| Show IN CF HARRIMAN HARRMAN ROADS M C Markham Says U P and andS S P Were Competitors Prior To Their Consolidation U P NOT LINK BUT COAST LNE LINE J C Says That Tlc Orl Oe ilc inlet HOlte Route Chicago Jan 9 DM r C of t the Missouri racine was th the first wItness cal called cd before lle time interstate whom when time the Inv of time thc harriman lutes was resumed Mr Mm Markham was b by C A Severance of St Paul acting fol for the The WIS as asked ked I if the thO Union il South rn Pacific were uvero prior to their competItors for tor business s 10 lie aRid the they were going to the Missouri PaciFic Mr was with time the Illinois Central antI ho he said that bot bott roads were extensive competitors for or PaciFic coaSt business originating the ln line ot of the Illinois CentrAl Was as an any lessening of tian after time thc consolIdatIon ater I It was generally understood tha luat time the was Ie lesk Mr Markham declared that II in hI his opinion the Iho Union was not I ft link In transcontinental na as b by the thc attorneys of Mr r Harriman but a as long al as the Portland gateway Is open It l is 1 a Pa a cHic coast lne lIne II Iii itself Iselt The said that before the tho consolidation thu Union and Southern Pacific Inos lines woes wen for br the California fruit trade ado onil for passenger business d II C h by Mr Milburn wio po tonic tt to the statement nt made bY the witness that ho considered the tho Union an independent h PaciFic line no noa lie asIc I od cd the wItness If the acting as s 11 an Independent In line could not sl gIve t to the Union PacIFic t I large larg 11 at 01 Imal small Ogden amount or of eastbound I dont know whether L 1 cull 01 or not Theme helO ore are Influences at wor vorI which Would prevent I it But tho PaciFic 81 as an In independent dependent 1 line might do this J it might and destroy itself Mr Miburn then asked If the tho Union i via vi Portland to San Ben Fran Francisco c cisco cown was to bl be compared to a dIrect lne line west ot of Ogden The winess witness replied Time rate rato settled those things and rater cam tn bo made o n low via ta tD O oUter er rou e eMI MI thil while ct inic Ing lS ts assistant tr manager of the tho Illinois C Central It was understood that traffic originating of a Iho limo drawn front fron Cairo Coiro to the vicinity of Cleveland was to go via In Ogden Oden traffic originating east a t of that Ino lIne WIS was to togo togo go ti 10 Now cw Orleans Mr Ir Milburn brought out the state lale mont that In al all coast traffic originatIng on n the Central that Ino line mind tho ho Southern Pacific must bo be factors actors his object being heing to sho show that however the tho went the Southern was ae certain to be 11 jin element clemen t tand and cou could riot not be In 11 all eases as a competitor of the tho Union PaciFic Commissioner Lane asked the tho witness I it ho hn considered ni all transcontinental lines os as comp competitors to the extent that the he Canadian Pacific Is a competitor ot 01 lle the Souther Southern Pacific The fhe witness re cc plIed In tile the Clements asked when the tho Union Pacific and PacIfic were for tor IllInois the rates wore identical b by both hines The published rates were time the same Rame ho rePlied In answer to questions ly Commis Iloner stoner the witness said that the only difference to the illInois Central muncie by the of the tho two roads WIS was that lust of oC the thc freight that the IllInois Central was to ship via Omaha which would ld have been taken b by New ew Orleans Orlean making a lOls loss to It of f I a mie tulle haul ad and a corresponding man loss in ft r revenue J C flip fhe next witness was wan J 3 e 1 director of time the Union and South el emIt systems Answering man Mr salI said that the rates from toni to the Atlantic thence tIa Ia tho Morgan 1181 hues antI S Pacific to memo time tho Hare canto lS an those tIt II the tho al rai route roule but lie he believes ve vera little freight or ever oel went sent that wa way Asked whether hie Chicago coull coUld not muot route ht either via 11 Nt Now or Olden Ogden wit netS that the thu Ile on which the thu traffic dictated the Iho route Mr paid maid there thAro I strong competition In Chicago for tor Pacific hulnes business II lIe It Mr tr Nhu meyer the arent agent was tt I com coin pr this business no lIe is IH isIs Is ho he n a al an Ih time UnIon and Bon them Al Am luch much pa ever ho he sties That Is lie he WIS never nover a 0 lar Mr Ir has always been hoon In to tn ship lp train territory via 1 Ogden It ho worked for tor nn mitt other I road lie ho violated hiI his Mr 11 aSked man luau regarding time or r time tho II UI amid HOlther to sl simon lint time tho ro l store 1110 to 1901 but Iro mere toL 01 pel hl Mr wen store not flat always lat sat to time tho attorneY I said 11 Mr what Ire tl Is but bul I 11 you 01 the RB as 1 them |
