Show I TALK WITH MISS GOLDMAN I oInke j Declares Police Are Helping to Make Anarchists f i I i Chicago Sept 10Later In thp day iIh 9 Goldman was Interviewed hl the wojnann annex at the police station by an Associated Prow reporter and a i stenographic report taken Miss Goldman Gold-man safdi S i T feelsure thnt the pbllco aro help ing us more than I could do In ten I years They are making morqjan UrrhlilH iban most prominent people connected with thc anarchist cause could make in ten years If they vrlll L u only continue 1 shall be very grateful they will save me lots of work Not only my arrest but thc others smack of the Haymarket The police are very much In disrepute allover the country and they wish to do something to clear themselves They are trying I to make It an anarchist plot If they wish to make up a case they may succeed l suc-ceed S I ceedBITTER AGAINST MKINLEY r It is a dirty trick to charge In the i newspaper reports that It was tho re I milt of an anarchist plot Murk Hanna has l been the ruler l of this country not MoKlnley McKinley has been the I I most insignificant ruler that this country coun-try has ever had He neither has wit non Intelligence but has been a tool In the hands of Mark Ilannn Other Presidents Presi-dents have had a heart or something but this poor follow God forgive him since he knows nothing Is a tool In 1 Vthe hands of the wealthy and It seems very remarkable for Mark Hanna to say that he was notified of a plot for assassination I think McKInley too Insignificant for such a thing What man In the United States Is of sufficient prominence to warrant such a plot she was asked I I am not In a position to say replied I re-plied Miss Goldman who ought to be I killed The monopolists and the wealthy of this country are responsible for the I existence of a Czolgosz If Imperialism would not grow In this country If I the I liberties of the people were not trampled tram-pled underfoot there would have been no violence REFERENCE TO ASSASSIN Referring to the wouldbe assassin Miss Goldman said I feel 1 that the man Is one of those unfortunates who have been driven by despair and misery to commit the deed I feel deeply with L 1 1 him as an Individual and I i would feel with anybody who suffers ff I had I I means I would help him aa much as I I cgiild J would see that he had counsel and thtft justice was done Him I Although the whole woiKI waited eagerly Friday afternoon for the bulletins I I bul-letins from the Presidents bedside j Miss Goldman did not care enough about the report that he had been shot which she heard newsboys shouting to buy a paper It was Saturday noon bo fore her Interest was sufficiently aroused to cause her to buy a newspaper newspa-per containing the story She was more Interested In the arrest of the Chicago anarchists than Jn the Presi dents condition When asked why she did not appear before the police when I I i she learned that she was wanted Miss Goldman said I WANTED TO FOOL POLICE I S I For reasons of my own I did not make myself known I like to fool the police when I can The very fact that I I came to Chicago shows that I had no I Intention i of hiding myself If I had wanted I would have been able to go I from St Louis right across to Canada j I and then they would have looked for I me a long time I came here especially to be on the spot when I saw tho necessity neces-sity of 1 I announcing myself to the po lice and also to be able to help Mr sank and his family they being among the anarchists arrested If the police I w ere able to connect me with the at tack on the President I was ready to give myself up When I arrived In Chicago I went to I a hotel and registered under an as I sumed name Later I went to the home 1 of C P NorrIs whom I have known In I a business way for about a year As i S far as I know he is not an anarchist I but i he saw no reason why one Individual Indi-vidual should not give shelter to mother moth-er In this land of the free and he did I it t ASSASSINS ACT r Asked if she thought Czolgoszs act was praiseworthy from her viewpoint sho answered I am not In a position posi-tion to say whether It was good or bad It Is bad for the man who attempted It I am not In his boots and know nothing about It What I do not see Iswhy they would make more fuss about the Presi dent than anybody else All men are born equal I But some men rise above the equali t y of birth a reporter suggested We are all Interested In the man whom weave h we-ave made our chief I I dont think that men put him In office I think that money put him In S I I office she replied In reference to olgoszs alleged statement that he was inspired by a lecture l of Miss Goldman In Cleveland I the prisoner said As I have repeat edly l said It is foolish to think that this S man would claim that he did tile deed alone and unaided and at the same time claim that I Inspired him If lie had accomplices and still claims ti that he was acting alone do you think he i would have singled me out as the only 1 friend he would not protect by assuming as-suming entire responsibility He may have heard me in Cleveland for I lec 1 I I I tured there twice on May Cth last TALKS OF ARREST As to my arrest If the police had waited a few minutes longer they would have saved themselves the trouble and the glory I was about to give my self up 1 would have done HO last night had l I not had a severe headache I de I cided that I would go this morning and give myself up When Capt Schuettler came out to arrest me lie found me dressing and I had a little fun with himAs As I have told you before I was born In St Petersburg Russia thirtytwo yeais ago I came to this countrv with my sister who Is now In Rochester six teen years ago I speak Russian Ger man French and English 1 came from the middle class In Russia but my heart I hits always been with the poor and 1 downtrodden The Injustice of the Hay I niarkct prosecution made Jin anarchist of me I have taught the creed of an arch ever since |