Show alk I 1 az 4 N av T THE HE old timer likes to think the old days and the old ways were wen 0 the best As the tha years slip by he lets his imagination build up the stronger spots and lop oft the weaker turns his ancient idols carried into action certainly baseballs two most lamous famous 6 tars stars for SO 30 years from 1905 to ta 1935 were ty cobb and babe bi ruth cobbs big league career open ed in 1905 babes in 1914 for more X 77 than 10 years their careers overlapped their counterparts in 1911 1941 are bob feller an and d joe e dimaggio DiMagg to bob r feller Is or should be one of the lie all time grantland rice pitching greats the same rating applies to joe demag glo gio as a hitter and outfielder without attempting attempt mg to rate the value of ty and babe against bob and joe there is one department at least where the old timer can expand his chest and prove his point this Is IB the matter of color cobb and ruth packed an e enlarged amount of personality in their playing systems they had flame flare dash they caught and held the fancy of the crowd feller and are both on the quiet unobtrusive side who like life better away from the mob B both ath are friendly serious young men elio make I 1 their entire contribution as a star pitcher ind a star outfielder they make no claim or pretensions to any form of 0 so called color cobb and ruth have always been exactly the opposite they were actors as well as ball players both were on the exciting side and a big part of their crowd appeal had no particular connection with mechanical ch anical skill they had plenty of that disagreeing with ty it pains us to disagree with such an old pal as tyrus raymor raymond id cobb I 1 was in atlanta when ty was in au gusta around 04 or 1905 and we wd headed north from I 1 the red clay hills at about the same date ty naturally likes one rune run at a f Ss athe time same game best he likes the less lively ball ire he has something on his ty cobb side of the ment with respect to this but the he modern game Is more dramatic in the old days a three or four run lead was usually decisive today it may mean little and the crowd knows it both In infielders fielde rs and outfielders especially infielders have to work at a far faster clip to handle whistling drives that come their way the home run is still the main crowd thrill I 1 must disagree with T ty y on another point on his all time allstar all star team the pitchers he names are walsh alexander mathewson johnson plank and feller what about a pretty fair pitcher by the name of denton tecumseh cy young the paoli phenois Phe all cy did was to win ball games carries in two major leagues this winning count totals more games than the great majority of pitchers ever pitch they talk about pitchers who can win 20 ball games a 0 season cy young averaged better than 20 games ga mes a year for more than 20 years about cy young young did his pitching for cleveland st louis and boston working in both leagues lie ile came up f from rom paoli ohio in 1890 with hay in his hair C cy ec a huge hulk of a fellow had speed control c a fine head and a stout heart and you can emphasize control and smartness cy worked from 1890 through 1911 and when he had finished he had passed by something like winning games of Walter johnsons mark in second place cobb picks ed walsh and eddie plank both fine pitchers but old cy won more games than both together I 1 ran across cy a short while back he gave me then one of the secrets of his success how flow did I 1 ever win games he said 1111 heres cres one reason I 1 had four different pitching motions that I 1 made look alike also I 1 think that I 1 was the first pitcher to coyer cover pitching motion completely id practically turn my back to 0 o the batter and the ball would be on him before lie he was set he explained 1 I 1 also made a close study cy said of what they wanted to hit and what they want to hit you dont think I 1 ever gave wahoo sam crawford a pull hitter any ball rie he could pull not a chance a big part of pitching pit chini to know a hitters style and to have enough control to put the ball where you want it to go there are too m many any pitchers today who any id idea ea what a batters weakness is nor do they have the control to match this weakness when vaen they do know and alm al mostaa bad as not knowing |