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Show up, and they do not want these young; men to remain under a cloud. They say simply: 'Let our sons be as other men's sons. If they are worthy of place and position, let them , have exactly the same chance that others have, neither more nor Jess.' "But I'm talkiug so much," paid the .judge, suddenly, "that people will be liable to gather the impression that we are quarreling quar-reling and having a dreadful time over there by the great Salt Lake, whereas we are not doing anything of the sort. You might live there a Ions time and never hear anything of those questions. This mormon conundrum conun-drum is settling itself just as it ought to be settled, and the politicians who are try ins: to keep ujj dissensions are atabad business." II. C. LETT ON STATEHOOD. He Tells a Renver Reporter That Ftah is Ready for That Dignity. H. C. Lett is in Denver and has been discussing dis-cussing Utah politics. In an interview in i'i the Denver Xmt the other day he sized up the situation as follows: "There has not been a polygamous marriage mar-riage in Utah since the issuance of the proclamation," pro-clamation," said Judge H. C, Lett of Salt Lake City yesterday. "I am quite satisfied of that fact and so is everybody else, for that matter, though there is a little knot of politicians, the remains of the liberal party, which argues to the contrary for purposes or its own." "Who, tlu n, is responsible for the statements state-ments which arc made from time to time that polygamy continues to be prac ticed aoicl that the church leaders are working a fraud?" was asked. The judire. smiled for a moment before replying. '-Well," said he, softly, "do you know I think the TribHc, Judge Goodwin's Good-win's paper, is the main source of those stories. The fact is that the republican managers and the Trilmnr mad a great mistake when the mormons announced that nolviramv would be discontinued. If they had accepted the declaration as being made in good faith and the paper had covered its lirst page w ith roosters it is very doubtful IT the democrats would have a majority in I tah today. So the democrats have no fault io li ud w ith the course of the Tribune, and c jokingly tell (ioodw in that it is the most powerful ally we have. It is driving votes . us every day. At the la.-t territorial election elec-tion the so-called liberal party or its skeleton carried but nine out of thirty-six districts. Ftah is overwl ebningly democratic. demo-cratic. The enemy ha- not any t bailee except ex-cept iu a ft w of the districts in Salt Lake-City. Lake-City. -This is ail tie- more honorable," continued contin-ued the judge, "because si eral of the lead ilig pillars of the church are members of the republican parly. The fact of ii is that the Mormon church has split up between the two big parties, just, the -ame a- any other church. The republicans see that the ma- I jority of tne people are opposed to them and are raising this cry i-hoiit polygamy continuing to exist and about tin- deep laid plans of the- priesthood to smuggle a Mormon Mor-mon state into the I nio-i. They are doing so simply to excite prejudice against Ftah and keep it out of the union. They talk of waiting until the immigration lias been heavy enough to make the, gentile vote exceed ex-ceed that of the Mormons. At the last election, elec-tion, fought .bt uiion tho-e lines, the latter had a majority of 10,(hui. liut it is the opinion f all who honestly ami earne-iiy wish for the prosperity of Utah, apart from any thought of political learning, that there will not ami should not be another election wherein the cry will be .Mormon vs. (ientile. The gentile ote has finally divided and both the republican and democratic organizations ! have been oflieially recognized by the mi- j 1 ional central committees of those parties. I o those w ho .-till cling to the remain- of i the liberal party expect Ilia' all the iinmi- giants will adopt their views? How long' will it take them to get a majority twenty years? Is I tali to remain a territory luring all that time V They should comeout of the past and get into the present w ithout ith-out delay. We have population enough now to entitle lis to two congressmen. I think. "The opponents of state hood,'', said the judge, warming up to his theme, "seem to forget a great many things. B. fore L tah becomes a state an enabling act has to be passed, and the constitution under which it will work will have to be drawn up and adopted by popular vote. That constitution would furnish ample safeguard against the bugbear of the alarmists, a 'mormon state.' It would distinctly specify all those, things necessary to prevent any possibility of any I church establishing itself as autocrat of the j commonwealth. The mormon church could not accomplish any such purpose if it wished to do so, and 1 distinctly affirm that it has no melt intention." Judge Lett was a-ketl how he came to feel himself to be in a position to speak positively. "I can sit ak positively," lie replied, "be- ap-e I happen to be in a position to have accurate information. To make my meaning mean-ing plain 1 must go back a little. A few yearsago. when the later activity began to manifest itself in Salt Lake, several of us, who saw the future which promised if old troubles could Vie removed, went to the head men of the mormon church. We told them that we were rcntiles to the backbone, back-bone, and as such were opposed to any church Presbyterian, Methodist, Mormon or any other interfering in politics. We pointed out that so long as the mormon church held to the management of the affairs of Ftah, so long would it be impos-. impos-. siblc to attract eastern men or eastern i money. We simply put the problem of the country before tlicnt as practical busj. ness questions. They looked at it in the same light, and from that time the church began to become a church only, instead of attempting to regulate bodies and souls alike. "Since that time," said he, '"we have been engaged in many enterprises with Morruous and we find them to be honorable men. Their word is good in oilu-r matters, why should it not be good in regard to polygamy? polyg-amy? They invite the closest scrutiny and say: 'If we are guilty, arrest us; there is a United States marshal on every corner.' cor-ner.' There are no brighter or abler men than many of these Mormons. They are perfectly able to read the signs of the times, and they see t'rtit the old practices of their church must be swept away forever. The older men do not ask political preferment for themselves, but their sous arc growing |