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Show Mondale more of an asset than Dole By Louis Harris Sen. Walter Mondale is helping Jimmy Carter more in this election than Sen. Robert Dole is helping Gerald Ford according to the voters. When asked to choose between M andale and Dole lor vice president, n a o i 1,510 voters prefers Mondale by percent. This margin of 12 points is greater than the percent lead that Jimmy Carter now has over President Ford nationwide. When Carter picked Mondale as his running mate, it was widely assumed that he wanted someone who would sit well with Northern labor and the liberal segments of the Democratic Party. Today Mondale is running stronger against Dole than Carter is against Ford among union members and among liberals nationwide. In addition. Mondale is t some Republicans had assumed, and he is axing a positive contribution to voter support elsewhere. Nevertheless, neither Mondale ncr Dole has become American household words. A full 45 percent of the electorate do not feel familiar with Mondale and an even higher 50 percent are unfamiliar with Dole. HARRIS SURVEY cross-sectio- also ahead of Dole among independent voters, professional people, voters with incomes of $15,000 and 48-3- 6 50-4- 1 Houi they Among those voters who are with them, the vice presidential candidates are felt to be on opposite sides of the political spectrum. A 53 percent majority of those who know Mondale describes his familiar over and the college educated. In each of these segments of the electorate, Carter is now running behind President Ford. The one area of the country where Mondale is considerably weaker than Carter is the Souta. But even in the South, Mondale is preferred to Dole by a percent margin. So it seems that Mondale is not the drain on the Carter ticket below- the Mason-DLxo- n line that political philosophy as liberal," while 52 percent of the voters familiar with Dole believe him to be a conservative." Yet their perceived ideological difference does not seem to be very important. Among voters who call themselves conservatives. Dole is preferred to Mondale by only a relatively dose 48-3- 7 - voted 54-3- 9 48-3- 43-4- .i1. RvAgYiaf'.lr- man E3 Write 'u vote uie t fc.LtsitAL, LOisjbif by a House refused to delay consideration of a bill to lobbyoverhaul the federal governments ing disclosure law. Delaying the bill probably would have killed it for the year. The bin subsequently passed the House overwhelmingly, however, the measure died because of another procedural logjam engineered by opponents in the rush for an Oct. 2 adjournment. Backers promised to bring the hill up again early next year. The proposed law would have required organizations engaged in lobbying members of Congress and Other high-levjnvemment officials (o register annually and file reports every three months listing their activities and expenses. Supporters of the disclosure bill contended that the public has a right to know who is working to affect government decisions, what they are doing and how much they are spending. They argued that the current law does not require enough information and is virtually unenforceable. Opponents of the bill held that it was too broad in its definition of who is a lobbyist, was a possible infringement on First Amendment rights of free speech and was being pushed through the final stages of the legislative process with too much haste. To delay: McKay, Hansen, Symms, both z el h; Against: Howe, OFFSHORE OIL PRODUCTION. The House decided, by a narrow margin of four votes, to kill a measure changing the manner in which offshore federally-owneoil and gas resources are leased to private industry for development. The vote was and came on a motion to send the bill back to a House-Senat- e conference committee, which in effect kills it for the rest of the year. Opponents of the bill said that the present leasing system was a good one and that the changes which this bill would make would result in considerable unnecessary delay in developing these oil and gas resources. They also charged that certain provisions, by allowing for federal exploration of offshore areas, would shift the high cost of oil exploration to the taxpayer from the oil companies. This, they warned, would be a windfall for the oil industry and might open the way for the federal government to move into the oil business. To kill: McKay, Hansen, Symms. Against: Howe, LAB-HEFUNDS. The House voted 312-9- 3 to override President Fords veto of a bill appropriating n for the Departments of Labor and Health, Education and Welfare for fiscal year 1977. The vote margin in the House was 42 more than the majority needed to override a veto. Backers of the Presidents veto argued that the bill would mandate spending more than Ford had requested in his budget. They charged that such spending would be inflationary and that the bill had made no attempt to cut wasteful programs. Opponents of the veto charged that Fords budget request bad made no allowance for increased costs and would have cut from existing programs. To override: McKay, Howe. To sustain: Hansen, Symms. d 198-19- 4 $56.G-biilio- two-thir- 67-1- two-thir- 41-3- $100-milli- e, two-thir- $100-millio-n car-make- 293-10- of 5 pfOflte American Party (First District) welfare. It encourages the practice. I favor a Right to Life Amendment on the national level. I also oppose fetal experimentation. McKay has twice voted to support such experimentation, which I feel to be immoral." .V A., A 4 v - , - v uX V - U Xr.'v-- , and said Thats enough. The boy whod been picking on me was one surprised person. F rum then on, I was accepted in the community. It was another lesson in diplomatic relations, he recalled. I learned that respect comes from a show of determination not to give in to a buily. For too long, weve given in to communism. Small countries have lost their esteem for America because we haven't fought back and have capitu lated on too many issues. The Watergate issue crystallized Gerlach s feelings on public involvement in politics. "I just thought, there has to be something better, he said. He became active in the Republican Party and was a county delegate. As time went on, however, he found himself parting company with the party on several issues that had become a thorn in fcis side. They included deficit spending, what he felt to be weakness in handling foreign policy in Cuba, Korea, South Vietnam and other countries, and the rapidly expanding welfare system. 1 didnt leave the Republi-- K ir 841 10 ll I would be willing to pay you if you can help me. Seven weeks ago I sent a money order to Zsa Zsa Gabor Cosmetics in Brunxvllle, N.Y., for some Items. I have telephoned them and sent three letters hut get any response. Their advertisement says Mrs. B.A., Salt Lake all orders shipped promptly. City. Their idea of promptness is somewhat confusing. We wrote them Sept. 17 and received a reply yesterday, Oct. 7. On the letter wre sent, w'hich they returned to us, was this stamped info: PRODUCT SIHITED Oct. 15, 1976. Is your item roming or has it been sent? Only you will know. ; Do-i- t Man attempts to solve problems, aet answers, investioate complaints and cot red tape. Write. You must sian your name and elve your address and telephony number. nursery prefer privately-ruschools where children are taught the ABCs and where their thought processes are not n ;7 C :.A 7 r. r A1!?. negatively influenced. Federal aid to education: The 10th Amendment to the Constitution mokes the states responsible for anything not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, including education. The federal government has no responsibility in this area at all. For them to tell use how to run our schools is ridiculous. Title IX is an out- ! At rage. Welfare: "This is a state function. We would have a 35 percent boost in state income to use for this type program if the dollar didnt first go to Washington. Through church-operate- d charities, 97 percent of the money goes directly to the work and in professional charities, its 70 percent. rr National health ins. ranee: lead directly to socialism to the tune of $80 billion and perhaps mere. We should leaui from countries where it hasn't worked: like England and Sweden. A A v'; It would Ik ' f C t s is -- -- " : ' W ' , & wr ,t ' a . - A r .... , An organic gardener, Gerlach used to curse the weeds now uses them as garden mulch. these things could be allowed to continue and while Republicans proclaimed themselves to be and deficit spending and against government dole, they continued to support and hold membership in regional goverment and to seek revenue sharing grants which contribute to the deficit. After investigating the American Party pla form, Ger-lac- h found it to be more consistent with his own philosophy, and he made the change. I found it to be a party that believes in basic republicanism and constitutional principles. America would be stronger if she would adhere to these principles, he said. Gerlach would like to work some magic in Washington, D.C., and perhaps he has the background for it. He is an amateur magician with three foot lockers lull ot props." lie often performs at Primary Childrens Hospital and at community functions and finds it a fascinating art form. Gerlach also is an organic gardener who is learning to work with nature instead of against it. I used to curse the weeds, but now I use them to my benefit," he said. I use them for mulch and compost. 1 brought in praying mantises and lady bugs to control pest insects and I use a shredder to grind corn stalks, gras and Other plant material for ferltl- r, ; ftu. . i just couldn't understand how Van, P O. Box 1257, Salt Lake City. Utah Promptness policy confusing Federal day care centers : I am against the government using tax money to provide an environment for a child. I mini-natio- I didn't know how to fight, and since I was the new kid I got picked on. Mom told me I'd have to stand up for my rights, so finally one day, I turned LINE at Gii, gas price controls: "if the government would allow the free enterprise concept to function, people would dictate prices through purchase power. Government interference has done more to increase energy prices and dependence on foreign oil Ihau any tiling." e. At 18, Gerlach joined the U.S. Air Force, where he was trained as a teacher of electronics and electrical technology. He also taught management to officers and other personnel during tuj military service. During this time, he met airline hostess Thea Schindler who became his wife and the mother of six children, Thea Gail, Harry B. Jr. (Sen), Tricia Lynn, Richard, Valeric and Russell. As a child coning with the melting pot atmosphere of a Rochester, N.Y., neighborhood n with its loyalties, Gerlach often found himself on the losing side of a quarrel. T itv Last June we held a party in our borne to advertise Miracle Maid Cookware. We were to receive three crepe pans as a gift. Weve never received them aau can get no action from the person who demonstrated the ware Con you help us? A.H., Salt Lake City. By the time you read this you should have received a call from the district manager for Miracle Maid. He says they keep extra pans on hand and will 1 see-thyou get yours. Harry B. Gerlach, Latter-da- y Saints when the church was still hadly persecuted in Germany. They came to the United States in 1929 just in time to hit the depression here. We never asked for any government help. My brother and I were responsible for keeping the furnace going. We walked the railroad tracks with gunny sacks to pick up whatever pieces of coal we could find. My brother got a job sweeping a store and eventually became manager. My mother and aunt made flowers and sold them door to door. I sold magazines when I was old enough. There has been a change in that kind of attitude. Now its not so much a matter of earning your way by the sweat of your brow, but a dependence on the government to take care of individual needs, Gerlach said. The government has even encouraged dependence on its services by such tactics as taking trailers to supermarkets to sign persons up for food stamps, Gerlach added. He thinks the switch from individual responsibility has destroyed a great deal of around FUNDS. The Senate Mowed the lead of the House and overrode Fords veto of the Labor-HealtEducation and Welfare $56. twelve more appropriations bill. The vote was than the majority necessary to override a presidential veto. The bill became law automatically after the Senate action. To override; Moss, Church, McClure, To sustain: Gam, 5 AUTOMOTIVE RESEARCH VETO. By a vote the Senate failed to override Fords veto of a bill in federal funds that would have pumped into development of pollution-freenergy efficient automobile engines. The vote was ten short of the majority necessary to override a veto. The Senate action killed the bill for the session. In rejecting the measure Ford called it a wasteful expense that would only duplicate existing efforts by government and industry to develop engine alternatives. Further, he warned that the start-u- p program would be only the first step in a massive spending program by the federal government. Supporters of the biU contended that it was necessary to stimulate what had been a sluggish engine development effort in the private sector They said their bill would "supplement but not supplant had the private effort, noting that Detroit reduced their spending on such programs in recent years. Earlier in the day, the House had voted to override the veto by a vote, 29 more than needed. To override; Mum o Sustain : Gam, McClure. Not voting: Church. LABOR-HE- nUJ Gerlach, developed a different set of values than many native-bor- n Americans. Part of that philosophy includes the determination to take care of oneself and to avoid the nubile dole. It is this philosophy he brings to his candidate for First District Congressman ou the American Party ticket. My parents were secretly baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ : Should get gift soon By Twila Van Leer Deseret News staff writer The son of German emig rants to America, Harry B i4-zt- r V a OUR READERS' ACTION Do-I- t k Who decides how much of a deposit a utility company can charge a new customer and how long they may keep the deposit? Its my experience that Mountain Fuel has a different policy than other utilities. They can keep the deposit far two years. When you move they demand credit information as if you were a new customer and seemingly no not keep records on your past performance. I think I was given the runaroune and some of the contacts 1 made were M.C.S., Salt Lake City. very rude to me. MFSs deposit policy is approved by the Public Sen ice Commission. They may ask a deposit which shali not exceed the amount of an estimated 90 days bill. Interest is paid on the deposit at 7 pcrc-- nt per year. Upon final settlement of an account, any unused balance plus accrued interest, if any. will be refunded. Based on this, most deposits would be $50, $75, $1(H) and up at present rates. But, they have established a standard residential deposit of $30, unless credit experience with an individual requires more. They can hold deposits continuously, but they return them after two years for customers with good credit ratings and after three years to those with poor ratings. Yes they do ask for updated employment but this is rot credit info facts. They regret you tliink vou were ruddy treated and apologize. make bureaucracy go 'poof (jiousej 'i V .A AAa A3 MFS explains deposits He'd like to work his magic, By Congressional Quarterly WASHINGTON Votes of area members of Congress on key roll calls for the week ending Oct. 30: CCrCDERC, 1976 b percent lead Gov. Carter holds over President Ford. Of course, the chances of either Mondale or Dole having a decisive effect on the election are not high, despite the fact that four of the last six Presidents served as vice president before succeeding to the White House. The two men running for the top spot tend to dominate all the news, and the ultimate choice in the minds of most voters will come down to a selection between them. Indeed, in next weeks nationally televised debate between Mondale and Dole, the candidates are likely to spend more of their time supporting their presidential ruiuung mates than putting forward arguments of their own. Nonetheless, if the election turns out to be dose, it is just possible that in 1976 the choices tor the second place on the ticket can make a critical difference. percent, in contrast to the 7 percent of conservatives who prefer Ford to Carter. The fact that voters prefer Mondale to Dole is probably due to the way they perceive the personalities of the two candidates as they have campaigned around the country. Undoubtedly a handicap for Dole was the widely discussed speculation that he was going eo be a kind of political hitman who would go after Carter and' try to get him to blow his cool. If Mondaie is to have an important influence on the outcome of the election, it could well be in the biggest six states of the Morin, which are likely to determine the next President. Mondale runs a strong 4 percent ahead of Dole in California. New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio and Michigan, compared to a much narrower 3 48-3- DESERET NEWS, FRIDAY, . tllU contributions, ,1 ,W;M f J U lilf, t SUV By coopeiating with nature, he has found his production so profuse I have to cut back every year." Gerlach is convinced there are more natural ways, loo, to govern a nation. He expressed these views on issues: s Humphrey-Hawkinfull employment bill: "In my estimation, this is the first real step into socialism. It gives the president and the Federal Re serve Board control of the economy. It doesn't differentiate between citizens and aliens and would take away and the drive to progress. If the government would remove controls from the free enterprise system, unemployment would be solved." e Right to work: Every individual has the right to determine where and at what he will work. I a:r. but believe they should be locally controlled. 1 would recommend that the provision which forces unions to negotiate n for members be re, Taft-Hartle- y non-unio- moved so that itudividuals would have an option to bargain for themselves. Food stamps for strikers: No. McKay (incumbent con gressman K. Gunn) voted for it. It dulls the senses to realize a Utah representative would do SO Abortion, Right to Life Aniendui cut; "I am deflidtely against soy government financing of abortions for women on Military : I would like to see a reinstatement of the Monroe Doctrine principles which said we should become involved only in the protection of the western hemisnphere. Otherwise, we have no business meddling in economic or military affairs of other governments. We need to maintain a military posture second to none." Environment: The US. government should stay out of pollution standards. It is a responsibility of the states. We must have a happy medium between energy development and environmental concerns. If we allow no pollution at all, we 'll all revert to the horse and buggy. The relations: SALT talks have been a sellout for America and this concerns me greatly. Russia has capi'al-izeon our weaknesses and now has the edge in offensive and defensive weapons. Our one effective deterrent, the cruise missile, may well be used as a pawn in future talks as it is a great worry to Russia. Even though there have been reports of cheating on agreements on underground nuclear tests, the U.S. has made no issue of it. U.S.-USS- R d Balanced budget: "A revamping of government to reestablish constitutional principles cant be done overnight, but it is possible to institute a zero b ala need budget. Mas- sachusetts did and saved 10 percent on expenditures. We need a common sense approach to gradually institute somty into our fiscal policy. Three tilings wouid help, government dives-liiur- e of all corporations that compete with free enterprise; e the income from sales lo help pay ihe national debt, of levying ? a uniform miles tax on ail citizens." u-- Albert refused to block Ford WASHINGTON Sources close to Speaker Carl Albert say he could have been President today if he had been willing to manipulate the congressional machinery. In discussions so secret that staff members were excluded, some Democratic colleagues urged Albert in 1973 to hold up the confirmation of Gerald Ford to be vice president. This would have left the Speaker next in line for the presidency. The Democratic schemers predicted that the embattled Richard Nixon, then in the last ditches of his presidency, would be impeached. He was unworthy, they argued, to select his own successor. Albert had to do, they suggested, was to delay Fords rmifirmation and wait for Nixon to be impeached. This possibility stirred deep controversy at the secret strategy discussions. Some argued that It wouid amount to a Democratic coup and, therefore, would alienate the voters. JACK RflDERSOD One top Democrat, privy to the backstage discussions, told us that Albert could have become President merely by remaining neutral. It took Alberts active opposition said our source, to thwart the scheme. All our sources agree that the speaker refused to hold up Ford's confirmation. OLD RAMROD: Sen. Strom Thurmond, who comports himself like the last surviving Civil War general, has been a model of personal integrity. But Old Ramrod has let his standards droop a bit when it came to three of his trusted lieutenants. Thurmond siphoned thousands of dollars to the trio through an obscure loophole in a 1964 law. The law was passed to prevent military mtu from collecting fat government pensions at the same time that they received regular government paychecks. But a loophole was chiseled in the law to allow the vice president. House speaker and Civil Service Commission to grant exemptions in special" and "emergency" cases. The vice presidents have granted only 10 emergency waivers in the past five years. Of these, Thurmond wangled three of them. He arranged for three of his aides to collect retirement pay and Senate salaries at the same time. assistant Lou They are his administrative Beasley, a retired lieutenant colonel; military and staff assistant K. K. Cowan, an aide Emory Sneeden, a retired brigadier general. The last case is the most interesting. Thurmond wanted to hire Sneeden, but Sneeden didnt wfant to work for the $25,000 Thurmond could afford to pay him So Thurmond slipped around to see his fellow., chairconfederate, Sen. James Eastland. man of the Senate Judiciary Committee where Thurmond planned to place Sneeden. The obliging Eastland arranged with Vice President Nelson Rockefeller to certify Thurmonds man for an exemption. Eastland assured Rockefeller that there was a special and "emergency need for Sneeden to work for the Senate Antitrust Subcommittee. Thus, Sneeden was able to collect his $27,,X)0 ,J retirement pay along with his $25,000 Senate wages for a happy total of $52,000. But Sneeden, whose services supposedly were so urgently needed by Judiciarys Antitrust subcommittee, reported for work not at the subcommittee's offices hut at Thurmonds Senate suite. (: i W6. United Feature 5'. ndlcata, me. I t |