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Show Debate on Socialism Between E. D. McDougall and L. A. Hollenbeck some one leave you a big bunch while you are at it the bigger the bunch, the bigger your success. : "Won't anybody leave you a big bunch of money-. Well, then, there is still one other way, but it is the only other way. Steal it. That is the way many business men do big business men, men who know how. Stolen money makes as good capital as borrowed bor-rowed money. : Can't you either .tforrow, inherit, or steal a control of capital? Well, then, you're up against it are you not you farmers? ; Some one has suggested to us that we save our pennies and thus get rich. Have you farmers tried it? Have you not found a hundred places for every penny in the improvement of your farms and in the payment for the necessities of life? Rockefeller Rocke-feller said: ."Save your pennies." But pennies were not made to save; they were made to spend. And Rockefeller didn't get rich that way, either. I know how he got rich, and so do you. He controlled capital; he monopolized; monopo-lized; he stole. If somebody can tell us how to succeed in any other way in the business busi-ness world than by getting a control of capital, let "us hear what is is. Let us hear how we may get rich quicker than by building a factory on borrowed, bor-rowed, inherited or stolen capital and then hogging all the profits of factory production; how we may get rich quicker than by monopolizing the market; how we may get rich quicker than by manipulating corporate stock from the inside. Let us hear! But let us not confuse the issue. The success of which we speak is business success, but we are talking of the business world. Let us see, now, how our boys may best succeed, in a big way, in business. E. D. McDOUGALL. With this issue of the Duchesne Record there begins a debate on Socialism So-cialism between E. D. McDougall of Salt Lake City, city attorney of .Murray, .Mur-ray, who spoke at the Socialist encampment en-campment on Lakefork on the 4th, and Attorney L. A. Hollenbeck of Duchesne. Du-chesne. -The series of articles which the Record has agreed to print will run through several months. Mr. McDougall leads off with an excerpt of his speech on the 4th, as follows: No people on earth stand so firmly for education as do the Socialists. We demand compulsory education for children, not only to the age of fourteen, four-teen, but to the age of sixteen and eighteen. No young girl under the age of eighteen should he pushed out of school into a cold, cruel, vicious world of business. Factory life is the most demoralizing life possible for a young girl." If parents are too j poor to support their children ' in school, then the state should provide I for their support during school age. The hoys and girls of the common people are the very ones who most need, public school education. And they should not be penalized by reason rea-son of being born into the wrong families. fam-ilies. They should have an equal opportunity op-portunity with the children of the rich to become good citizens. But Socialists believe strongly in education on the broad principle announced an-nounced by Christ: "Ye shall know the trtuh, and the truth shall make you free." Socialists care little for vote-getting; they care chiefly that the people be enlightened in every way possible for the light to shine. Never-the-less, Socialists realize something of the defects of our modern mod-ern school system. At commencement commence-ment time, when teachers send their young men graduates out into a life of business competition, they serenely serene-ly tell them: "Be honest, be industrious, indus-trious, be truthful, and success will be yours." But why should not teachers, teach-ers, the guides and counsellors of our youth, in telling the boys to be truthful truth-ful and honest, be truthful and honest hon-est themselves? Why do they not tell our boys: "Be honest, be industrious, indus-trious, be truthful, but remember that counts but little for success. You go out into a world of fiercest competition competi-tion as lambs among wolves. Keep your eyes open." As a matter of common knowledge it is the custom for our teachers to send the boys out into the world as "educated fools." With high ideals of morality they attempt to compete with knaves and thieves, with the result re-sult that they are soon down and out. It stands to reason that the unscrup-lous unscrup-lous will vanquish the conscientious in business competition. The man of principle will go down in defeat before be-fore the unprincipled trickster. Why not -be honest with our boys and instruct in-struct them in the devious ways of business so long as business ways are devious? For lack of such instruction instruc-tion our college graduates, however honest, industrious, and truthful they may be, soon become discouraged and either blow out their brains or accept their fate as wage-slaves; and the more honest, Industrious and truthful they are the sooner they find themselves down and out. I do not say that Industry is not a virtue to be prized. Industry In a slave is always al-ways prized, but in the world of business busi-ness the man who sits with his heels on his desk is the man who succeeds if he has the true key to success. And what is the true key to success? suc-cess? It is not honesty, industry or veracity. It is the control of capital. cap-ital. Control capital and you can command success. They'll bring it to you on a golden platter. You don't need brains. You can buy brains as you would buy beefsteak. But how, it may be asked, shall one get a control of capital? There are three ways, and only three. If you can sign your name, just go to the bank and borrow the money your business or your farm requires. If you have influential friends the trick is done. The bank won't loan you the money? Well, then, Inherit it. Have |