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Show BALLINGER DENOUNCED AS A LIAR By PINCHOT ON THE WITNESS STAND i : ! relational Declarations Made by the Former j Head of the Forest Service, Who Refers to Ballinger as a Tricky and Dangerous Public Man giving the claimants the benefit of knowledge obtained In the government govern-ment service, Glavls himself is now making use of tho knowledge of public lands by entering into an agreement! with a tttnner dealer. Mr. Barr satrf he had ordered his office In Seattle to send out the agreement between hint-self hint-self and Glavls. auuivw Kennedy, the coal expert, who testified yesterday, also was recalled re-called this morning to arrange a few questions. Kennedy said ho had been Instructed In-structed by Glavls to work in harmony with a coal expert sent by the forest service to Alaska, but that Glavls had nver attempted to Influence him In making hjs report or finding Kennedy said it was Impossible to work in harmony with the forest expert ex-pert who reported the Cunningham coal lands worthless as a commercial proposition. Tho witness estimated tho amount of coal available In the Cunningham group nt ninety million tons. The Alaska coal, ho declared, was a good ns any he had ever seen. The profit to the mine owners ho had estimated at from 25 cents to CO cents a ton. a net value to the owners of from $25,-000.000 $25,-000.000 to ?45,0O0,0OO. Mr. Kennedy said his estimates were rough ones, for he had not gone thoroughly Into Ihe "question of values val-ues In dollars and cents. The Alaska coal fields were the richest rich-est the witness had over seen In his twenfy-fivo years' experience. Mr. Kennedy was questioned in detail de-tail by members of the committee as to the location of the claims with reference ref-erence to the cost, possible .harbors, etc. Washington Feb. 26. When the luncheon recess of tho Balllnger-Pinchot Balllnger-Pinchot investigating committee was ordered at 1:05 p. m.;- it was announced an-nounced that Gifford Plnchot probably prob-ably would bo the first witness at the afternoon session. While disappointed yesterday in their expectation of hearing what GiiTord Plnchot had to tell of his experiences ex-periences with Mr. Ballinger, in relation re-lation to the conservation of the national na-tional resources, the crowd of spectators spec-tators which has followed the Ballin-ger-Plnchot hearing since its Initiation, Initia-tion, gathered in great numbers In Ihe senate office building this morning morn-ing It had been announced last night that Mr. Plnchot would surelv take the stand today, and that his testimony as to his dealings with Mr. Dalllngcr would prove decidedly Interesting In-teresting Mr. Plnchot, It is paid, has spent much time In the preparation for his examination. It was announced that he would call a number of witnesses 1 to bring out charges It was said he. would make against Mr. Ballinger, especially with, regard to the disposition disposi-tion of water power sites. Mr. Plnchot also will do all that he can, it Is predicted, to substantiate Mr. Glavls and will say that when Glavls came to him with his statement of facts last year at Spokane he believed be-lieved him in every detail and that he believes blm now. Washington. Feb. 26. Gilford Hn-chot, Hn-chot, taking the witness stand at tho Balllnger-I'inebot Inquiry this afternoon, after-noon, read a statement to the commit-lee commit-lee before being sworn, in which ho charged Secretary Ballinger with falsehood nnd disloyalty to President Taft, ard declared that Mr. Ballinger bliould bo dismissed from the service. ! Washington, Feb. 26. Mr. Plnchot made to the Balllnger-Pinchot Investigation Inves-tigation committee this statement of his charges against Secretary Ballinger Ballin-ger when ho wont on tho stand today: "What I desire to lay before tho committee Is a consecutive story of my experience with Mr. Ballinger in r ! itlon to tho conservation of natural nat-ural resources. Among several other matters thor are three of principal importance to bo called to your atten- ; tlon. "The first of these concerns the prl-; prl-; Icy devised and Inaugurated by tho lust administration, of protesting ; agp.Inst monopolistic control of tho ' water power sites owned by the pco-, pco-, rio. "I shall show you that Secretary ! Ballinger entered his office with tho I clear determination to make short work of that policy; that he rovorsed It so far ns he was allowed to do so; that he restored tho power sites to entry without the remotest Idea of re-wlthdrawlng re-wlthdrawlng them, and, that finally, when I charged him last autumn to the President with belDg an enemy of the policy of conservation, ho clapped the climax by giving to the President himself an explanation of ; his conduct thut was essentially false. "The second has lo do with my connection con-nection as a government officer with the Cunningham coal cases and with the Glavls charges. I shall show you how the forest service became Involved In-volved in these cases and how Glavls f -.lonilttcd his facts to me. I believed f th'-n. as I believe now, that he told f the truth. I am convinced now, as I j was when he came to me. that Glavls j was a faithful public servant, and that ! the lacts which he presented nrovo J that Mr. Ballinger had been ifsalth-1 ifsalth-1 ul to his trust as a servant of the people, and as tho guardian of public I property of enormous value. "1 shall show that, since I learned tho facts you have heard from Glavls nnd others, which I am about to lay 1 he-lore you. I have acted steadily In . the- Hcht of them, as it was my duty ; both as a public officer and as a citizen citi-zen to do. I shall show you that, In pursuance of that duty, 1 laid before j the President, both my word of mouth i and In a letter of Nov. 4. a statement j of my conviction that Secretary Bal-; Bal-; linger has been a dangerous enemy to conservation. j '1 shall bhow you that this letter j was submitted by the President to Mr. Ballinger and that, as part of his ro-; ro-; ply, he laid before the President a j statement concerning the Cunningham coal cases, which statement Is shown j by undisputed documentary evidence . lo be absolutely fAhse in throe essential essen-tial particulars. It will then appear ' that Mr. Ballinger wilfully deceived J the President and was disloyal io him. 1 "The third principal matter is con-' con-' cerned with the attitude of this gov-' gov-' enitunt in law and administrative ! practice toward the conservation of ! the national resources belonging lo ' lie people. 1 "I deblre to show you that the story i cf Glavls' courageous and successful fght to protect tho property of the i people, which ended In IiIb dismissal ' without ,i hearing, Is but a ringlo I chapter In tho history of the public lands. I shall show you that under our present law and practice the more , diaicult task falla on thoso who would ' protect the public property and not on i those who would despoil It, and that I i.nder the present system the betrayal In.o monopolistic control of what bo- loiigs to all of us Is made easy, and, 1 oi ten in practice, Inevitable. "The Imperative duty before this f country Is not merely to get rid of an ! untalthful public servant. A far more Important duty Is to bring about a f Kiidamental change In tho law and i th practice toward conservation, to prevent for the future what has been J in the pubt the most Inevitable sacrl-I sacrl-I r.ce f the public welfare and to make poosll'le hero th utilization of the ! natural resources and the natural advantages ad-vantages for the benefit of all the people Instead of merely for the profit of a few. "When this 6tory has been told, and the witnesses whom I shall ask you to mil have been heard, you will realize real-ize that tho Intere-sts of tb country , are n.-t pafo In Mr. Balllngc-r's hands, and Hiat tho public demands of this c.juirailtee a verdict In harmony with tbe general conviction that tho secretary secre-tary of the Interior has been unfaithful unfaith-ful both to the public whose properly he ban endangered, and to tho President, Presi-dent, whom he has deceived." I'. W. Barr. the Seattle timber dealer, deal-er, who became so tangled up on the stand jeotcrday when testifying as to an pg-ecnient ho had entered Into with Louis R. Glavls as to the location of timber claims following tho lattcr's dh-r-ilssal from the service, was recalled re-called today. ' The witness wis qutloned further concerning his timber operations. The queatlcns were- directed i.i the eudeov-, eudeov-, or to prove that, while Glavls lr. charg-, charg-, lus Mr. Ballinger with hiving become counsel for the Cunningham group fter belns land commissioner and |