Show DISCOURSE delivered deliverer in the open air temple block blocks by orson oraon pratt P rafts sunday morning feb 18 on the HOLT nolt SPIRIT and GODHEAD REPORTED BY ny J V LONG I 1 presume that the people who are now before me eel feel with myself somewhat disappointed in their expectations this morning we met together here for fon or the purpose r f hearing bearing an address from our beloved president in regard to the views of this people respecting the government of the iha united states and our relations and connection with hat bat government as a people it Is certainly a disappointment to me and I 1 have no doubt but it Is to au all who are under the sound ot of my voice lut but iut you see that the house bouse Is insufficient to accommodate us all and in consequence of this leing keing requested nf of the erst first presidency I 1 have come out into the open air for the purpose of addressing you according to the strength of my lungs and the wisdom which god may be pleased to give me act vs us all lift up our hearts in faith before the lord that in our disappointment in not dot bearing the president presidents the lord may still be merciful and pour out from on high the holy huly ghost upon us that we may inay be instructed and edified and have our minds streng vile Lili laened ined ly uby the gifts and power and wisdom thereof for nil Nit without hout the gifts and strength of the holy noly spirit to inspire the hearts of those who speak and of those who ilear lear our remarks will be in vain vald and our bearing will be in vain but keep that spirit with us and then notwithstanding the circumstances rinder tinder which we are placed all will be wel well and never let he saints feel discouraged neither forget to pray for or the holy sp rit to rest down upon themy them and upon those who speak to them that each aed all may be directed to act at all times by that spirit that Is able to guide into all truth this certainly Is the object tor for which we are gathered out from the nations of the earth this Is the object tor for or which u v e are assem assembler here today to day at least it ought to be we ire ought not to ba haye baye e any other thing in view only to be blessed edl edi aled fled and strengthened in the lord I 1 am sure that I 1 have no other object in view and I 1 am the last person in my feelings that would come out cut and undertake to speak for the sake take of hearing myself and fitti fittl ng the applause of men for BO so far as speak ingis concerned onn emed I 1 feel more mure like retiring into some gome lonely place ir I 1 never did fe I 1 a debare to be engaged in public life my so far as I 1 can do good but I 1 have a desire to herve me we lord I 1 have a desire to dosoon I 1 have a desire to persuade men and women to become righteous I 1 hame have have a desire to understand the knowledge and things of 0 god godana and those great principles that will be calculated to aid me under all the circumstances of this life as well as in th that it which is to come and for these things I 1 ilves lives live and for this cause believing that it is required of my hands by the lari lart lord Iori 3 I 1 take a part in public life I 1 believe 1 I wiil will pa lii take a text and then I 1 can perhaps collect my thoughts and concentrate my mind upon some subject I 1 am aware that it Is very difficult to speak in he ifie open air airy but I 1 will endeavor to make all hear I 1 know of no more appropriate text than one wh which ich Is e expressed in two word sand it Is therefore a very short one and although I 1 have spoken and written upon the suba subject qt before there may be those present who are not fully at quainter with it and it may also assist the eid eld eldors rs to it felid ferid our principles when they are sent forth to preach the gospel it Is comprehended in JA the following two words wards BE ONE OKE why are we required to be one what Is the abject of be being ing one I 1 do not know of any better way to illustrate this question than this it if this congregation who are present before me mei were required to perform some great 0 and mighty works wherein great strength was necessary to be exerted and each individual went and tried to per orm onn the work given to them to do his acts being individually and separately performed would fall tall to perform the work it may be a work of reat great rest moment which we are called upon to perform requiring all the union unions strength strengths and force that are in our minds if men undertake antwork any work of great magnitude by their united force and strength fley may be able to bring to pabs that which they could not accomplish individually and so it Is with regard uthe things of the kingdom ot of god we are required to be one in order that our exertions and strength may be united and have an influence to accomplish our great end and aim for tor by our united faith and exertions we shall shail be able to prove ourselves worthy the saints ara are universally interested as muchas much as we ares are in the budding bunding up of this kingdom which requires oneness 1 I action the devil is all the time working in opposition to our exertions and he feels quite interested in opposing us by all his forces embodied and disembodied for he has a great many ways by which lie he overcomes the human amilt family and brings them into bondage lie has been a nus nuz tong ous time lime in war with the kingdom of god and has 6 become very wily and has great experience in his and that Is the way he has bis acquired such a great deal of running although he be has not the same degree of know dge that there Is in exercise in behalf of the saints for ie te knows not the mind of god in all things that he be Is thus limited in knowledge Is clearly revealed in the prophet josephs inspired translation of the book f genesis oen Gen rals lie he has many years of experience and BO so baw haw his associates for they have been engaged in a spiritual warfare for many ages oges endeavoring to bring into espirita th the of 0 men to lead them into subjection r his owa own power ana and it requires a strong force to operate against his numerous host consequently we rad r ad that in the last great battle that shall be fought with this adversary all the forces of heaven will be baroug brought rit lit to bear beir be ir against mm him they will all be united in one great body under the direction of our father adam the alef prince the archangel who was appointed in the 11 ginning to overcome the devil by the assistance of his hildren ite lie will marshal all the hosts of heaven and wai wal ft til ill be able to prevail against him and then will the saints be delivered dell deil vered from his Ms power from henceforth and for ever kow now you see th the nature of the thoughts and ans ideas that the savior saylor had bad in ha bit mind when he corum his people to be one we have to learn the lepson of union lier life that when the time shall ghail come ome for tor the commands coni cora mands to be forth by the archangel or the head lead angel that ids nis children may be ready and all under hl hit his command really prepared to go and perform the work wort that 1 Is given them to so do ilow now or in what manner this battle will be fought it 1 Is not necessary in this discourse to explain indeed we do not know all the particular particulars sj for they are not revealed but we may judge from analogy we see tee how the devil operates with us in this cifes fifes ilfe life for he be knows now that our strength Is broken some are in distant settlements settlement and some here and others scattered abroad among the nations and he Is all the time operating and laying plans for the purpose of injuring and afflicting the saints of the living god and he will not alter his evil courses course but will try to entrap as many as possible by his stratagems and lead then astray from the path of life that is to the way be he fights lights against the cause of god whether there will be any physical force used need by celestial beings when fighting against other beings Is not revealed but suffice it to say says that there will be a spiritual strength atrens tb and force exercised and an endeavor made to I 1 overcome the minds of nien men and women and bring them I 1 into subjection and captin captivity ity and when the mind Is brought into subjection there will be a spiritual misery and this Is one of the greatest causes of misery it is not this physical body tb that at suffers in such a case as the one we have mentioned but as IS I 1 have haves years ago frequently told the people that the body has not life in itself it is the spirit that has life and feeling feelings and that is capable of experiencing sorrow borrow and joy and all those changes of sensation to which we are liable in this mortal state when ilen lien we are overcomes overcome the spirit is in bondage bon dages subject to the power of him who has subjected and overcome it and so it will be with those that satan fin tin finally ly overcome overcomes they will become hi hib his prisoners PrIto ners for be be in have prevailed against them and thus they are I 1 I 1 subdued if it they are overcome in their dodys bodies I 1 while I 1 here dreu dred it if minds are bound down in captivity by their great enemy if they render themselves subject to him ft it wiit wilt produce jiro duce misery and pain pains and wretchedness wretch wretchedness edeas edess to ett eveny every such soul this Is compared to a literal pain pano of the fhe addy by bt fire and brim brimstone stoney stones about which so much has been said by the religious world I 1 do not know but there will be a literal bellof hell heli of this description crip tion for ought I 1 know the lord may inay have worlds prepared with plenty of fire and brimstone in them but in my opinion the greatest torment the wicker will have will be the torment and sting of the mind beng brought into subjection to that being that Is continually seeking to overcome and entangle mankind in his lis r mareb snares then it Is necessary that we should be one and hence the lord said to us in the early rise of this church if ye are i ot one ye are not mine 11 why not his why will he not accept of ns us because without union without concentration concentrations it Is clear that we cannot cannat enjoy ourselves as the lord designs we should in short exclusive baha of she principle and spirit of unions union we never can any great work like the one given into our hands the lord therefore ej designed to have havelis lits people united in one to show ns us the nature of his laws lawn andlee necessity of being united so that we may enjoy the ancients and be one with them j we are also commanded to shun all conte contentions eions aid and g stai res fes and all those fl endly eddly eme emanations nations that create a hell held heli bell for asp us and for those with va horn we f are mso yso clato in our families 4 I 1 the lord urd has no sure to work rk apy unies unless I 1 we are unito united and consequently in order to ersy ent discord disi I 1 co rd and disunion the results of every ond ono on going ats ils own OWA way he has warned ns us before hand and bald baid sald that unless we are one we are pot his but let us for a few moments examine this text test the read in ope place flace that thai e the bather ather son sons and holy ghost are one what are ye to understand from froin this expression are we to understand that the of the father and jesus christ are incorporated in 91 ne e no it has no such meaning as this then are theyone soine stine in substance as the methodist discipline disciplines ana ani many ather creeds declare no from the very fact that jwo iwo particles of matter can never be one or in other w words ord where one Is the other is not and cannot cann otle be at the same instant of jimae jimme there may be several separate substances existing fait jat the same timey time possessed of the same game properties leay leAs perr perfections PC and attributes the particles of which they are cop cof com aped ased maybe the same in and kimidy and be possessed of the same amount of wisdom power and intelligence tut still they are separate substances occupying separate portions of space apace so with the persons of the father father ind nd son for instance if we examine the constituents of pure jure I 1 water waters obtained in utah and in france we find them the I 1 same fame not in sub stani etani but in quality A particle of oxygen or of in europe Is precisely the same in quality a in america Ani briva triva orny crony where els else its juet BO so with the father son and lily bily ghost they arm art one in the la tributes attributes and principles t that eat dat exist in their Kubb th the e materials being the same in kind ind and qualities only but I 1 will mill not riot say that be noly holy aghos Is a personage the therace same rame as the fatherland Fat herand son when I 1 speak ut if the hos hol holy ly spirit I 1 speak of it as being a substance that Is precisely the same in its attributes as those of the father and son I 1 speak of it as a substance bubs bub stance lance e that 1 is diffused hout space the same fame as oxygen Is lu in puro pure water or air and as being cognizant of every days dais events an and wherever this holy spirit is it possesses the same attrib attributes and the same kind mud of qualities that the personages ot of the father and the son are of consequently ly the oneness that is here spoken of ofa must be applied to the be attributes and not to the persons them beaves this subject bas has been a great mystery to men in the religious world they could riot not comprehend it and consequently they have conjectured many things in relation to it without having the tiie inspiration ot of the almighty to guide them and hencey hence one has his got one ideas idea and another has conjectured in his way and got another idea quite different dit irom that of hl lis neighbor and in this way men have got up creeds and systems diverse from each other others and contrary to the real truth and about these false creeds they have been striving and contending for ages aiges for my own part I 1 see no mystery about it the subject is plain and simple to those who enjoy the gifton gift ot the holy ghost in order to explain my mind more fully felly upon this jtb eject I 1 will take a father and son aon and i a person who lives with them and works about the farm farmy farms and performs such euch other duties as may be required let those persons have the same lame attribute sy B suppose that one knows an a much as the other and nd that they all act in union and concert tt it could then be said of those three persons persona that they were one and no ne ane one would from that expression suppose oppose them to be one identical person but every one would believe I 1 and understand that they were one in their knowledge one in their views and in their attributes I 1 understand der stand the same with regard to the father sun and holy ghost I 1 will tell you what I 1 believe in regard to the croly ghosts being a person but I 1 know of no revelation that states that this Is the fact neither Is i there any that informs us that it Is not the facts act so we are ift left to form our own conclusions upon the subject and hence some have concluded that they were right and that others were hot bot it Is in fact a matter of doubt with many and of uncertainty i I 1 believe believes with all whether there be a personal I 1 holy noly spirit or not I 1 am inclined to think from some things in the be revelations that there Is such a being bring as a personal holy ghost ghosts but it Is not set forth as a positive facts fact and the lard lord has never given me any revelation upon the subject and consequently I 1 cannot fully make maize up my mind one 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