Show MR WESTS VIEWS I The Whys and Wherefores of The New Bill ILLEGALITY OF THAT DEL Hr Dlekon ir Ceg CnllonT VleiriInterrdin hAt inCurrent in-Current ruile Hon Joseph Wes something of whose tabors at Washington in behalf of the people of Utah tne public has been made acquainted with through Tan HEEALD WMS encountered in the city by a reporter Friday evening for the first time since his iturn Knowing Know-ing that he would be in possession rnucn mat would be interesting at the present time the reporter asked leave to subject him to the interviewing process pro-cess and the following euauedJ Q Ho w doTyou account for the Had ical chancier of Chairmen Tuckers report when he hj BO oft n stated through the pries tbat tbeJEdmund bill would bd greatly moulded by his committee A ine Edcxunds bill as it came from the Senate has been greatly modi fled and its modiiicMti ii periiaus to some extent due to the able efforts of Messrs lioutwell Chandler Gibson nine l and others By referenco to these getitlemeud argura nts you will observe that nearly every point contended con-tended for by them unless it be the liMHLorporation of tkc Mormon 3burch has been conceded either in whole or in part Therefore far as Tuckers promise of modification is concerned he has kept his word Q But how was it that the committee commit-tee after rejecting themore objectionable objection-able features luf the Kdtuunds bill added other and more radical provisions provi-sions I AI account for it in this way I Jpon every national question of current cur-rent importance people of the country coun-try arc greatly divided M > much so that no matter what policy may be pursued on any of these issues by either patty their political gains in one section sec-tion arc very likely to be offjct by osjca in another As a consequence politicians are vigilantly watching the effect upon tbe American people of every measure in Congress and arc exercising ex-ercising their best wisdom to gain for their respective parties the greatest araonnt of popular favor Every measure meas-ure having for it object the solution of too Mormon problem is bound to secure se-cure for the party advancing it the unbounded approval of tbe American people irrespective of creed or party so bitter unrelentin and widespread wide-spread is the popular prejudice against us As a consequence this question is perhaps the only one before the country today upon which either party can make positive gains with no possible chanced of political losses Politicians are thenfore to I eager > e cure to their respective parties all the political capital to bj made oat of a question offering such unparalleled advantages ad-vantages Edmunds introduced a Republican Re-publican measure in the Senate upon his subject but a Democratic committee commit-tee of the House finding from the arguments madj ampb justification for sinking out or modifying its principal provisions seized upon the opportunity to create upon the slender frame work left another entirely different and I much more string nt measure hopn thereby there-by to secure to themselves too political prestige that othermsa would have gone to their political opponent Each pa ty ioJ anxious to secure credit for any legis lathe measure that will oring about tbe solution 6f tho Mormon problem which they think is on the eve of being solved The Republicans you know have been working at it for over twentyfour years I believe the Democrats are anxious to fix it up during this administration admin-istration and arc sanguine that they will be able to Accomplish it QWh1t do you think of the probability prob-ability of Edmund and tbe Senate taking out some of 1U essential features fea-tures A Edmunds Ind tuoRrpnblican party may feel thai the Democrats havestolen their thunder and they may antagonize antagon-ize it in order to work it over again as a Republican measure QDo you think Edmunds will be inclined to hold out for the measure appointing ap-pointing trustees for the church 7 AI do not know but he will 01 course there were serious legal Abjection Abjec-tion to the appointment of trustees in the manner provided in his bill but the policy that has > been advocated ad-vocated by the Democratic party while it is different in some respects amounts to the same thing For instance in-stance It was provided in the publican pub-lican measure that the thirteen trustees who should manage the affkirs ot the church should be appointed by the President Their duties were to be to wind up the atfkir of the corporation and woat property it had over 550000 was to be distributed among the district schools The Democrats to accomplish the same object advocated a different policy They provided tbat the President Presi-dent should appoint the probate judges and tbat the probate judge should appoint ap-point trustees for each church corporation corpora-tion in a county that the act incorporating incorpo-rating the Mormon church should be repealed and tbat the AttorneyGen era should bring suit and wind up the affairs of the corporation distrbuUng its property according to law and equity QThe new bill reaches the came end then AYes sir exactly only they advocate advo-cate a different way of reaching the same result and their principal object in working it over was in say opinion to give the Democratic party whatever credit might result front the measure QAs the probate judges were to be ppointed oy the President they would probably appoint outsiders to man ago tbe affairs of the church AThat would be the case in the absence ab-sence of any power requiring that appointment to be made from the body of the church If it had been designed by the framers of tbe Tucker bill that the Church trustees trus-tees should be appointed from tho Mormon Mor-mon Church ttio bill would have so provided as it is tbty could appoint tbe bitterest enemies the Mormons have QYou think there is no doubt that if tub bill comes up it will go through 7 AIf the bill conies before the House it will undoubtedly be favorably acted upon because the members dare not vote against it in view of the present pres-ent sentiment of tha country QWhat do ypn know about this Territorial indeb ednesj How much is it 7 AIt amounts to nearly 300 O > The only authority in law for making these charces asainst tbe Territory is found in Section 2 of the Poland bill which reads as follows And th coits and expenses of all prosecutions for offenses of-fenses against any law of the ferrftorv shall be paid out of the Tutorial l treasury Mid in 8clionlK3 Of the Revised Statutes whhh M j tbat Ter ntorul prisoners may be routined in the penitentiary at the cot oC tbe Territory Ter-ritory on such terms and conditions as may be prescribed Section 1891 of the Rvi a Statutes provides that tbe cost of keeping the penitentiary Phall 1e charged to the United States government govern-ment tnerefore the account in its present form it illegal and tne charge of the entire cost of ruuinta nlsjg the penitentiary against the Territory en tiMy unauthorized QnUV they charred np this amount wit out givinK The Territory credit for the United States prisoners kept there AYe they hiV cbargamJthentira expanse of toe nurriturv to the Tfr nt ry whereas the only 1ga warif keepnjrtntf utxxit ir w nl i tei r nar e the general government wita time enire c J > lt and the lerrttnrv nerely with the cost of it prie cry QI nod rjtoud you tievutod sometime some-time looting through the department and ascertainia what pny thu District Attorney hud been rei etving Can you tell me an > thing 01 that AThe DismrictAtturnpvha been a owed a maxituuui of o900 per year and hiss assistants all they could make out of the Territorial bintnen which ome year has amuiouuNil to brtweei f > 000 and < 000 more Ta Polnnl IMe I makes ie the duty of the District A turner tur-ner to attend to Unitd Stacs and For ntonal busi ass and provides that for all services rendered ho shall not l y ecr and aary together receive mo tbaii 3500 per ear and all fee and moneys received by h m abovd nch amount shall bu paid into the treasury of the United SUte I QMr Uickson then hat ben running run-ning some 2500 a year over his ILait 7 Alt would seem so I I QHow didJMr Cullom regard the I action of Comptroller Durham i rescinding re-scinding his order relative to legislative legisla-tive pay tI1 Jdled I AL called upon him after the order tad been made and the pay forwarded and ha manifested insidcrablu sur nn e tbat the Comptroller had reversed his former ruling He said ho certainly had no Authority to make payment of beatAount and he could not account for it I told him 1 had been the Comp roller and laid before him tho other side of the question that the former for-mer decision had been mate on ex parte representations and that upon bearing the other sido of the jutsUon he had become firmly convinced that be could not legally withhold the Legis ativc compensation under the law QWbat i your opinion in recard to tbo proposed amendment prohibit ng polygamy Al think the ultimate object is to bring Utah into the Union as 1 State but the Democrats 1mocts cinnot accomplish acwplh It unl1 theru is a change in the punIc sentiment toward the people of UtaQ ihey hope however by the adoption of the coiiitit tionjl amendment and the passage of the EdmuniisTucker law which will vutuolly place Utjh under Democratic tutelage for the ul timato admission of Utah a a Democratic Demo-cratic State cratc Qr What are the prospects for an extra cession of the Legislature AA few days before 1 left Wash ngton Mr Hill the chairman of the committee 0 Territories in the House reported a bill in conformity wan the suggestions of the President providing Cr an extra session of the Legislature and asked unanimous consent to have it immediately considered stating that be had ben rcqutsed t do so by bh committee Tue Speaker said thj re queit could not be enteitaiued at that time whereupon Mr Hill stated that he would renew the request at some future fu-ture time It was expected that within a few days at least the request would be renewed Up to the present however how-ever the chainuan has made no lur ther mention of it QWbat do you think will be the temper of tho House regaroiag the favorable disposition of the bill AI believe that it will meet with so opposition when it is brought up fur consideration especially stca too Tucker bill has every thing in it that can b desired on the part of LUC enemies of Utah QWhat effect will Culloms appropriation priation bill measure have upon i 1 A I this measure i passed in the House of course it wilUtuko precedence preceence of the Callous bill and I think I will be favorably considered by the Senate and supercede it QDo you anticipate that in passing the bIn it will b materially changed 7 AI thnfc not I think it will go through just as it was introduced QU the tcsion takes place will it have authority t pass anything but appropriation bills 7 A Nothing It will be a shor sea siou and confined to a few days aud I it the Territory will bear the expense of I i itMr Mr West stated that he lelt Mr Caine in good health but that be was being worked up to the very ears He himself had had a personal interview with Cleveland but nothing transpired which is thought would be of I woud b any interest to communicate |