Show A STORMY MEETING CAUSED BY MES HIRED M TUE NOTORIOUS JARMAN i elder B H roberts able reply to i that defamer from the cambria daily leader of the ath dinst published at swansea wales we taka the following interesting account of a meeting lately held in swansea tor the purpose of allowing alder B H heberts to refute the malicious of jarman which he has been scattering broadcast over that land fonow ing the report of the meeting will be found three other letters all relating to tue same subject and all published in the same paper the same day taking into consideration the fick that mormonism is at present the chief topic of debate in swansea was not surprising that the albert hall should have been well filled on wednesday evening when elder B H ebberts attended to lecture on mormonism and to reply to some of the statements made by mr iT armao mr E E house occupied the chair and after a brief introductory speech called upon mr roberts mr ebberts Eo berts who was met with mingled cries of hoo bah and loud applause prefaced his address by appealing to the audiences sense of justice to give him fair play while he made the best attempt in hit power to refute the extraordinary charges that had been made against the people whom ho represented hear hear they had been most unjustly assailed and he trusted to that glorious principle of which englishmen were so proud the right of an accused man to be heard in his defence before being condemned to get a fair hearing to defend his people from those attacks hear hear you shall have it mr roberts then in an explicit and eloquent manner proceeded with the subject of his lecture he traced the history of the cormons mormons from heir first settlement in utah the improvements ahat had rapidly taken place in the great salt at the hands of the teatter dav af farr not be duplicated in any other country in the world A voice we hope not he had expected that statement but he would prove that it was not a wise one over 90 per cent af the people in the territory owned the roofs over their heads and tho lands they tilled and not only so but their ownerships were absolute applause that as he had said was a picture that could not be duplicated anywhere else upon the broad earth and that one fact alone wa a refutation that these people were in the hands of a mercenary priesthood ear hear mormonism had been a aless in g to who received it even if their hopes for the future in that faith should turn out to disorder he then described the geographical position of utah its relation to the united states government who appointed its chief officials and district judges and said that from 1868 there had been established in the vicinity a military post so that if there was any failure on the part of the civil authorities the strong arm of the military power of the united states could be called into operation with these facts before them ho called their attention to the extraordinary statement made in that hall that people had been mercilessly murdered at tho hands of the mormon people aap that was a little more than one half the number that fell in the great civil conflict between the northern and southern states and that proud government of the united states BO jealous of its position among the nations of the earth permitted its people to be butchered in the most brutal manner its honor to bo dragged through the dust and had not the virtue the resolution ol nor the power to see that the butchery ceased hear hear and a gentleman who was seated in the front object to my country bein run down continued that it seemed to him that the man who went before an intelligent tell igent audience and made such a statement could not be short of mad and he was there as an englishman by birth but an american by adoption to say that such a statement was an unmitigated falsehood and incapable of proof uproar he then read amidst considerable confusion and frequent interruption the testimony of a select committee of the legislature of nevada extracted from the minutes upon the general character of tho inhabitants of utah in which it ws stated that in salt lake city intoxication was rarely seen amongst the gentiles and scarcely over amongst the cormons mormons Mor mons and tacit houses of ill fame were unknown in the territory A voice you dont want them when ou have forty wives and there are paid men from jarman here he proceeded to quote the opinions of bishop D S an episcopal honorable opponent of mormonism that had lived for years in their midst of gen thomas who had been appointed by the government to enquire into charges against them and of mr phil dobinson Ko binson special correspondent of the daily telegraph Tele raph and author of saints and sinners but mel with such frequent interruption that the chairman had to again appeal for order quiet having been restored mr ebberts Eo berts in deference to the repeated requests 0 a noisy mob at the back of the hall dealt with the subject of the mountain meadow massacre he denounced in the possible terms the enormity of the came and asked who was re for it A voice the mor mons it did not require much intelligence telli gence to cry out that but it would require more ingenuity than sir jarman or anyone else possessed to prove it cheers it was an accusation that had been made on many platforms and had been met even in the law courts but in every instance the accused had come out unscathed he then read from the court records of the trial of john D lee and from the opening statement and closing address of the prosecuting attorney in that remarkable case a version entirely at variance with that given by mr jarman at morristown on tuesday evening and said that after the congressional debates that took place upon the subject president young and those who stood by him were freed from all blame hear hear john D lee who had been excommunicated from the church by order of a high council had for the sake of booty induced the indians to attack the party of arkansaw travelers and then fearing he would be defeated had sent to cedar city and told some of the mormon people that their services were required to defend the travelers from the indians some of the people went out upon this misrepresentation but when they found out the true state of laffaira they returned to their homes and fearing they would be implicated they resolved to keep the matter quiet it however leaked out and john D lee stood bis trial and was executed A voice he deserved it true continued the speaker he did deserve it and he got it and that at the hands of a mormon jury cheers and interruption during which mr bobberts passionately exclaimed for the sake of humanity alone hear me in my defence the interruption at this juncture became so great that mr roberts could not be heard by the reporters and after summarizing his points and mending them to the serious consideration of his hearers he concluded amidst loud cheers and counter cheers mi bolitho then mounted the platform and asked some questions relative to the mormon faith which mr roberts promised to discuss tonight to night THE discussion av AN explanation to the editor sir the public will please understand that in my proposition to meet mr jarman I 1 stipulated that ad admission should be charged and the proceeds after the expenses of the hall were paid should be given to some charitable institution in swansea As mr bolitho however had engaged the hall fae lii atAir jarman was to have held there to night to make up bis expenses which ho might lose at other places ho felt that ho could not give up the night as I 1 had suggested and accordingly I 1 waived that matter and mr bolitho will assume all responsibility in the financial affairs of the meeting tonight and make whatever disposal of the proceeds ho may please yours ac BH ROBERTS to the editor sir after hearing jarmans lecture on monday evening I 1 procured some of his tracts among which was one entitled hell upon earth and I 1 must say that whatever my opinion might have been of his lecture I 1 was thoroughly dis austed gusted with his publications I 1 expected to have som elight from his printed matter respecting the subject of his lecture but was surprised to find the greater part of the tract referred to was devoted to the most absurd nonsense it has ever been my misfortune to read the idea of a man who according to his own statement lectures and antes for the good of the people and not for money his readers that his parents were of the opposite sexes his mother of the female sex and his father of the male sex this man has not the stamp of manhood and honesty about him and I 1 should be very sorry for anyone who would go to jarman for any edification fi surely he was biot properly treated when in the lunatic asylum but there the authorities were not to blame bior it for according to his own statement he ran away of his own free will and defied the keepers to catch him but enough of this mr roberts the mormon elder who evidently believes the doctrines taught bv the day saints appears to be a gentleman who is always ready to uphold his principles and it was with feelings of much regret that I 1 witnessed the continued interruptions he was subjected to last night at the albert hall the meeting was simply a disgrace to swansea people for whatever the popular opinion may bo regarding mormonism it is only right that a fair hearing should be granted to mr roberts it is however a consolation to amow that ho will meet mr jarman tonight in public discussion and I 1 trust that the doorkeepers door keepers will see that no boys or boughs roughs will be allowed in so as to interfere with what promises to be a most interesting debate I 1 dont believe in the doctrine ot polygamy tor one moment but I 1 believe that prove all things and hold on to that which is good may be beneficially applied in many cases if admission were charged the proceeds to be handed to some charitable institute it is very likely we should not have a repetition of last evenings meeting but whatever may be done I 1 trust a fair hearing will be granted to both parties and that everything may be done in decency and in order yours ac VMS PLAT WHAT TOOTSIE THINKS to the editor sir through the medium of your valuable paper 1 wish to draw tho attention of your lady readers to the announcement made by mr jarman on sunday morning last which was as follows that he would private meeting for female eighteen years ona sunday afternoon next in the agricultural hall swansea for the purpose of explaining to them the of certain indecent and filthy practices of the cormons mormons in their endowment house at could not be related to a mixed audience mr jarman went on to state that such meetings were usually well attended and though ho sometimes hesitated at speaking in too plain language he settled the question by asking the ladies to vote whether he should ghe still further revelations leve lations of a more disgusting nature or not and his experience was to use his own words that all the women held up two hands in favour of his continuing the lecture sir I 1 protest against such an insult to our sex whatever mr jarmans motives may be for stumping the country I 1 emphatically say that his method of drawing by promising them revelations of un heard of indecency and filth is pandering to a depraved and vicious taste and it is certainly against the interests of morality and christianity if it is as mr jarman seems to think absolutely necessary for us women to hear such things surely our fathers brotherson brother sor husbands would be the proper persons to inform us and not mr jarman who judging from his style imagines that all the women are so anxious to hear his beastly details buter editor X say these revelations are not necessary nes essary and they can be productive of no good result they are conclusive evidence that air jarman depends principally upon them f or athe success rf his lectures mr jarman accuses the cormons mormons of stealing his wealth seducing his wife murdering bis son and attempting to murder himself it is self evident that his incredible booky kooky mountain yarns hi wild exaggerated antics suggestive gestures and indecent lectures are not the offspring of philanthropy and if as he asserts his mo tives are not mercenary all intelligent persons who hear him must conclude that he has a personal grudge against the cormons mormons Mor mons and that this is his mode of revenge he is what our yankee friends would call a crank in a very bad way tt would be interesting te for the young men of swansea to stroll down to the hall door on sunday afternoon to see if any of my sex will hava the effrontery to be present I 1 trust that the women of swansea will not dagrace their lexby attending but show their contempt for mr jarman and his sunday afternoons pennyworth penny worth of filth by their absence yours etc TOOTSIE |