Show NO CHURCH RULE BULE the had occasion the other day to point out how bow utterly without foundation to the allegation that the mormon church assumes control over the political views of lie its members now comes the tribune today and endeavors ende avora for the time or more to prove that church rule exists but as aa la is usual when that paper essays to prove it itie is u total failure toe tribune is always strong as ae long aa 98 it deals deala in assertions and hurls burls epithets but when it cornea comes to a calm on logical grounds it to la as lott lost as aa a pru prodigal prudi digal Kal without any hope of ret return our morning col mp first gives gevea a few quotations which are here reproduced As the world is governed too mu chand as there is not a nation or dynasty now occupying the earth which acknowledges almighty god as their lawgiver law giver and as crowns won by blood by blood must be maintained maintain I 1 go emphatically for a theo democracy where god and the people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men JOSEPH SMITH another quotation react what are the present forms of political governments govern mente menth they are the image seen by 9 when will the present forms of political and religious religions government come to an end in the present age by what means by the kingdom of god and a great destruction what is the kingdom of god A theocracy or in other words a kingdom governed by direct revelations from god and ano another t and when a man is appointed to preside the saints are called callea upon to sanction that appointment and every saint maint has a perfect right to vote for or against it but if they should all vote against it it would not invalidate the legality of that appointment as elder spencer observed in the council last night A A man is in at libert liberty to vote himself to hell if he be wants to tle hobt of theae paragraphs we are re tod toad to Is from the DESERET NEWS wea vol 7 the u i lifers irom from the Aidlen millennial nial star volumes 10 and 13 18 and we tube take it tor for grauten they are verbatim et literatim litera tim the above the tribune exclaims ai lb uie the doctrine of the me 1 mormon church that lell is ia a government by oud gud through his priests on earth the head td of the church la IS in point if L f tact fact the vicegerent un on earth of god but there is where the paper to la wrong the con cluelon clu eion slon Is IB nut dot warranted by the prem aises chere la in nt on word lu in the f by which the as to mormon church rule lu in politics p can tw dt an a the judicious reader will see aee at a gl glauce alice in the first paragraph quoted joseph joaeph smita ld views are given in a general wa way afy y concerning governments that remarkable man or of this age whose buind seemed to penetrate evera ever subject he h took up for consideration expresses the ju that the 1110 to IB governed too much that is that there to in tou too great a tendency tend eucy paternalism paterna liam not noi to any aay despotism lu in the world he thinks thinka the cause of this is that the nations us lot LOI acknowledge god as ae their law giter gilter and that the remedy would le be a tn theode theo boue de po cracy iti Is there anything in this to prove that the mormon church wants ti rule in politics we dely anyone to p produce aduce a single word from joseph smithy mouth or pen to the effect that he claimed to dictate the political faith of anybody he was waa a mau who lived and died lor for the cause oi 01 true ameri can liberty and he gave to others what he so much loved himself him Relf aud the same ie ia true ot of his noble the second quotation has baa us he little bearing upon the point lu ILI controversy tro versy veray irbe idt idea a is expressed that th breant wurms cf government un on earth will finally be merged in a new form a theocracy or ibe kingdom ut of god gd 11 1 1 the mormons cormons belleve this in common ald millious ot I 1 christians Christ lanti who expect the coming 0 of a millennium in which christ sll reign but what has this to do with chinch rule in this age pre vilus to the tle bible seems to staw stale tant a time lime will come when by the interference of leuce letice a radical duane iu in the political conditioned condit ione ol of tue the world boball take place but blat the cormons mormons look upon this as austila future as an do other christians in ID tut the meantime ime we believe that govern luerle were instituted of bod fr f r the benefit ot 01 man and that all men are bound to sustain and uphold the respective governments in chien they reside PY that Is 18 the mormon creed upon this thie subject the third quotation ution gives a mormon Elu erlis views w as to the validity ut aa appointment in cast it should not lot be sanctioned by voters it line has nu no bearing whatever upon political gaiters and auoe not prove that the cormons mormons do not enjoy liberty to the extent if bittne tue tribunes P abune still insists that the Mor motto are huleu by a low few meu men ol of influence it is only fair to again call for proofed fri show up in what meetings of the church political matters are or otherwise discussed buebe meetings are all public it should tie de easy eamy to prove the allega gioi i bau it teny inundation loun dation in fact and until it has baa bedou proved those who reiterate the guht be branded of the worst type we still claim for every citizen whether he be holds RD an office or not the privilege of free thought and speech and the right freely accorded by our antagonist to br dr I 1 liffa liff and od others on oa the other side aide Delon belonia its as aa much to our outside side that and nothing more Is what we contend tor for the object of the la its well enough understood in this thia territory anu ana it we are oot dot mistaken mia taken the people at large begin to understand it too its rage in leso lean terrible than it au to be its ita allusion lueion al to the abe from nauvo kauvo only allows that what whatever eveIr else elee is ie changed chun ged its own dispo remains the same it would no doubt be gratifying to some to have a mob ten hand band and lead them on OD tu a ferit of carnage and plunder plu noer they would no doubt do their beat to brioc about a emblanc em blan e ul of excuse for or civil war fur for that to is in barthony bartu ony with the whole policy of the party ot of pact issues that to la the extent ol oi their patriotism patriot iBm l and their bilici tude for morality but amid all such tn rats one thing to is clear that the mormons cormons must be a very good pt ople since no other charge can be laid to their doors doo rathan than this false one that hat they in politico iOB are subject to church rule |