Show THE DISCllSSiON BEGUN The House Takes Up the Mort sraue Tax Proposition I I A NEW ELECTION BILL ADAMS WANTS TO CATCH Till TRANSIENT SHEEP HERDS A New Bill to Amend the Fish and Game IiatvR A Bill for the UncoiL I litional Rei > eul of the MetUca lnTv Ao More Bills by Request In the legislature yesterday the proceedings pro-ceedings were not of especial interest although considerable business of importance im-portance ivas transacted In the Council Hart introduced a bill defining the qualifications of electors elec-tors and regulating the elective franchise fran-chise also a bill providing for the lease of school lands Adams introduced a bill providing for the assessing and collecting of taxes on transient herds Booth of Provo introduced measure providing for uniting the university and Agricultural Agri-cultural college the main features of which are substantially the same a the bill introduced in the House by Nebeker for the same purpose The bill prohibiting practicing attorneys from becoming sureties was after along a-long discussion passed by a vote of 7 to 3 I the House Powers by request presented pre-sented a new fish and game law and Johnson added another to the great number of medical bills that have been presented this session The committee on memorials made a favorable report OD the memorials for the opening up of the Indian reservations and for the survey of our coal lands The discussion was begun on the bill for the taxation of mortgages and Varian for and Hubbard against occupied oc-cupied the floor The discussion will b continued today The proceedings were a follows The Council Hague was the only absentee when th Council met yesterday FROM THE HOUSE A communication was received announcing an-nouncing that H B 24 andH B 64 had passed the House FIRST READING C B 59 authorizing the registration regstrton Of and defining the qualifications of electors and regulating the elective franchise was introduced by Hart SCHOOL LANDS C B 60 to amend chap 76 of the laws of Utah 1S92 providing for the lease of school lands and making regulations gov ring the same was introduced by Hart TAX ON TRANSIENT STOCK C B 61 a bill providing for assessing assess-ing and collecting taxes on transient stock was introduced by Adams UNIVERSITY COLLEGE AND AGRICULTURAL C B 62 respecting the uniting of the < University and Agricultural College was introduced by Booth of Provo I k is substantially the same a the bill introduced in the House by Nebeker and which has been published in full in The Herald H B 64 by power relating to the practice of attorneys before courts and the qualifications of judges and justices jus-tices and H B 24 by Allen to provide pro-vide for the establishment of free employment time em-ployment offices were read the first timeTHE THE HATE OF INTEREST Eldredge moved to reconsider the vote on the report of the committee on C B 37 relating to the limiting of the legal rate of interest Adams seconded the motion Seaman asked the reason for the reconsideration Eldredge replied re-plied that an opportunity might be given those who wished to further discuss dis-cuss the matter Taylor moved that he bill be filed until a motion be made to bring i up again today and it was finally tabled until SECOND READING Booths bill in regard to the union of the University and Agricultural College Col-lege was read the second time and referred re-ferred to the committee on the University Uni-versity and College Adam3 bill C B 61 was referred to the committee on ways and means C B 60 by Hart was referred to the committee on education C B 57 by Hart was referred to the committee on elections H B 64 by Powers was referred to the committee on judiciary H B 24 by Allen was referred to the committee on judiciary C B 49 by Eldredge to amend chap IS session laws of Utah giving mayors of cities of the first and second class a qualified veto power was reterred to the committee on municipal corporations THIRD READING The committee on judiciary reported H B 1 as a substitute for C B 23 prohibiting attorneysatlaw from becoming be-coming sureties in any civil or criminal crimi-nal action suit or proceeding Eldredge moved to amend by inserting insert-ing the words or any other citizen L after the word law Seaman seconded sec-onded the motion Eldredge stated that he saw no reason for class legislation legis-lation at least in this case Laughter from the Democratic side Taylor said the object of the bill was to prevent unscrupulous attorneys from becoming sureties Williams said that it is not professional profes-sional etiquette for an attorney to become be-come a surety but i is sometimes done The object of the bill is to correct an abuse which does exist A reputable lawyer may send his client to a third party for a bond The ordinary business busi-ness man understands this and acts accordingly He was in favor of the billSeaman considered the bill a blow at liberty The bentlemen who had spoken were sneaking for themselves but there a e attorneys outside the city who nlght not have the class of clients referred to He did not believe in throwing such protection about lawyers any more than bankers or any other class He contended that the better Judgment of lawyers should protect them a i does Business men in similar cases In the second place the Bar association can protect its members from impositions He Us impoitons s opposed op-posed to class legislation in any case If the bill were made to read disreputable dis-reputable attorneys or unscrupulous unscrupul-ous attorneys instead of practicing attorneys he would support the bill Booth of Salt Lake said it was to protect clients a much as lawyers that the bill was proposed and cited instances in which such protection would be needed Hart said it would relieve the attorneys at-torneys of embarrassment when asked C by clients to become sureties I would relieve him too of the necessity which sometimes arises of challenging the financial standing of a brotirer lawyer But he felt that the bill is a blow at the liberty of the people hence he did not favor it The first amendment was lost and Booth proposed an amendment providing pro-viding that the bill would be operative only in the district in which the attorney at-torney resides Carried Eiaredge moved to strike out the en < i 1 > I 4 ic acting clause but the motion was lost and the Vote on the final passage of the bill stood Ayes Williams Lund Breeden Adams Booth of Provo Booth of Salt LaKe Taylor 7 nays Eldredge Hart Seaman and Seely 4 At 320 the Council adjourned House I The House was called t5 order at 2 p m by Speaker Emery with twenty members present I Prayer by cliaplain THE SCHOOL LAW Allen presented th petition of the board of education of Provo which t Prno asks that the school law may be so amended that the maximum rate o f taxation may be increased in cities of the second class so that bpnds will not I need to be issued and so cities of the second class may make needed improvements im-provements without going into debt and that the law may be amended also so that the board of education of said cities may borrow all necessary moneys Committee on education Clark presensted the claim of John W Coons sheriff of Sevier county for 514160 for going toDenver to recover a car of cattle supposed to have been stolen from Piute and Sevier counties Referred Warner presented the claim of James H Lewis for 100 witness fees Referred Re-ferred I I SURVEY OF COAL LAXDS The committee on memorials reported back H J an 13 asking for the survey of coal lands recommending that it do pass Received OPENING OF RESERVATIONS The committee also reported back H J I 1 and 12 relating to the opening of the Uintah and Uncompahgre Indian In-dian reservations recommending that the former pass a amended and the latter lie on the table Adopted FISH AND GAME H B SO Powers by request introduced intro-duced a bill to reconstruct the laws in relation to fish and game He stated that certain residents of Utah count wish to be heard on it Referred NO MORE BY REQUEST Wines introduced a resolution that hereafter no bills be introduced by request re-quest saying his desire is to keep out such measures as the medical bills introduced by Johnson and Clark Committee on rules ANOTHER MEDICAL BILL H B 81 Johnson by request introduced Intro-duced a bill to repeal the medical law Referred to the committee on public health Wines wanted the petition of the residents of Washington county in connection with this Granted COUNCIL BILLS C B 8 relating to fees of city jus ices of the peace outside of city business busi-ness 28 relating instruction of juries before argument and relating to the service and form of summons were read and referred to the committee on judiciarySCHOOL SCHOOL BONDS C B 26 to validate all issues of school bonds was referred to the committee com-mittee on education TO REVOKE PLATS The bill to allow county courts to revoke plat of land was taken up and discussed until a call was made for the orders of the day THE MORTGAGE BI LAt L-At 3 p m the House took up Var ians bill for the taxation of mortgages and Sears asked that i be postponed for one week as he wished to get together to-gether statistics Varian did not want to give the tme a he was ready to debate the measure at once Allen was not prepared to grant this extension of time The motion to postpone was lost Varian opened the argument on the bill by saying that there i a great deal of obscurity regarding it particu arly among the newspapers The first sill submitted proposed an entirely new system for the people of Utah The bill before the House proposed to put all solvent debts whether secured or unsecured on the same plane before the law I it were designed to remove any taxes remove them from all debts The bill should be considered from a standpoint of the state not as it relates lates to A or B Revenue laws are necesar They are inexorable Everyman Every-man rich or poor well or ill must pay taxes according to the nronerty he owns There is harshness in these laws for no man has ever conceived a system that would not be harsh In 1892 there was a law on the statute books of our territory which ted all property The lawmakers had recognized a all men have recognized re-cognized that not more than 40 per cent of the wealth of the country is in taxable property Sixty per cent of the wealth is In notes or bonds Th = se thing are property as much a the round yellow gold piece Credits are property and are recognized as such This was recognized by the Legislature Legisla-ture when it passed the revenue law and also in the attachment laws which have been passed Up t 1892 no distinction inction was made between debts secured cured and unsecured He said that in 1892 the Legislature passed a law exempting from taxation mortgages and trust deeds and the debts secured thereby He wanted to know why an exemption had oeen made of a 10000 note secured by mor + gage and not one which was not thus I secured He thought that the syjtem Is wrong The Legislature should deal Legslature with it not from the standpoint of the money lender or of the borrower but from the standpoint of a sovereign bOdy I should look up not down He denied that the taxation of credits is double taxation saying that every court in the United States which has considered the subject with one ex eptlon has held that way All courts have held that credits are property Blackstone and every other writer have spoken in this way He wanted t know whether the Legislature was prepared to continue a system that is wrong a system which taxes the tangible and allows the intangible to go free He thought that would be wrong He thought history would not bear out the opponents of the measure in their assertion that lenders will vita draw from this field in case this bills bill-s passed He thought that the law of supply and demand regulates the money market The money will note not-e taken away and the great burdens of taxation should be placed on l propert real and personal The terri tory is soon to take up additional burdens dens and should see that all property helps to raise the revenue Sears wanted t know if the judici ary committee had used due diligence to find out everything about the question ques-tion Varian wanted it understood that anyone who wanted to come before be-fore the committee could have come HUBBARD REPLIES RPLIES Hubbard took up the discussion He said that unlike the previous speaker he did care who pays the tax I he thought that the bill would entail more burdens on the already overburdened poor he would consider that suffl cent cause t vote against It He read an extract from the report of th teritorial board of equalization in which the entire board puts forth the assertion that the tax on mort gages is a double tax on the borrower who is compelled to pay them He red from the letter of W J Lynch county assessor claiming that the cost of collecting taxes on mortgages amount t more than the amount I realized and that the taxes are paid by the borrower He knew that the bill provided that mortgages should contain no provision making It obliga tory on the borrower to pay the taxes but realized that this provision will prove ineffective as i will simply re suIt in a raising of rates of interest The exemption of foreign capital l un der the law will make it necessary only for our capitalists to have their money loaned from outside the tern tory and will work only hardship on I the small lenders if any hardship is 0 = worked He proposes to vote against the measure The House adjourned at 450 Notes Carnaigre root hasnt been her from lately Allen is preparing to close the debat on mortgages Captain Addleman was in the upper house yesterday Eugene Lewis was a member of the third house yesterday The frequent use of why is a mannerism with Varian The twentyfourth day and still th printing muddle is not settled i I many more medical bills come in the Legislature will be swamped Orson Smith of Logan was among yesterdays visitors to the Council Varlans earsplitting eloquence could be heard in the Council yesterday dayMr Mr Carlisle an exmember of the legislature was seen within the Council bar Though the Council is not rushing any House bills the House is rushing their measures Johnson is not expected to be an enthusiastic advocate of the bill now before the House The adjournment last night left two bills on the fence to come up under unfinished un-finished business After the adjournment most of the councilors heard the House discussion on mortgage tax Johnson did not much relish Var ians allusions to the mortgage bill presented by him Sears and Allen spent a great deal I of time yesterday discussing the meaning mean-ing of the word contiguous I The committee on public health of the House will give the Allopaths a hearing on Tuesday morning According to the committee on memorials me-morials Poor Lo vH not be allowed to rest in peace on his reservation Some enterprising but hardly honest individuals are in the habit of taking things from the desks of members The press representatives in the House are indebted to Sergeantatarms H C Snyder for copies of the statutes The House in its headlong course is rushing through a reference of peti tions and claims without reading titles tles tlesWines Wines wants the introduction of bills by request stopped because of the nonsensical non-sensical measures sent in by Clark and Johnson Hubbard had to fight the mortgage I issue in his district That is why he I was not afraid to tackle the subject yesterday I The Republican file leaders in the I House will not allow an interruption for a question but they always ask for that privilege Since his landlords lien bill has been so warmly received Ivins is in favor of the resolution to have no more bills introduced by request The number of House bills has reached eightyone and memorials have struck the thirteen imark This is closely approaching the maximum for last session Varian does not possess a great deal of tact By his remarks about Mr Sears yesterday he probably did not raise himself in that gentlemans estimation es-timation A beautiful slab of onyx a sample of that to be used in the joint building graces the clerks desk in the House It was brought in by Powers and comes from the Lehi quarries The House is allowing business to accumulate on the table and there are now four or five bills waiting for third reading There will be morning sessions ses-sions in the near future Varians refusal to allow more time for preparation for the discussion yesterday yes-terday was one bf his most discourteous discourte-ous acts during the session And the request came from the Republican side too tooHon Hon Walter R Pike father of the present medical law except where amendments crop up happened within the bar of the House yesterday just before Johnson presented his bill for the repeal of that law The committee ha stricken out from the memorial asking for the opening of the Indian reservations the words the lands are not necessary for the support or comfort of the Indians upon said reservations to any extent They also make the memorial allege that there are 4000000 acres of land tied up for the benefit of less than 2000 red men An amusing incident occurred in the House yesterday during the debate on mortgage taxation Hubbard had reached the climax of his argument and in order to clinch matters said I speak not as a borrower but as a lender Nebeker immediately whirled about and shook hands with him but he hastened to explain thaf it a lapsus inguae and he is a borrower |