Show presidents CABINETS washington february ia 13 1893 within two weeks president cleveland will have a new cabinet but who will compose it no one really mally knows there are only one or two appointments which are certain and the cabinet ol 01 0 1893 will probably be as much of a surprise as was that of 1885 you can never bet on a cabinet until the names go into the senate and many of the slates that are made before the president gets to washington are broken after his arrival general genera grant reorganized his list again and again before he sent in the list of names which were confirmed james A garfield galfield gal field made some changes after he left mentor and there were a number of statesmen who had bad the right to expect to be in president Lincol ns cabinet who found themselves left out president harrison did not decide as to three of the members of his cabinet until he was on his way to his inauguration and president Clev elands last official family was a disappointment to three fourths of his party at the time its members were selected JOHN SHERMAN TALKS OF CABINET the stories of how our cabinets have been made have never been published the correspondence concerning thern them was private and personal and such matter seldom creeps into the newspapers during the past week I 1 have ca called le upon a number of ex cabinet officers and others who had to do with cabinet appointments and have chatted with them as to how some of the presidents have chosen their official families I 1 first called on senator john sherman who was you know secretary of the treasury under president hayes and who came very near being ii in the first cabinet of president lincoln this cabinet was not made up finally until the president arrived in washington and the slate was changed again and again during the time which elapsed between the election and the inauguration among the men talked of tor secretary of the treasury was john sherman then chairman of the ways and means committee of the house of representatives presenta tives and already prominent as an authority on financial questions he had just been the candidate of his party for speaker of the house and haf had held his forces together during the longest balloting for speaker that congress had ever had and lie he was the most ent young man of his party this hi 1 s w was as thirty two years ago and john sh sherman e rm an has as from that time to this been either in the senate or the cabinets cabinet making his continuous record at washington from the time he came here as a member of Cong congress until today the longest of any of our great men in the public service I 1 found senator sherman in his library at his hemeon home on K street last night he said president lincoln had to select his cabinet with great care the situation was so critical and the people were so divided by factions and by the great questions before the country that it was necessary to have a cabinet which could viol work together and in which there should be no unharmonious or antagonistic elements among the first members chosen were seward as secretary of slate montgomery blair as postmaster general and salmon P chase as secretary of the treasury the choice of effir W chase hung fire for some sometime it was tho thought t front from the e opposition of blair and seward and it was at this time that president lincoln I 1 have been told thought of making me secretary of the treasury in looking back back upon the situation today I 1 am surprised to see how little I 1 cared for the office my ambition was then to be speaker of the house I 1 bad been a cand candidate and had come within athin a vote or so of being ejected and it was generally conceded that 1 I was to be next speaker this at that time seemed to me a much more desirable office than that of senator of the united states and when the legislature met in ohio to elect a senator I 1 did not feel at all anxious to be a candidate my name was presented however and there were a number of ballots during most of which I 1 had gf a larger vote than any other candidate but not enough to secure my election I 1 was here at washington at this time and I 1 telegraphed them to withdraw my name it was withdrawn and the balloting went op on for the other candidates my votes being scattered among them after some time durin during 9 which the balloting continued without any sigh of an election I 1 was tele telegraphed ra hed to come out to ohio I 1 did so an and my name was again brought before the and I 1 elected to the le legislature was vu united cited states senate in the meantime salmon P chase had been appointed as secretary of the treasury and the senate confirmed his nomination SENATOR SHERMAN AND PRESIDENT HAYES HAVES how about your acceptance of the treasury portfolio under president hayes senator sherman I 1 asked there is no special story connected with it 11 replied mr sherman 1 I was notified by president hayes that he would like to have me for his secretary of the treasury some time before his inauguration and while the question of his election was still pending I 1 accepted this position largely because I 1 wanted to carry out the resumption policy that I 1 had pro proposed posed in the senate felicy f think myself and mr evarts were the two first appointments that president hayes decided upon I 1 am sure that he made no promises before his nomination and none until atter alter his election HOW CABINET OFFICES WERE SOLD speaking of president lincoln Lincol ns cabinet this statement of senator sherman as to offices being promised before hand could not be made as to it lincoln started into his campaign handi capped with cabinet promises his nomination was largely secured through such promises and I 1 had a chat the other day with piter peter S grosscup of chicago who has just been appointed united states states district judge by president harrison which gave me the true inwardness ward ness of this part of our history mr grosscup was the law partner of leonard swett Pies president ident Lincol ns longtime long time triena friend and political adviser leonard swett and david davis were the real workers cathe 1 the illinois delegation at the nominating convention and the circumstances of the nomination were told by swett to mr grosscup said he when the convention met the chances of Lincol ns nomination were by no means certain and swett and davis were the only true workers in the delegation T they hey promised every everything thi n in order to get votes and they agre acred that indiana kentucky and pennsyl ean syl vania should have places in th the cabinet binet if these states would vote for lincoln in the convention i As soon as the nomination was made they went to president lincoln and told him of the contracts they bad made for him and the names of the iben men whom the states would probably want to ap appoint t president lincoln said asto I 1 indiana ana caleb smith is a good man and I 1 would woula be glad to have him in my cabinet I 1 dont object to james speed of kentucky but I 1 dont know about simon cameron either justly or unjustly he has been charged with having been accessory to certain jobs I 1 am makin making this campaign as aa honest old abe and T F want to avoid even the appearance of evil it was a long time before davis and swett could accomplish their ends but cameron at their entreaty got the of war smith of indiana was made secretary of the interior and later on in the administration james speed of kentucky was made attorney general genera cameron was afterward appointed minister to russia and he left the cabinet on that account EX postmaster GENERAL TYNER TALKS af OF CABINET judge tyner of indiana now attorney general of the p post ost office department was in the cabinet of president grant as postmaster general he was first assistant po postmaster st master 1 general during the first part of grants administration and he ha has s g given iven me some interesting data about general grants cabinet methods I 1 called upon him yesterday in his office at the post office department during my conversation he said general grants cabinet was you know a surprise to every one it was generally th thought U ht that he would appoint politicians a and 02 when he selected A T stewart the great merchant of new york to be secretary of the treasury and adolph E borie as his secretary of the navy every one was surprised the ipp appointments ointments created a good deal of comment and stewart was unable to serve because of a law chic yn re vented all men who were interested h the importation por tation of merchandise from being secretaries of the treasury about a week after the inauguration I 1 went up to call on president grant at the white house and renewed the acquaintance I 1 had made with him during the war I 1 had bad met him when he was in command at cairo when I 1 was an agent at the post office department sent to confer with him about the nit mails I 1 said to him during the talk 1 I see that in the makin making of your cabinet you havo have decided to break reala away from the old rule of appointing all politicians and are taking men from other ranks in life yes it does seem so said president eWt grant well I 1 went on you might be able to do this if you were managing an army but I 1 am sure that you will find before you have gone through your administration that thi the politicians wilt will be the best men to aid you in the management of your administration and that you will ultimately rely upon them that may be replied the President 1 I will swill however first tr try y the other course out but I 1 will be honest about it and if I 1 find fido that I 1 I 1 am not doing the right thing I 1 will make the changers change as soon as I 1 can do so I 1 he did find himself wrong in this respect 1 I conti continued inked judge judat tyner toner and when I 1 met h him i in at paris durm during his trip around the world I 1 re referred ferreT to my conversation and to his change to ta politicians and he told me that he found 01 it a necessity HOW GRANT HIS CABINET how did grant treat his cabinet ministers judge tyner I 1 asked 6 he leir left all matters concerning their own department to them replied judge tyner and he excepted them to decide all ordinary questions for themselves questions of public policy he considered ro for r himself and very important matters relating to the service were always brought to him but as a rule he adopted the recommendations of his cabinet advisers As an instance of his mode of doing business a day or so after I 1 was waa made postmaster general I 1 took up about a score of important appointments and one or two questions involving them the expenditure of money to him I 1 hadr had the briefs concerning these in my hand and I 1 asked him to took ook at them her he said i have you read them M certainly I 1 have I 1 replied have you considered what is best to do about them yes here are my recommendations as to the disposal of them t well that is all I 1 want to know replied general grant 1 I will make the quoin appointments t men ts and sign the papers but ut dont you want to look into the records of the men and see the arguments in the briefs said I 1 no I 1 do not replied general grant what I 1 nave have you for if your judgment is not sufficiently strong to pass upon such things and to ta investigate them in the proper way I 1 will have to look around tor for some mark man who is out of a job to take your place all I 1 want you to do is to look into such matters and decide them for me if you are sure they are right I 1 will do as you say and he thereupon made the appointments and signed the papers HORATIO KING ON CABINET president buchanan treated his cabinet in about the same way that grant did he was however a tickler for cabinet etiquette and lid he was very particular that no outside expenses should ever creep into his department budgets he got very angry at howell cobb his secretary of the treasury one day aay for charging up a junket on one of af the steamers 9 of ta the potomac to to the department and he was via very particular that a t uncle gam sam should oakford pay for nothing outside the government expenses horatio kin king zu nans postmaster general still liv lives 1 at t bashir pe must be now ball well along ablong in n his seventies but he is as spry today a ashe hp was when he began life as a printer in maine with hannibal hamlin as his partner he came to washington more than halt half 4 a century ago as a newspaper correspondent and amos kendall who was then postmaster general gave him an appoint appointment mett in the post office department with a salary i 0 t a thousand dollars in gold this was the lowest salary in 1 n the dep department artmont add he remained fl in it until he went weri out as poA postmaster master general having abing as such c receive received i the q highest ig es salary lary that the department departs t has to 0 offer en horatio ora 0 king ing organized the fore foreign n mail servi service e of the united states tates and d he was for seven years assistant postmaster a s t e r general L he tea me that ex tr president e s i d ef cathi buchana uc haap hana n was very courteous with his cabinet t ministers I 1 na A e rs and he allowed them to run their W aw awn n departments he says that the cab cabinet i n et was far 3 more r dignified in the days of 1859 and 1866 Z than it is now and he does not think that any one but the cabinet ministers should be allowed admission to the councils of the president during m my talk mr king referred to judge joseck joseph clo holt t who was also in buchanann Bucha nans cabinet b i n et and who als also lives blives at washington he has for years beep an invalid ind and he is afflicted with eci eczema eftia to such ain an extent that he has to remain in a dark room and receives no one but most intimate friends his mind however is clear and though he suffers terribly he is mentally strong JOHN TELLS HOW HE HB WAS CHOSEN one of thi the best of president harrisons cabinet ministers is postmaster general wanamaker still he was one of the men whose appointment hung fire till the last and he did not positively know that he would be in the cabinet until after the inauguration I 1 talked with him yesterday about the circumstances of his appointment he was sitting at his desk in the post office department and was sig signing ninga a draft for which was to be a applied toward some of the postal service expenses of the united stages as I 1 entered he showed me the draft as a curiosity when I 1 asked him irn about president harrisons cabinet he replied 1 I re really 1 l Y do not know much about the subject I 1 have never heard how the different cabinet ministers were elected and I 1 only know the circumstances of my y own appointment I 1 had never met tr president harrison until a month after his election I 1 think it was along in february that I 1 got a telegram from him that he would like to see rn me at indianapolis I 1 went and we discussed many things concerning the party and the g government government overn ment the papers had already spoken of me tor a cabinet position out but there was but little talk about about the cabinet during my visit to the dent elect and I 1 left indianapolis without having been offered a pace in the cabinet nor with any definite intimation that he had any intention of making me such an offer upon consideration I 1 am not sure but that we talked over the different cabinet positions and discussed how the government service might be improved in its different branches and it may belbat bet be that bat I 1 w wasa little more I 1 rl iu in my regressions egressions egres as foi tag q improvement of of the t e bails nai fl s ang and of of pur general stal service service the talk a as a whole was was for the good of the government service rather tb anfor any any s special part 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