Show I 1 jj E PEP I 1 NEE S F METAL ernest ernes bamberger ea biberger of utah i and J JJ J day of idaho plead for specific duty on lead before house committee wellington jan 29 the necessity lota duty of 2 cents a pound on oil IL leid ad was as explained to the house coni com littee il on oil ways and means by jerome J day 0 of Nal allace lace depre benting jen ting tile the lead producers of the coeur M dalene mene mining joining di of idaho and by ainest dinnberger Din Ban iberger representing represent ins the utah mine operators their presentation ns as ninde made with a view to having their statements considered when the ways and means committee next nest session starts in to formulate the new tariff bill which Is to supersede the underwood law I 1 mr day made a general statement on en behalf of the industry find and was followed by sir mr damberger who went somewhat more into detail and spoke more particularly of the utah situation bamberger Sam berger takes stand mr Barn bamberger berger took the stand and testified as follows mr chairman and members of the c committee the leadore lead icae ore ove producers of utah come before you not asking a tariff which is prohibitive or one which ill tend to produce extreme profits we present to you tile bald bad plain statement that without protection tile the lend lead industry of utah is as well as all other western estern Nv statys cannot survive tile largest lead producer lias has closed down throwing 1 or more men out of employment several other producers have reduced the extent of their operations at ions many mady of us would cease producing if it were practicable As it is we are mining arid and shipping our products wasting our ore bodies our assets s with no profit in ili connection with schedule apar C paragraphs lot am and we ne favor a 1 specific duty duly on oil lead in fit ores at tile rate of 2 cents per pound mr young how does that compare with tile lie duty in the payne law mr li amberger that is liali a cent higher mr young A linof a cent a pound mr we NW make no recommendation men dation at n this time regarding the duty on lead bullion that does not affect the producer who is not smelting smelling sm elting ills his own ore but we have lave no objection to it a higher rate on oil lead bullion etc giving a differential over lead in ort ore i sufficient to cover the increase cost of 0 smelling smelting sm elting etc in the hie united states ad valorem valoree duty opposed we e oppose an all ad valorem valoree duty because we axe belleve believe that suh such form of duty duly would cause end endless les disputes and controversies and would he be unsatisfactory both to tile the government anil and in a alie tit producer under nn an ad valorem valoree duty a considerable amount of lend lead might he brought into this his country free of duly in or ores containing insufficient lead ter to pay sla smelling elLing charges but high enough in 11 other metals to warrant production pro duclion lead Is tile alio determining factor in most of it the belal mines in utah attah this state burng tile the period of 1913 to 1020 has produced about one sixth ot of the production pro duclion of ilie alie united states and one twelfth of the worlds production over 30 0 per r er cent of all of the lie wage earners of the state slate coveted by the working mens compensation let act are engaged in ill mining milling milling and smelling smelting sm elting mine line product pio plo ducts duct supply 83 85 pox par cent of the railroad tonnage of the state mining and an d allied industries furnish tile great reat market for the states agricultural products I 1 we are contending with high labor and 1 I n I 1 supply costs constantly In ercill ing ine freight an and smelling smelting sm elting charges As production decreases sm smelling elting charges rise rapidly we anticipate in the ali near ni ar f future increased world production the broken hills strike has been set sel tied mexico exico with the opening of it vast resources will bring into the markets large quantities of cheaply produced lead rich deposits at combar datively shallow hallow s depths efficient anil labor give to INT mexico exico ili an age 0 o c cannot overcome the mines of utah are expensive to explore it to develop and to operate the ore bodies as a rule are arc irregular many of them small and often few and ana far be between teen these mines are worker to considerable depths d largely throng shafts with correspondingly high costs and of often felt with heavy purn pumping ping charges mining dividends and profits are a misnomer in addition to more than average returns which should he be exi exa I pecked from an hazardous business I 1 tile the return on oil the capital invested and interest on that capital during tile period of developing it a property proper to a paying basis must not bedis be disregarded rega d A choice must bo be made enado between en 1 win importations on the one baij and on the hie alln r placing a july duty which win preserve tills this industry the first means lie abutting down ot of tit the lead lad mines of the v vest est taking away all incentive to develop the mineral resources of the country the paying out to ti foreign countries large amounts of 0 money loney il the latter moans giving to american labor opportunity to maintain its standard oi of living slid and to american capital encouragement to take tile risk necessary to develop one of the hie natural resources A factory rally may bo be closed for a per lot boil and the owner onner still lias has a factory which he ili again operate A farin may IVY be left idle arid and the farm renia remain iiii and it at most 1110 t the loss itself is felt only over hip ho period of depression mines I 1 blut inn it be maintained when closed adman tile the cost of Is IR prohibitive it workings have carea 4 and have become flooded important data given after bredl crediting biting precious metal values and giving no consideration to depletion cost per pound of lead today is over C cents lead is selling at 4 1 cents lead botian bonanzas zas linie hae been worked out and it is safe to predict an increasing cost or at least no material decrease in cost can be expected we view this question nut not from the point of this period of restricted domand demand but in relation to ordinary conditions we are not looking forward to arid and do not ask for an artificially high price we di d ask for a duty which will maintain american stand ards and provide for the difference between mexican and american labor cots costs mr frear what is the cost of production abroad mr bamberger it Is almost impossible to determine the difference in the costs cost but as a practical example we know that even when lead reaches 4 aa cents we have had biad a deiy serious im pol mr frear the last speaker just before you yoli argued flint tile the fie item of freight rates vias very important be cause of tile distance from the mines in tie the west to new york mr air damberger Eai I 1 have referred to I 1 that hint mr frear what are the freight rates from mexico to new york mr fr damberger bamberger mexico to new nev york I 1 do not know but I 1 ant am satis sails tied lied there here would lie a difference we are asking for tills this specific duty of 2 cents a pound on account 0 of our greater cost of production mr frear I 1 imagined that the freight rat rates from Ill exico to new york aie as much as they are from utah unless they are taken by vessel protection asked for t mr damberger nain berger we feel of course cours e in connection with that e even ve I 1 here e in our home market if that ii were ere our only we should be protected to that extent we feel that we should have at pr protection ole ellon I 1 in order to enable us to meet the lower cost in mexico and to kiep keep k them from dumping clumping their product in ili tills country mr frear tae they been brought in in the past mr mi IS ll amberger they have been r 30 ies s sir tirs lr mr frear that Is what I 1 wanted to know mr it Ban boniberger iberger the importations have been very heavy in the past and x III be in the future mr mainberger rain Dan berger iberger who Is the can call national committeeman comin of utah returned to salt lake recently and fated bated that there Is a feeling of optimism m in the east which is much more noticeable than it was ON two ci months ago while no iio groat gleat demand has yet vet shown itself lie be said bankers and business men alike are much more optimistic ti find and are look iRig forward to a speedy renewal in ili trade trad while all lines may not have been completely liquidated it is the cri consensus 0 census of opinion that the cleaning out ut process has been pretty well accomplished tile 1020 national campaign cot the republican party about 34 mr Ban iberger said and in order to take care of these expenditures the national committee lias has negotiated wr fo r a loan of close to the approximate amount of the deficit sir mr 13 amberger if lie can arrange his affairs will return to new york within the next nest few weeks for tile the purpose of in some soine special work in behalf of the republican publican ditc itc national committee chairman will IL if hays having asked idin him to assist at committee headquarters just prior to the meeting of he committee at washington selled filed for mareb march 3 1021 the an national committee Is anxious to wipe its state sate clean of debt before this march meeting and in an effort is now flow wing icing made to cover till tills indebtedness by eidi each state late lias has bet been ri apportioned an amo nt of the hie deficit based on oil the vote for ur mr harding the trinity litty Epli episcopal copal church will q hold services her here next sunda sunday a aa follows sunday school at a t 10 0 er 1 q c k a ill m M 0 service e at it 11 lectures at p m evening song service at p ra rev at maryer MF M fryer ryer pastor saturday night the M mutual ut ual girls of the first ward went to the houle home of 0 mrs airs lynn orser the young I 1 a ike deport an excellent time the dw dec erat lons at the home were brown light blue and gold ano ani among those orations decorations lec you could see many bees iv vor king they made the trip on a lay wagon and their laughter and brigs was evidence that they were having a good time well folks it Is getting late again this evening ov ening as it has a habit of 0 doing these long winter evenings and ds ais it usually does as time goes on so 30 I 1 will have to hurry and get some dope cooked up tor for you I 1 use that thai word cook advisedly for a fellar laid commenting ou on this department wrote recently 1 I get more food tor for bought out of 0 col squibs squibb than from any other source and t goes without saying that even food for thought has to be cooked up u p or boiled downy down yes both and you know that after what that fellar said or rather wrote 1 I surmise that he be would have said eaid it too lahe had had a ell ch ance I 1 have got git een cen all swelled up though I 1 cin can AIR wear my old hat you know we artists on the typewriter have to wear our hats five or six years tor for we jannot annot accumulate change bange enough to ouy new ones as often as the tha millionaires and would be millio millionaires millionaire nair es who ead what we write but then you know ROW too that bobby burns wrote lt it just right when he wrote A mans a canfora man fora fona that and yet there are hundreds and thousands of people who still dont belleve believe it but lien hen you and I 1 know that everything true requires to be said and written many times and many different r ways before it is thoroughly digested by the many different kinds of human beings I 1 dont like rattlesnakes but I 1 prefer them to those fellows who tell folks folk who who dont hap happen an to agree with those aforesaid fellows that the said folks who dont happen to agree ought to be in an insane asylum asyl uni of 01 a Bumm arlly sentence them to go to h or to prance france or to russia arthur brisbane is the greatest editorial writer of 0 this age being better than this scribe in one great essential thing and that is that hp he draws a big salary and yet I 1 heard a fellow who does noc not agree with some ozithe of the things that arthur writes romark remark kiark the other day that thal brisbane ought ong ht to have been put in t the ite home for feeble minded long ago or been deported with emma goldman I 1 claim that such fellows as wished all this for foi art brisbane are merely demonstrating an absolute lack of 0 intellect and tire are as great a detriment to any country as was wilhelm to the german people A and nd yet I 1 cannot help but feel sorry tor for this class of gentry for they absolutely sol cannot got get as much out of life as you and I 1 |