Show j we weI wei I I re f Frank Fr 0 Carpenter Interviews at i 1 Talks k of of Federated J fp ln f Say the th Colonists I 17 Will Not Nut Break Away From rom Great Grent They Keel Feel NE NEW W PREMIER tho the United States A Word About Re He as lie to Her HI American Criticism 4 1 of Of o Our School Books Points for tel Yankee eo Exporters Move Moie orl Drummers Needed Why New Zealand oaland Is Using U ln American Locomotives A Bid for tor Reciprocity Premier Interview With President Some Something thing About New e ow Zealand b br Arc Aro re Run by r c All About Richard Seddon the Ruler Huler of New l Zealand d and an d Lead Leader I cn d tho Government for tor thu People leople With WI h Free Trains for or School the United States Railways Be He Belong Heer i er cr of thc lie New Labor Movements ill in long to the Government Premier Seddon Thinks They I 1 Should D v j HANK fRANK G v CARPENTER l Wellington Now New lute had an nn Interview with the Hon Rich Richard I ard Seddon the premier of ot New Now Zoo et etI I land The fhe premier In the tho great govern merits of tin our of ot state The Tue premier of oC l Now NOlI Zealand Is la the tho t IU of ot the gov KOV government j title thin he lie Is U the hoad of ot I I everything Think of or u II country countr where I till the railroads the tile telegraPhs telegraph t the thu tele lob U 4 phones the banks the duet chief i life lICo Insurance companies a II score of oilier things me are run l by the tho state Let Iet there thero be large car 1111 and amI I shops filled Oiled with government Let the tho government have hae stock In the thu biggest banks batiks let lot it put hut ltd lt finger Into l tilt tIlO management or of the furnia the fac tac factories 4 tories nud the mines and do n a dozen other oilier such things that no other othur govern government i ment has over ever attempted and ami you have collie Idea Ido of 01 this tills Institution In Now New Zealand q The Tile head hend of ot this government Is le tho lion mchard Seddon lie la Is more Its I i H H H H HH H tb verse verne Wo We have havo the same race and blood IH Is thIcker than water willer 6 What Whitt hiat will vil I this t ii Is union tin Ion be Ie 7 I asked SI It t will I he be u ii 1 union ii n ion upon U broad lines II IllS Kach uch will manage Its 1111 own local affairs affair hut but wo we will nil all work vork tn to as all to matters batterS humanitarian and cial commercial NEW AND ND TUB TIm MOTHER Today the tho of Now calami with Grout brunt Britain arc are to a Illar large extent sentimental ones the till premier went vent on en enVe We Ve have a IL governor r appointed by the tho n hut but his Is RH as n a nodal and connecting link rather tather than of an executive or legislative nature naturu The fhe governor has the power Poter of life lito anil anol death tenth an us to tu criminals condemned to hi capital punishment Ho lie can pardon purdon In such Huch cases cascH as nH he lie chooses He lie has hall also a shy say In lit matters concern ireat and anti thu tIO colonies e but hut In things he lie eon can only tile III objections and refer mutters matters to the premier for or Hettle ottIe ment Tu The New looks upon the governor largely ns as the th guest Ruest of lit the colony We Ve invite him here helO ns nil tho the rob rep I I I I H H I t i c tJ IL J j J V J r Vr J 7 7 7 i 1 I 1 1 T 1 t J I I I I 1 I Jj L C 4 r ii I 1 i II I t 1 I rD V RICHARD SEDDON Premier 0 of Now N Zealand who Ions has n a number 0 of p perk per J 1 t friends In Salt Lake Lk J I t r preSIdent rc than Is 19 the President I dent of or the United Status lie He U Is tin the lead leader I nd I er Cr of or the house hOUR and he lie almost controls 1 parliament He lie can con to u a certain extent iii make his hili own lawn las and he III Is III pushing ti forward new nel ow schemes m of 0 nil 11 kinds with without I out mt regard r to precedent or history It l Is hi lII he lie who for tor years has hall been at nl the tho head of ot the tho socialistic movements In 11 New N Ho lie la is the thu man behind the new lIew which relate to labor find and capital and nt lit the tho hoad head of the party I Which Is now nl rutting cutting up UI the large un Ul unproductive t productive land holdings of the tho ilch und and dividing them nt at the lowest possible rates of ownership requirement union the tho poor A I JIJoN OF OP mm SIW DON DDN DONNess New Ness Ne Zealand prides Itself It elf on being the tho country and T Heddon prides les himself on being Us its rep rel representative lIe He Is n a man of at the people r Ho Ito was waR born bom In 1 the tho son lOn of a II ar r Lancashire farmer He lie learned the tho trade of ot nn an engineer and lint when as nR a 0 aboy I boy about t years ago ho came to Australia he worked In III the this railroad shops Lator on he lie went to tl too o the gold gohil nt at and thieve there lug dug dugIn lugIn In iii the tIll mutes mines with his hili own hands 11 Ills His friends sometimes call him tutu Dick Ick though h all itil traces of tho the rough mss of ot hi hit hh mining life have long beg since t BetI away Mr SIr Ir Seddon worked In Inthe Inthe InI I the Australian II mines for tor three years U I and 11 then come came to Now New to try tr I his IliA luck on 00 the tile gold Kohl of the west vest westi I i coast It OJ ns there he lie first engaged In polities politics He lie was Willi uH elected mayor of ot hIs bin j I town and mot more than twenty years ngu ogo sent to the Now New Zealand parliament He no has hal been 1511 b 11 In parliament from rein then 1 until now HP lIE Is IB the hither father of ot the tho I I ns as well us LIS Its Ita It I leader lender It wn In the tho th parliament house hou that thuit I Imet Imet met Premier Seddon I had letters of ot introduction Washington huh came there thre to present them bison I found foun the thc premier In his hili hI He lie Menu seit cd ed nt nl the till end enol of ot a n lung table PupIl piled with papers documents I wn wan UN present eti H tl to him by IJ his hiM private secretary and andI f I Jie IO made me ma nt ot home My II description of him him will b he be bettered liy by 11 the photograph which lie hE K gave RI VP nu inc during my nil stay It the pro pre premier mier In his hili uniform es 1111 s on ont nie of ut the high highest h h hIst est ost of ot the Masonic order of ot New NOI Zealand eland and It la is n a striking fI of Mm him no os ho hue Is III today tOllay Mr fr Sodden Seddon l I is on onor one of or the biggest eo t of the till public of our time He I fr Is tall huh and Well veil formed lie He ha hus a 11 bIg biff hl frame n it big bighead head and n ii strong neo neck He lie statute stands firm upon ulon hl Ills hili f feet COul oi and his II I 1 as u as lIS our own on f IIII I hey ley 11 Ho lie tune Imst n It fair full complexion light lightbrown brown hair and hearth beard and eyo yr I wu enu lean blue Ills His features are a sort rt of If n a cross emils tho those of ot Jame A Oar field and Benjamin Harrison strongly toward He lIt hiss liss more of ot than harrison In hi his till ip 11 The blood hloI In hue hla veins Is 15 warm his hili nerves nrc nr alive with pr personal m l II His III big head teems teenus with Ideas and his hili tongue hi hiss ball haU bearings In III thur expression of ot if them Item The Tho subject of ot the lie federation of ot t New zw Zealand anti and Its Inland and antI of ot the Aus Ans Australian colonIeS colon 1111 atlle up till sad nd I Mr Ir Seddon he lie though that such lIuch would not eventually dissolve the empire He lIe replIed I think nut not I believe that the empire will prow grow I look In fact fur for union rather than dissolution I that we will vIIi even oen eventually have IUle a n federation of All MI this the Ing I n pe pW The time will como come when Ort it and her col coh colonies cohodes odes onies amid the merlC and their col colonies cities onies will Ihl tx bl united omitted In almost every eel movement m em nt Our Interests me any the salute ame We I have ha the same 1111 language nail and the lie theme lieme Bome me Ideas as zis to God man imm and the thu uni T 1 of ot the tho and tutu ns nil such Huch pay IHlY him him n a salary Is now no about a 1 year oar I am nm In favor of It to J nn noi at nt It ItIs itin Is in not largo hargo enough to more moru tItan than pay the lie III in the way of ot social Our Dur last three have hae r und gone genie hack bark homo complaining I mimi g that t hit t their I Incomes I were too small email II ilia II for tor the position It will probably bo In Increased Now Nol Zealand Zea showed shoed ShO Its love hove for tho the mother country In tho hue Boor war said saidI I I Yes es replied thin the premier We Ve 0 sent them men money and supplies Some of or our nur best Iest boys boy crossed the ocean to tolI light fight lI ht tho tim Boers my toy son among the till taint num ber We Ve also offered to send lIend troops to China limo anti and we Ve e ore art always ready to light for tor old England whenever she hie needs heels us 1111 Every one tine hero talks about England nu nil home haute This Is III so not only of tf those who hio are born there but of their sons nans and grandsons born In New 1 NEW Nl W ZEALAND ZI AND TIm THE UNITED STATES S How Itow do 10 tb New Now feel toward us your excellency I naked asked The rhe New are aro very ory friendly to the tho Sometimes I think we wo are more moore friendly to you than you arc MO to us I 1 have been heln In Itt the tho thi United States several times titmice anti and I find hod considerable sentiment there ther This rule Is natural because of ot your large Immigration from other oilier parts of ot Europe some somo of ot which Is Inimical to the English You are however an on Eng English En lish and amid the tue ele ehe tl among you ell will always allas be b for Cor England W 1 i t dont Ilont like hIke continued Pre Pro Premier mier Seldon Is that some tit itt your school hooks bouks cem to encourage a IL ha ho hall hottell ll 1101 ed of ot of England You ou lly Ily II of ot us In lii your school histories and rather encourage your our children In a 1 belligerent feeling I 1 know that thiat till Eng England In land html treated you badly alII In your colonial da anti I dont wonder that bitt you ou broke away from her Had bind I been an 1111 I Ihn American colonist I should probably have hn been one ono of the lie If hel hut butt Eng Bug England land has Ions hong since Mince acknowledged that lint her actions In respect rusl it to you ott were eru a n mistake Pho ihme has hUR repented M WI It II were ere In Iii sackcloth and nUll n hes and auth I 1 think the hue matter should be Je dealt with in lu sonic thing of nn an explanatory o way In lii th the school books hooks You should ROW lOW the thus seeds of brotherhood In ti the hue souls liUIS of ot your rather than huh these of enmity At It IH is our people young nUll and old look upon tho thio Yankees an brothers I think I we e are more inure friendly than the thelL IllO lL gland Our children know your our patriotic wags songs upon holidays there therl are mon man lIngs oils dis displayed played We Ve e n Li deep deel Interest Inter st In ho your our war wor with Spain we WO e rejoice over ocr your our victories I venture almost as us much ns its your own did tIld AVe 1 were also alo a n little hurt at It your nur friendship with the hue but wo tc H attribute the nc nl Ion of or your our government largely to the necessities of polities politic rather titan to tonny III ill feeling towards England A UNION tT IO OK OF TRADE INTERESTS IT IU A s nn an evidence nee of ot the he friendship hlll of ot New toward the United States State take the tho he matter of ot trade between the thou two countries the lie continued we HI are buying more anti nd more inure of your our goods every oer year We sV li have haP doubled our within the lie Ia last t throe thures years IIII Ir American now I amount to 0 three of n a million annually I 1 think they thc will oon sosti be 11 per Iler annum and thAt there then U Is n R po possibilIty of n U considerable oon In increase crease croo e over that Our government hero here Is 19 buying rail railroad railroad road engines car curs and rails of ot firms I lately laIc give gave an order for 1000 eon carl and a n number of American en cn gines tInes I gave England tho the first chance chanco at itt the order but I found I 1 could not no have It Il tilled d as ns illicitly as ilK In itt America and therefore wont went to you Qu Iu Your peo people leo are nrc more adapted adopted to conditions and you OU will change matters to suit sull the trade I fount found the English full tull 01 ol work The rite managers told mo nue they haul had orders to keep them busy u y lot far three years I asked them why thoy hwy did not put up new works fill take talle new orders elders saying It ii would pay Ila them to In Increase Increase increase crease their plant They shrugged their shoulders and said they thoy he did nut not care to 10 o do I HO 0 I urged tho thu matter mutter say nay saying ing IllS I could not nol wait three yearn fur toi t my lilY In engines engine and that the this English h en Ill engines glues gines might bo IJ better hotter tItan than th ho Amort cult cnn ones It would it li t y ua us better bolter to take nice their engines oven even en though they lasted wily only half as nil long The rhe reply was woo that thy they tile could do nothing rite Tho result re WOH nn I sent the lie order to the tue Baldwins who told toki me moo I could have h what I 1 wanted In three months the thai result was us that I gave gae the Job joll This IH one olle of the hue great mistakes that the thu English manu manufacturers are ale making TIle They do tb not nollIa mid rea iua realize lize that hunt they the thie cant afford to allow their to 0 go 0 elsewhere to trade They Thoy do not seem scout to know that If they thoy lose IORI them once they may amy never como comae back They Tho net hot the lie same caine In nil all branches of or manufacture anti It IH is to my lilY mind a It avery avery very matter In tho the future futuro of Industrial condition MORE YANKEE DRUMMERS NEEDED Tell mo me Mr Seddon said I how hov hO wo U 0 CUll can Cut Increase our trade with New 7 I think you ou otI doing very ery well as ns It Il ItIs IlIs Itis Is said sahl the premier But fluit you rut can camu do better It If you will send out more com coin commercial mercial travelers to study this anti Introduce goods We WI prefer to buy hll If Ir wo We 0 can calm of ot our home factories but wo we are aro always ready for cor a n good thing and nOlI a n new thing and you ou have haye many such Ruch Your people have no Idea Ilea of ot the tho lie value lIlue of the Australasian market You look lock upon our population at as small It Is small entaIl In comparison with some aume of the thu Asiatic countries and you ou waste IRlo your our time In iii talking about China and South America You ou do tie not riot seem to realize that this Is one nf or the Ihl chief spending populations of the flue globe Alobe Our people dreaR well and they thc lie will have ha e Our laboring classes live lIe as aswell n well voil If not better botter than luau those of ot any nil all other oilier country We Vo annually Import on the that average about GO 60 worth of goods tier Per head or om 1300 wot th per liP I family We loVe W buy hll moro more than hamu worth of ot goods per year from outsiders anih we buy huy just the ito things you ou sell No Nil I dont think you work the lie trade half halt as nl well as liS you ou might NEW ZEALAND WANTS RECIPROCITY CITY I I 1 then I think you OU might grant us UM some Semite SO III 0 favors In the way WU wit of ot trade Pro Ive mier Seddon went vent on New Neuv Zealand und the lie United States Stas could COUil make reel reci reciprocity treaties which would be bo to |