Show STORY OF REBATES I TO GOAL COAL SHIPPERS Robinson Grants Requests o of I R Railroad Attorneys to Take Part LATER ASKS CO CONFIRMATION in lie Tol Totton ton Also b ors Favors p Corporations in inIn In In IntI tI Charge of oC discrimination a against Independent 1 coal operators III In favor or o othe of oC the tue Pleasant Pheasant Valley ailey Coal company predecessors H d ces rs of or Iho tho ho Utah Fuel compan company com corn puny pan were made mado at th time the hearing hC of the time Joint l legislative commission yesterday ar when II 11 A. A Smith of or Frick Edwards it Smith attorneys appeared before that hod body Incidentally the llio Itlo Grande railroad antI and the Utah Fuel company Interested aliko alike In Jim the present present pres pres- ent Inquiry were r by at at- at After ner the time tho direct examination of or Mr tir Smith E E. M. M Allison jr jl attorney for tor forthe forthe the thc Utah Fuel company who conducted conduct conduct- ed that comp company's ny side of or the Investigation investigation gation atlon before the time Interstate Commerce commission asked the committee If Ie there was sas an any objection to the appearance ap ap- ap- ap of counsel for the hc railroad and amid coal company Parley L. L Williams Will farms iams district attorney for tor the time Harriman Harrl- Harrl man nian lines lincH was also present ent but hi his work worl consisted ll of oC consultation with E. E M. M Allison on on Is hi Agreeable Chairman Hany J. J Robinson on g granted grant grant- nt- nt ed el tho Limo request st of oC Mr lr Allison and then the time committee for tor confirmation Senator G George Lawrence on time thc grounds that It was wa not a judicial inquiry and amI that witnesses were not held tic Id down to the same imo rules of or evidence evi- evi dence as governed trial cases Chairman Chairman Chair Chair- man Robinson interposed a suggestion that if If time the counsel would not hot cm- cm witnesses es he could exam cross Inc ine The Time committee o then theli voted ute 1 to allo allow illow Mr Mi 11 Allison to appear for tho tito Gould Sir Mr Smith ha had testified that in him 1898 he ic and amid a number of or other n men nn n form form- id cd a voluntary association and ac- ac possession pos of oC valuable coal de- de deposits posits In Carbon Cambon county near Hales five miles this side sille of on th tile the Rio Hlo Grande railroad They opened a i vein OO feet from flom time the tracks They to ship StIll coal but had a Teat great deal of difficulty in securing cars cams were always Int late an and tho the in incie- incie c- c concern could not count counton on on hem at nn any time While it was practically cally catly Impossible for Smith timid and his associates to get et coal the mines nt at at and arni Clear Cicar Creek were shipping hou of or tons ions a du day an and seemed to o nave have plenty of or cars Independents Frozen Out sai said sait he lie had imad to la pay ra as freight to C o the Rio Kio Grande 2 2 n n. ton to to 10 Salt Lake Lal c a distance of miles miles- anti and all down lown grade 11 H saul said ll all attempts lo to loet to get et a n lower lu rate were were futile lIe He said he ic also opened a vein sein in lit canon canon can can- yon on on omi tho time to li but hut the tho ho anit about obtaining 1 cars ars Wa was experienced there Because they could not market cl time the lUo product at a pl on account of oC lack Jacl of or cars calt and anti jie lie he high freight rate the two mines were cro shut down Senator Lawrence asked ed Mr h Smith JC if the the- Rio Grande discriminated a against time the Independent fn in favor favol avor of time the Pleasant Valley Coal Coat corn compan pany They shipped an immense amount of f coal sal said Mr fl Smith I think the thc P. P V V. Coal company shipped from froh to tons tomis a n. lIa day lIac We c were to tu get et cars There was placed in Imi n my hands press letter-press copies of ur What purported to be he the time Rio Ilio Grande Grando and amid the Pleasant Valley Coal company The Time copies were closely typewritten and 1111 showed bowed the time names of oC persons who welo retaIl etall dealers tho the amount of or coal thc they hey had obtained and amid tho the amount of rebates thc they were entitled to There t ivere fifteen or 01 sixteen cn letters anti and thc they hey c. u LL period of oC two or or three years rears Reference was also allm mudo to of or checks I dont don't recall who vho signed ned those those- letters Fetters but htmL I 1 know that hat It IL was teas officers Of the P. P V V V. any and the Rio Grande Gronde The rime copies were ivero handed to me mime mc amul I was going to to Jue preserve them I 1 wanted to tu get an investigation U hut htmL when i it seemed that I could hl not lut I 1 think I destroyed them When I 1 moved m my I think t the the- G Gle le letters were U destroyed I Another Land LautI J Deal cal Around tho the acre ICO-acre IGO acre tract we wo had hall Chris K Jensen obtained a n row of oC forties by hy going lief before re the land hand board hoard There was a contest over the thc ownership We c offered 3 OO for his imbi land lana He got zot It for fot 1200 OO front from the land board hoard It It- It finall finally fou found Its way Into the possession ilon or of the PI Pleasant Valley Vailey Coal company Jensen en later in informed informed In- In formed us that he had taken en it up for tor forthe forthe the Pleasant Valley Coal company Atthe At tho the hearing in Iii the land Jand office the thc P. P V. V Coal c company campan was as represented by hy Major Bird and amid experts to show that It was wa not coal c al land Mr Smith sail said al he ime believed that such things s dd d not mIot encourage I-a I o independent operators nor imor the development of or coal coalmines mines He JIb said that if a maximum tn tariff on coal could coul be he established hc at atthe at atthe the basis is it Jt would woul be a good timing thing Why 11 tb do you ou think a maximum tariff would be e beneficial asked a l cd c J J. F F. F Tolton rOllou leader of oC the time house whoso questions ques ques- thins Huns 1 suggested l a n line of oC defense of the ho coal Coni company pan and railroad railroad- Because answered U Mr 11 Smith A railroad ou ought ht to transport coal at atless letS less than 2 a n. ton for or that distance con considering i that the time grade brade Is all down hill hili TIIU Those e Letter Col Copies s Mr 11 Smith said the time press letter copies coples cop GOP ies les pm to show that reLates were given cn b by time the railroad hud had be been betin n handed to him by hr 1 E E. A. A Wilson art an attorney now dc deceased ca cd hut but he lie could not tea say how v th they came Into his pos pos- session When Senator tried tiled to learn who had te tel teen l the time letters hottel's let hot tel's bc besides ld M Mr Ir Smith President Love Loo of or the time senate nate spoke ot up and amid said they had imad been shown hown to him Attorney Allison's examination cross brought out ut the names of oC Charles D. D I Harding and E. E A. A Wilson as us a associates asso asso- socrates so- so elates crates of or Mr Il Smith in lii th company which cam canim to be c known n as s the time Carbondale Car- Car bondale al Coal company afterward time the Salt all Lako Fuel C company A sidetrack cl had been constructed Ol near the mine 1111 but no spur had hiatt been built buill by IW the time road Only jeven seten or 01 eight men Inch worked work worl ed 1 at the tite mine and time the output was M les Ic iem s than limit tons a n. day aday 1 a Mr Smith was was' r asked aked d If he lie knew know that hat the time Rio Hlo Grande wa was furnishing n tons of or coal a da day to the S Salt lt Lako Lake and amid that It Ir tills tHis c coal al was not furnished the Salt alt Lake Lako Route would woul probably have to io shut down own lIe He did not know kno that Mr 11 Allison dwelt upon lIpon the letters letters' purporting to tu how correspondence between th time the Rio Ilio Grando and amid tile the P P. V V. V Coal jut hut Mr Mt n Smith could not recall the tho details of oC the thc l letters nor nul how the they y cumo into Int his possession pos I Isaac aae Barton who tho was wis a director of the Carbondale Coal company testified that the th were forced to o cease operations In hi the winter of f C 1005 1905 The rime company w was S lina Jo to get a n spUta spur track from rom H the e Rio Gran e. e Because of bC the opposition I l n nto to independent concerns lie hc t said l it vas as practically Impossible to get set capital cupi- cupi tal al interested in In Independent coal companies an and because tho the mine could n not miOt t be ue financed the they Were cre relin qu Ish e d Mr Dai Barton ton said ai ho he bethought thought that a maximum tariff woUld increase the chalices for development c Of C the time mines lIe admitted that Ills company hind had cut the time market price in Salt Lake John K l' Dooly testified that he hc had always I received fair fall treatment so far faris farus is us tho delivery of or coal wa waft concerned He Ho said he wa was ivam unable to lo buy huy coal coat at atthe at athe atthe the he mine mimic because the thc Utah Fuel Euel company corn com pany lany told him to get It Jt through ro- ro tall tail dealers lIe He paid Jalc a ton oh Jit ju Salt Lake 2 In iii O Ogden en where lie he le has hns a n. factory He lIe called attention to time the fact that the constitution con of or the state makes maltes it imperative that there shall khall be he a a. a regulation of rates and amid that tho carrying out ut o of the provisions of this instrument was far al' al more moro Jle necessary cs- cs sary sarr and anti would be more effective e than a railroad commission hill bill Ho lIo paid that If Ie the rate from room lom was proportionately the as that from rom Rock noel Springs l R 1 would bo ho a t better bet bM- tel Let thing for 01 tho the man manufacturing In In- In of Utah Ho 1113 salt said that until th there ie was teas a 8 cheaper rate for foe coal Salt Lake would not amount to much a aan as asan asan an Industrial center Corner Gomer Thomas Th state coal mine In Inspector Inspector In- In wn way also to have ha t hut but it was l late te when the con committee ad- ad burned The Time next hearing will wIil ho bo oh oil Wednesday morning nt t 10 o'clock and many subpoenas wilt will be bo I issued |