegiance than that which be loave to lo the state comely to the god f the universe in the be recognition of chis fact to the guarantee to loup liberty in this land now the he gentleman claims that bat in ID ur remarks we had resort to special olea pleading ding a and tiou HOB we most admit that the gen ieman aaman takes the palm for ol oi hat nature yet presented the proof a lo in a comparison of the NEWS article nd end the letter the art tole was waa a direct t exposure or of the allaby of orble his prophecy bout about higher allegiance other than that which belongs to the state 22 the totter letter is IB BD an adroitly worded evasion of the polut point under discussion as bare laced an illustration of special pleading sophistry and misrepresentation a Is ie often soon the point ot of the wh le ie thing is that mr Tha That tober coor was waa cor bored in the position no b took and aad to ID order to tool fool the public re to 1 special pleading sophistry and mis mil D il too the public loulu have days thought better of him li ii no ne had been like a man maa and stood u tor for bin bib position or finding it iacona a ent ana untenable mable had bad i bergtrom bere ber efrom lo in the first plies he be soya that bat the sentence we quoted did nut not convey the carried in the w ole oje para irra tob the meaning which the NEWS took was waa the point or of higher i egi anoe ance the whole paragraph convoys no other oiher meaning meau iOK a aad nd there here to no ubalde or the sentence quoted it wae the ibe glat of the whole but be aya it has ha no meaning other than heb chiou to is expressed in the accompany lanying inn phraseology wua who I 1 has it no 00 geruing ing io in its ita own obrent alog will a man of honor bonor ami am sense sease bat tor lor his bia own language but bre 1 11 is ie as aa he said anid it should be with it jue soine between brackets bracket the day must come in utah when he who being an officer in the state holds a higher allegiance to io the chiefs of an any v lion alien or church organization ion than that which under his hia colemn oarb belongs to the stae must not noi be a lawmaker in the halls of the state that duel des not delp his case in the 1 daei not fur for li it god be the chiei if t any n which the gentleman m may sy call falie P still till the 6 being Is ia entitled tj th lh higher allegiance and such allegiance is ia nut not incompatible wita the obliga sons ot of the citizen or a cause to bar ut jut the citizen from the balla of th the deato 91 tuo tue simple quest question iun in ID this whole business la Is chotner man has baa a right to hold bold his hia allegiance to dulty deity 88 bovo that to 10 anything firmed by man we insist that be has that con inalienable fluet i tue alie neither mit t od d nor misrepresented its iia readers were not they know knew bat was meant the gentleman ope specious cious denial of the right ot it god to ulalia the allegiance 01 ol mau man won waa exposed that bat la Is all there to to his bia complaint there then la IN another fallacious idea which ohp abr gentleman presents prea enta in his hi totter letter he says that church and state are oo ordinate coordinate that to la true under ander certain conditions only if the church be and di rooted by god and the state ate be the some erne toy sher might ba clammed as ordinate coordinate co la in ft certain sense belag befog under the jamew am immediate direction or it if both chunks and state have their origin and in men man they hey are ordinate coordinate co oo 91 job it their source but if the church be of Q gd d and the state of mn man although allowed by deity and thus thu ordained of him yet he being given no voice to la its ita government so BO far as aa mena viessa sire are concerned then they are not coordinate there Is ic a supreme governor of the world but oo co ordinal powers presiding preil ding over each country lo in the inferior sense vie tle government of great britain was waa ordained org ofed od american revolution was waa nag an act of treason reabon against him it was wai so eo dO denominated DOMinated against their th king but it if the government hadl had been ruled directly by the almighty in the administration of affairs rebellion would have bays been treason him rebellion Bebel llon in his HB church to t treason against him but la in a it t his hii it Is IB oot not there to now oa no direct government by the almighty in the affairs of state through officers appointed by divine ordination heoe there to no ordinate coordinate co relation be tween iween his church and the govern moots moot of man be wey they in m or republican and the very rot fast there Is 18 no such divinely direst governa government ot says saya that his church ia 1 not authorized io in its ita capacity to connot ouch mob a 8 government but members member have a right to participate to t A government according to the rag ions of the latter and it if the state or any individual attacks the church it has bai the right of self olt defense defame mr thatcher says eay a struggle for for liberty J etc to la now in augu rated in stati who if i straggling abo are the Cn intending 0 nt ending tending parties artist IB I 1 11 be one and who la Is hip hi fight fighting iDIL in IB it the church and it if so ban baa not the church we right to defend defard list it the church how h touched the liberty of no man it haw ha defined the rules of rolp liae of it 16 tn members embers if any do abt choose to t bias abide those rules wey bey know bow to be released from obligations aber thereto does the say may that a recalcitrant church officer has bom beer dismissed frum from his bis position that we tb 8 diate ate must most take up his bis side of vie th struggle and interfere to overthrow abe discipline of the church doi he be say that dis minal for cause from ft a position or from mem membership bershiN is bob an aim infliction or of paio pains an I 1 penalties that he be oan call upon the state to carry its protection beyond the of argument into the dominion of sia ao tion the gentleman refers teurah continuing redeemed from a as ob n bious as that of atron slavery or of russian serfdom I 1 utah has bait been redeemed from such thralldom dom fand an serfdom 11 12 when dij did those conditions exit crift t WAS wait it during atie b guirty i sire from 1847 to 1877 when she be SG il ileman eMall go u far an ad the pub to know knew w am clug all in his power to uphold aba th church of which he be WON then as h b nored member or was it curing we b decade which joll followed owed wuen woon tec was one I 1 abs tbs of that church wed wa li it brigham young or john taylor or wilford woodruff or the he twelve whom he refers to an holding utah in a thralldom dom a as obnoxious an that of african slavery elavery or russian serfdom Is af X he means mean either or all of mose the me people may brand him what he be I 1 IB ir if he fee does not but means meana the united notates otates government that kept utah in territorial vassalage taboo we say bay his bie to Is so 0 o much overdrawn BB as to amount to falsehood or does be mean some olave caved laved riving driving or autocratic power of which we do not cot yet have any conception the main fact in this matter remains la in the same ame relation as before in the airest speech the NEWS quoted from the be right of acknowledging the su u prelacy of deity was wai denied by the speaker ep eaker bin letter of explanation doe not cot modify this abia point but adie ada a denial to bold higher allegiance to some one else which Is not a point in the controversy 0 so o far a as the NEWS i Is there to now the audi feature of deolar lne man mao made government tor none othen exist in temporal form so eg ordinate coordinate co with the church which to Is a distinct and direct denial of the of mor lom as ai the church instituted by iod himself Him Belf and aad which Is given giten divine authority in all matters but which to in not authorized and does net act attempt to dominate or infringe upon pon the state but it dose claim mud aud will exercise the inalienable right to itself and we hope the gentleman who to in ibis fight 22 or 49 struggle gle 10 will remember that p perchance er he be has made a grievous gri evou mistake sed and bas bai looked too much to one sides ide and that not the one which recognizes that the highest law for man Is in to love lore the lord with all bin might mind and strength we have bare no ne desire to invoke or prolong any but when it comes to ophia try OP to call it by no name we submit that a IL OID an who does doea what th the gentleman hai done to 0 o bring into not the churbe and its ita leadia lt fend and then ben gets get up in ward fast fait meeting a as he to Is said aid to have bare done yester yeater baythe very day when his letter was wae sent cent to the morning newspapers and testifies to 90 the divinity of the mission of at the prophet joseph smith the me truth oath of gospels and to presidents denta youngs toung taylor and woodruff being the ba authorized successors BUOO eMon of the prophet in the divine calling of presiding over that church on earth be to is to may lay the saat in no position to make many accusations as to the aln in belity or consistency of other people |