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Show ‘ ___ TheSaltLakeTribune NATION Thursday, May 6,1999 AS Willey Inferred a Threat From Clinton Lawyer’s Request 60 Minutes” TVinterview last year and again on the witness stand Tuesday. During the Jones deposition, Willey also said she couldn't rememberher off- ALEXANDRIA, Va. — Kathleen Wil- Trying to explain her memory lapses, Willey said the Fifth Amendment refer- was at risk of incriminating herself — and other “badgering” by Clinton lawyer day and ‘‘many, manytimes” since. Robert Bennett affected herstate of mind ley testified ‘Wednesday that she felt duringthe deposition. ton’s lawyers suggested she assert her called her testimony “‘an absolutely baldfacedlie.” He said he met with Willey in the presence of her lawyer but never suggested that she assert her Fifth Amendment rights nor threatenedher. Clinton has denied under oath that he made a sexual advance toward Willey. White House spokesman Jim Kennedy had no comment Wednesday. Willey alsotestified that she had been frightened by a threatening encounter, threatened when one of President Clin- Fifth Amendmentrights rather than answer questions about an alleged sexual advance by thepresident. “T felt like that was a threat coming from thepresident,” shesaid. Willey is the star witness against her formerfriend, Julie Hiatt Steele, whois charged with lying to investigatorsin tes- vaahy last year that contradicted Wil- ley’s Defense attorneys hammered at Willey’s credibility, asking why she nowremembersthe alleged encounter with Clin- ton and herconversations with Steele in much more detail than she did the first timeshetold the story under oath — during her January 1998 deposition for the She said Steele “wanted to be very muchinto this story” and “wanted to make Away from the courthouse, Bennett two days before the deposition, with a stranger who mentioned her missing cat andslashed cartires. In testimony crucial to the prosecutors’ case against Steele, Willey described Clinton grabbing and kissing her on Nov 29, 1993, during a meeting in the White money off of it,” even suggesting they sell Willey’s story to a tabloid newspaper. Kathleen Willey Steele is charged with lying underoath to Kenneth Starr's investigators. She told FBIagents and two grand juries that she never heard Willey’s allegation against the president until 1997, when, she said, Willey asked herto lie to corroborate her story to a reporter. The third day of the trial focused on contradictions between Willey’s testimony in the Jones deposition and her later statements to prosecutors, in a nationally televised interview and from the witness stand. Colorado Shootings Boost Support for Gun Control didn’t recall,” Willey answered testily. On cross-examination, Steele's lawyers showed that Willey had been given a sec- ond grant of immunity from prosecution from Starr's office as a resultof thatlie Then a former memberofStarr's team. who is now a defense lawyer representing Steele, peppered Willey with questions about why during the Jones deposition she answered 63times that she couldnot recall key facts about the encounter with Clinton or subsequent conversations aboutit. Less than two monthslater, defense lawyer Eric Dubelier demonstrated, Wil ley provided a wealth of information to Starr's office on the alleged incident after being granted complete immunity from prosecution. Andshe provided a detailed version of the encounter with Clinton in a Those mostlikely to shift posi- tions after the Colorado shootings were senior citizens and women. Just over half of older Americans supported tougher gun controls before the shooting, compared ward. Among women, two-thirds supported tougher gun laws in the first poll; about three-quartersfavored them after the shootings. child younger than 18 commits a crimewith a gun. the shootings what one step would be most effective in stopping school violence, 27 percent said reducing violence in TV shows and movies, 23 percent favored using metal detectors in schools and 21 percent chose increased counseling for teens. It stands to reason that having more violent images in movies, TV showsand video games would shootings, 51 percent said tougher gun laws would be moreeffective, while 39 percent said better enforcement A similar increase was found whenpeople were asked whether they favored or opposed stricter gun-controllaws, In the first poll, 55 percent were in favor and 40 percent were opposed. The second poll found 63percentin favor and 31 percent opposed. WhetherPresident Clinton and others who arecalling for tougher * gun laws succeed may depend, in part, on whether the increased support is permanent or merely a short-lived reaction to the tragedy. Clinton’s proposals include raising the legal age for handgun possession from 18 to 21 and holding negligent parents respon- sible when their children commit crimes with guns. “It just seems it's too easy for minorsto get guns, notjust off the affect people's behavior, said Gary MacTavish, a 54-year-old engineer and father of three grown children. ‘American private industry spends billions of dollars on advertising because it works,” said MacTavish, of St. Croix Falls, Wis. The error margin in the most recent AP poll of 1,006 adults was plus or minus 3 percentage points. The error margin in the earlier poll of 765 adults was plus or minus 4 percentage points. Given a choiceoffive factors as most to blame for the Colorado shootings — school officials, net — aboutfouroutof10 point- flect on the r of parents. “When I saw the Colorado thing, it scared me lot,” said tions. in the garage,” she said, suggest- ing that should have raised ques- ‘Why is my son dressing in black? What's going on in the ga rage? I do blame their parents. Big Brew-haha Bubbling Over Bud Beer Ad in Gay Magazine an unusual Anheuser-Busch ad in a gay magazineis on the verge of becoming a national brouhaha. Caught between complaints from supporters of the Rey. Jerry Falwell and praise from gayrights advocates, AnheuserBuschhas taken an even moreun: usual step of creating two toll free numbers for those on each side to soundoff. On April 22 an Anheuser-Busch ad ran in a bimonthly St. Louis gay magazine as part of its an- nouncement that it would be the key sponsorfor St. Louis’ gay fes- tival in June. and the Associated Presspickedit up Given the publicity, Gorg thoughtit prudentto send e-mail to people in the gay community urging them to call the company in support of the ad. Within days, Anheuser-Busch was so overwhelmed with calls that people reported trouble get ting through. Gorg was amazed by the worldwide responseit gener ated. But those in the gay community weren't the onlyones using e-mail to get out the word. 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