Show THREATS HEATS 10 TO BUILD COMPETING PLANTS Barlow Ferguson of Hailey Gives His Version of Havel Havemeyer Havemeyer Have- Have l meyer Methods SPEAKS OF CONFERENCE Present Salt Lake Hearing in Sugar Trust Investigation May End Today ARLO an attorney of ot BARLOW Halle Halley Idaho gave direct testimony mon mony yesterday afternoon at the tho hearing hearIng hear hear- ing of the tle governments government's suit sult to dissolve the lie American Sugar Sug-ar Refining company to the effect that a representative of at H H. H 0 O. Ja and the lie American Sugar Refining company compan had hd successfully successfully success success- Cull fully attempted to force orce stockholders of or the Utah Sugar Sug-ar ugar company an into a a. controlling controlling- Interest therein through threats that what los hits been diplomatically call cally referred to throughout hout tho tim trial of or the case as the he ea eastern Interests Interests' would build competing factories alongside alongside along side those operating In the tho tam tain territory and If IC nece necessary 5 r ilo the price of f C beets to 10 a ton to get the business Ferguson said in reply to a question from Assistant United States Attorney K Knapp that It was Impracticable for tor private Interests to operate beet su sugar ar factories In Utah Ind Independently of ot either the tile American Sugar Refining Relining company or the Mormon church or ob objections objections objections ob- ob both The answer elicited vigorous orous from Major Richard W W Young for thu tho Idaho Utah company compan successor In n Interest to the Utah Sugar company compan and the Idaho Sugar company separate corporations and from Frank L. L Crawford Crawford Crawford Craw Craw- ford of ot New York counsel for tho the AmerIcan Hu Sugar ar Refining c company who made nude his first court room appearance here herc yesterday afternoon I Knapp for Cor the tue government u sought tu to o dra draw from tram the tho witness that therA was a community of interest t between tile the he refinery refiner arid and the thc Mormon church Continued on Page 7 i Column 3 THREATS TO BUILD COMPETING PLANTS Barlow Ferguson o of f Hailey Halley Gives Gives' His Version o of f Ha HameYer Havemeyer Haven Have Have- ve- ve n meyer eyer Methods Continued from Pago Page Ono One and that tho the two were in combination to control the sugar Industry In Utah and ana Idaho Ferguson in narrative form orm had detailed the Incidents leadIng leading lead lead- Ing up to the sale sale sale-of a n. controlling Interest in interest In- In terest In the Utah companies compA to the American Sugar Refining company compan saying saing Gives GI c c Statements Statement I was a director and lT member ember of or orthe the executive committee of ot tho the Utah Ull Sugar company In 2 1901 and during luring that time timo attended an In informal In- In formal meeting of ot Interested parties parties parties par par- ties at the Lion house At that time I was also an attorney forthe for tor tho the sugar company compan There were present President Lorenzo Snow Jo Joseph eph 1 P. P Smith and Hebor J. J Grant I think W W. S. S McCornick and H H. G G. G Whitney were also alRo present but do donot donot donot not think T. T R R. R Cutler was at this conference although he had told mo me that a Mr 1 Willett 1 representing l I Ithe the Havemeyer Ha interests was In Salt Lake and would like to have havo havea a meeting with the officials Whether he meant officials of ot the church or of ot the sugar company compan I Ido Ido Ido do not know Willett said he came as tho representative rep rep- of ot Mr Ha Havemeyer er of or Now New York that Mr r. Havemeyer had large cane sugar interests and ana would like to extend them to the beet sugar BUgar field lie He said Mr Havemeyer knew tho the people here hero and knew the they had haa the beet sugar Industry In hand Havemeyer he said would like c to take tako them In as partners with him they to furnish the stock and he to furnish the money He lie said Havemeyer had plenty of money which put him In Ina Ina ina a position to help the Utah people and the they could help him It If the directors did not want to do this said Mr Have Have- me meyer or Intended to get et Into the beet sugar field flold anWa anyway That he would build factories alongside of ours oun and if necessary pa pay 10 10 a ton for beets until he had control of ot the tho situation He said Havemeyer would prefer to bu buy rather than fight but that he had hall enough h money to spare so that ho he could lose mone money at first and not feel It This Thin ultimatum by the Havemeyer representative said the witness was later ater discussed In a formal meeting of the he board of directors of the tho Utah Sugar company before whom Willett appeared to repeat his proposition Would Not Fight Trust It was decided testified Ferguson that there was no use fighting the trust T. 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R Cutler was authorized to get the stockholders to sell one-half one th their heir lr stock at 18 per share It was later ater agreed that Cutler should go east and md negotiate the sale He did so and Ills his negotiations were subsequently ratified by the directors the Havemeyer Havemeyer Have Have- meyer Interests coming Into control Do you It Is practicable for tor private Interests to operate In Utah In Independently Independently independently In- In dependently of the Mormon church or orthe orthe ortho the tho American Su Sugar ar Refining company or both 7 asked Knapp I 1 do not the witness replied As AsI As I understood the situation then and as os asI I now understand the situation to have been then the American Sugar Sug-ar Refining RennIng Renn- Renn Ing ng com company pan intended to enter this field and monopolize that part of the tho trade In this intermountain country In other words to combine the Havemeyer Interest and that of the Utah Sugar company compan which was owned by the Mormon church Object to Monopolize Monopolise Crawford objected to the use of ot the word monopolize and to Its Ita presence In n the record He moved to strike the remainder of ot the answer objecting to dragging In the name of ot the tho church which ho he said Raid was not only hl highly hl Improper im improper improper Im- Im proper bu but t unconstitutional He asked Knapp to censure and criticise his witness Did the authorities of ot the church under their rules rulos exercise power to di direct direct direct di- di members member of or the church what business business business busi busi- ness they should go Into or In what place the they should carr carry on that business business business busi busi- ness 7 asked Knapp I cannot say what the tho rules were cre answered tho the witness I only know what they did The They did exorcise exercise that power Asked b by Major Youn to elaborate what he meant by tho the answer Fer Ferguson u- u son made mado no oth other r explanation than to tosa sa say that sometimes members of oC the church at the call of the authorities would move Into new countries and nd settle settle set set- tle Ue them up that sometimes this would be done dune on advice of ot the church and at nt other times would ouM be bo done voluntarily Influence on Sugar n Beets et Major Young on cross examination asked Ferguson if he thought the influence In Influence Influence In- In fluence of oC tho the Mormon church necessary necessary necessary sary to cause farmers of ot Utah to raise sugar beets at a n. profit Ferguson 5 said ld he did not know that It was necessary necessary necessary sary but that It helped some borne as In his opinion ninety per cent of OC Utah farmers Carmen were members of ot the church Ferguson i as as a willing willing- witness s for tor forthe forthe the government and left leCt tho the Impression Impression sion as he quit the stand that he lle had a alot alot alot lot more things s to sa say 1 If the tho attorney would only ask him about them George Georgo o C C. Parkinson a farmer and merchant of Preston Idaho and Soren Hanson of ot Hyrum wore were examined at atthe atthe atthe the morning session Parkinson's testimony testimony tell tes tes- tes dealt wholly with details of I steps ster s taken to establish sugar facto facto- rles at Nampa and Payette Idaho In 1905 06 He said that he and T. T R. R Cutler of 01 the Utah Sugar company were working together In the matter and that ho he reported to Cutler aa as his su RU- Later the Western Vestern Idaho Sugar company compan was waft formed to build a plant at Nampa Namtla Previous to the testimony of or Parkinson two letters were Introduced Intro Introduced by the government The first was from S S. B B. Thomas of ot tho the American Ameri Ameri- can Sugar Refining company to T T. R R. Cutler It being as follows Al AJaI Auis for Information I hope you OU will Itee keep us informed of an any proposed additional beet sugar factories In territory either those proposed b bv a competitor competitor com com- or any suggestion that has bo been n made that thal your our COmp company ny should build in some soma ney now locality It Is my opinion that the best beat policy polIcy policy pol pol- icy Is to devote our time and money to the Increased efficiency of ot our best bost plants The letter Is 18 under date of ot April 21 1908 The second nd let letter tor dated November Novem Novem- ber bor 4 1904 Va waa vaa from H lL O. O Havemeyer Ha r to Da David Id at Ogden and said In part I fear somebody will be looking out to build beet sugar factories and that Elgin EIght Bench will appear very vory attractive it did to me and I think likewise to you so I think that tho the matter IB is really worth worthy of ot your close attention to got get refusals or or If It necessary to to buy the most desirable parcels Soron Soren Hanson drew an issue laute between himself and B. B H. H of ot Blackfoot Idaho who testified In the tho hearing Monday morning Hanson denying that ho had ad contracted to 0 o erect a SU sugar ar fac- fac factory tory at Blackfoot as BI Biethan than Testified Hansons Hanson's explanation was that he had negotiated with Blackfoot business men and others for the tho erection of a factory factor somewhere in the vicinity but that thero there was never any understanding that It was to ba b built at Blackfoot Hanson said that at the tho time he be promoted d tho the Idaho enterprise he had decided he wanted to build a sugar ta factory tory as he had made de considerable profit prot trading in Utah Sugar company compans company's com com- pany pans pany's s stocks He Ho had veld about 5 1 worth of oC the tho stock stack at one time H Hr He said he talked to T. T R R. Cutler in hl the fall of oC 1902 about building a factory and promised him control only caring to k keep ep a quarter Interest for tor himself but that Cutler misunderstood and It was not until later they got together as ns a 0 consequence con af f 1 which the factory factor at I Idaho aho Falls was built bunt The Tho hearing will probably be concluded concluded con con- clu ed this morning |