Show DISCOURSE I 1 J E r J M V GRA GRANT ep sundi sunday lifter noot noor ilich IMPORTED bir DIr i Y lonc long while tl ti a sacrament is passing I 1 will occupy a short sime lime in bearing earing my testimony to what we heard in the morning I 1 am pleased wilh with the 7 testimony wio with the ilia predictions alid and with the re marbs marks that thai we had to me they are true I 1 nn na der derstine them we assemble here in large numbers and receive instructions I 1 consider this an advantage to community take the smaller settlements scat swat tere tera i throughout the territory you cannot discipline them or bring them into the same order nader nider the same rules that you can a larger community hence different settlements find it necessary to adopt such rules and arid regulations as aill will best beat suit their circumstances and answer the ends required I 1 have some sometimes times thought though perhaps experience may teach me otherwise that a community call can be ruled easer easier when compact aban they can when scattered if we had llad all tiie hie people of this tilis territory concentrated in lit this tilis city and could they tiley meet here every sabbath and have the privileges which 3 on enjoy I 1 presume that you would not hear thit diversity of actions and und opinions that you bow tow ilow tiow do they would be le under the tile same regulations and arid would aou d receive tile tiie same instructions as you are privileged eged with willi and arid be impre impressed s sed with the tiie same spirit that you receive when di discourses s are being delivered from front tills this stand true the written word is afterwards published i ia in the deseret news 1 and distributed F tu nil all the ilia municipalities arid and smaller settlements or this tilis territory but there Is an influence fluence lc and aej imbres I 1 siou lou iou which vou you you yon receive that those do liot not nho who are not lot listening to the discourses llen ilen when lien delivered in nim him house here nere there ia is a subs substance tance tanem communicated impressions are made for you have the mn m n you you can discern the intent of his hia heart the spirit the ideas the whole soul foul of the man are thrown open in lit his discourse and his appearance makes malies an all impression that the mitten word cannot convey it has been found difficult in various ages of t tie tle tle tio world to control the tle people u when llen lien they are I 1 scattered when they are in small smail groups in lit different parts of I 1 lie the kingdom or cation nation to which they belong in ill such cases the ilia subjects have been found liard hard to manage and especially in countries slin similar flar to the one that we inhabit the tire geographical features and position of this mountainous country render it peculiar ill in its developments in lit its resources and in its natural barbiers bar tiers if we inhabited a level country news might be conveyed perhaps jer ier haps with more ease arld and celerity than it can call now for there we could c have llave steamboats railroads railroad mail coaches prid end various other means of transit but here there are too many barriers but the indians take them buthe on the prairies s of enois Iljin ois and missouri Miss niss ouri outi what could they do 0 without wit lout loyt thede thedo formidable bulwarks bulwa they could conid be dispersed forthwith and could not tro trouble elble tible us if vre we lad lud a country like either of those states A few men in tiie ilia fastnesses Fast nesses of mountains have lave always been invincible so long as they remained united men accustomed to hardships and the peculiarities cf of the country in they have resided gov eminent by experience that even sm smil lil ill 11 bands of red men meu when nv lien llen encountered in their native converts coverts are the most difficult foe in the world and if ir ever one place was better adapted than another for indian depredations this is that place A very few I 1 indians can call seriously annoy and arid dr disturb quite a large or 9 a number of whites N hites although the latter may be ever so enterprising and well disciplined and arid so combined that they I 1 can bri barg g their entire forca into the field in one day and aud when they hare have committed their depredations and you go where there they were you cannot find them they are gone into their strong holds the mountains and arid ka kan ryors A few Indi initials ais can cost this territory thousand millions nis of dollars before they are used up this ti is must ba be evident to all oil clience the tiie policy that lias has been adopted at and d pur put pursued aed in lit this territory 1 errit ory to say nothing about or their forefathers to say eay noti lug ing jug about the book of mormon to say nothing not nol liing respecting our notions of their origin and so forth and arid so oil on oil on the principle of policy and sound philosophy I 1 maintain that we can feed every tribe around arou abou nd us chaap er than we can fight them suppose they kill our cattie cattle and horses and take the grain and arid forage which wa we need for ourselves and teams teanis and suppose they steal our fence poles and arid annoy us in our house houses what vhal of all this thia have we ye not come onto auto t their e r I 1 lands lof dof s where they have buffed their forefathers llave we not occupied their hunting grounds frightened away their d game ame and inhabited places sacred to them by the interment of their ancestors have llave not we east cast our sieves and nets in streams and caught heir their fish ilive Hure we not taken poss possession esslau essian of their streams kan kanyon kanson yona sona and nearly no irly every tract of land endeared to them by the claims clims of inheritance a and nd the strond strong fies lies of association and habit babit thus compelling them to move elsewhere arid and what can we expect that they will require soine returns you must expect to feed and clothe them to supply their wants or they will commit depredations upon those thosa who have taken their homes their la land nd and their the irwood woodi and used or scared away their living viz the te fish fowls and arid wild animals I 1 argue and had I 1 think upon good premi es and policy that it is best beat to treat them N wilh fill forbearance 1 huce to ba be kind to them by feeding arid and clothing cio cro thing them alid and to feet feel satisfied that this is the tire cheap cst cut way of fighting he the natives of these monn molini i t lus ius as I 1 believe that it would be fir first strate raade policy to maka maln farms for theland the mand if they cannot raise grin t raise it for them until they chii cau can how anany ip air wilt W take to conquer a afew few asaff cled inthis Ind His nis 7 you cannot this u gioi si lil oi the nature t f oar our mountain homes is such that thai their thein hostility would be expensive 1 troublesome and arid disastrous far beyond Yno rno moderate ate ca calculation k ula uia tiou though you might ba amleto aillo to overcome I 1 a few small email bands lle ile lie tile history of or the aborigines I 1 from the beginning proves t when a settled hostility exists in lit bosoms they will invariably unite against the ilia wiltes the smaller tribes jol joi joining ning tile the larger and all clanning in lit what I 1 they deem deeni a just and common cause this has been almost I 1 invariably uvil the case from the first settlements tle ments at J jamestown plymouth ald alid other oilier points until inow now you may possess the skill 1 arld and knowledge pertaining to the conduct of or war you may hae have experience bravery and arid valor and arid i you may have men and means in abundance for 1 waging war against a formidable foe but 3 ou on can 1 not nat cac calculate when allen that war will end en dior elor how many men you will require to fight and suad subdue ue I 1 the indians you may imagine yours youra yourselves tIves elves in lit every way competent but when you cannot meet I 1 your A fie a upon lle the lie open prairie or upon the pla plu plaice itis lilb I 1 you cannot tell what will be required ilos llos hostile tile tiie indians have to be hunted among he the u wll uil lows lowa 1 in lit the tiie sage brush among the rocks in lit every kair i yon you in lit every deu den 1 md nd cavern in our mountains and when you have routed them from one place of resort they wll will go to a shout and others still more unapproachable than ban han tile the first i I 1 make these remarks to allow show that did we live in a level country we could then get news from every city town village and hamlet in lit a few hours or with tile the telegraphic vi reslan resina few seconds so th t we could know how to proceed but in thes these rugged and extensive mountains will with their system of barren vid volleys leys it is ii altogether r erent these views and 1 with I it I 1 would rather cope in battle with thousands and tells tens of thousands of men upon he ilia j plains than undertake he to grapple with a few indians I 1 in these mountain mountains I 1 am fully aware that whatever I 1 might possess i or have nt at command would be useful but these are my x views lews and sentiments senti Fenti ments in relation to fight ing indians su in a mountainous coury couig ry and I 1 liow khow that I 1 am orn supported in my position by go good 0 d authority not only that of or tile the present day but 1 by historians who have bave i le ecord corded cl the events of ori other periods we have in a small degree tested these kiev views s since our settlement in these rf gions and arid the same experiment has been repeatedly tried by many in other times and places they have tried to conquer the natives in various localities since the tire settlement of the united states by the whites Ns hites and small smail bands have been essaili ra sailed Failed d in various nations and arid ages by the gett iett settlers lers of new countries but whenever the invaders inva ders dera have havi met a warlike and united people a people who chose to resort to mountain those tribes have been found the tile most difficult foe fos that the ilia civilized nations notions have had llad to deal with willi in this territory our settlements are yet small sma il and at some distance from each other oilier and with willi a little concentration the indians could use them I 1 up there is no doubt about it whatever I 1 wish now cow to say a few words upon policy I 1 hear ilear some say that lii uli L 11 men are governed by policy but policy is oten often corrupted iu in other words there is good and bad bed policy kings kin 8 presidents si governors congressmen and ma many alvy other magnates are all governed by policy but tut their policy is more or lebs lets dependent upon the state of society and if the people and rulers are bous the policy will be wicked nicked what is the llie poli poll cy if a charl change e takes place in the mass wass of society the rulers will measurably alter tiller their policy in proportion to the change charge and tle almighty has often scourged urged people for their vi wickedness icke iche duess and rebellion bel bei liou in fit order to bring them to repentance when tile the wicked rule tile tiie people mourn is an old proverb prove ib and arid such rulers bri brine cu curses s ll 11 instead of upon tiie tile peo people pie ahen A when ls ismael israel rael had bad good kings and the people were ere good what was the result good always good but when they arld and their kings were unrighteous when the policy adopted and carried out was evil and produced discord instead of harmony barni ony distrust was vies among them and arid the results were misery death confusion and destruction you may go from the ilia house of israel to the earliest eur cur liest darious that existed upon the earth and you will find this fact to hold good v z that ilia t good rulers generally mke muke good people but if you now look jook at the various nations of the earth those of you who are conversant with history you will at once perceive that the almighty has withdrawn bis spirit irom from them because of their wicked wickedness ness nesb this tilis lie has frequently cione done in lit das days gone by Is it nol lot obvious thit tila the almighty has withdrawn his h spirit from the nations rations because of their wickedness ness and abominations and left them to themselves suppose that the spirit of the lord is withdraw withdrawn with wilh drawn fr from great Brit britain aill alli NN what hat will be til ill tiie tire policy of that nation bad for the spirit will be eolice bid ad when t a spirit is taken away the tile minds of or tile til rulers are darkened aaili anent meets in the ilia daik dark and their doings are bil hil in the dark con distress consternation and confusion must prevail take the russians the french or any other oilier iia lia nation tinn tiOn and tile the result u will ili ill be the same if ir the good spirit is withdrawn of course the policy will be according to the light if the light becomes dark darkness ness nekk neu nes s bo how bow w great grout is that I 1 darkness I 1 make these few remarks concerning policy that you may c comprehend my views upon the file policy 1 cy y of nations as they now operate on every portion of the ilia dobe globe I 1 do not intend to dwell upon the points I 1 have named bul bat merely to throw them out and you may adopt your our own process of df reasoning upon them let us now come down to the of joseph smith it is well known that he lie had bad a profligate brother and arid there was but oile one broad ground of difference between the policy of joseph josfph and that I 1 of ills his pron prof prostate nate tate broth brolan tr I 1 will first speak of i the policy of joseph soseph and arid ask what whai ba t will it doit wille will emancipate mancil ate ali ell who carry 11 ouli call cu it will break the yoke oke from front every one mho who bo ii is bound bounds it will make all men happy peaceable and good save them on earth and prepare them for salvation and exal laJon in he ilia ebern eternal a I 1 Nv world it may way he be enquired required did not licit joseph love tore wo anieul nieul yes lie was as a great lover of women but ilis ills c auree and policy ulcy alcy would elevate them make thema them virtu virtuous oils and und happy u wllie while ilie lile that of ilis his profligate brother would make them thirn wretched arld and miserable would debauch and degrade them the one would eave save the tire world the tile other would damn damli it this tilis Is i the tile diff difference ference between tiler the policy of the tire latter day saints and that of the world our policy will ill lii save the tire indians restore them to peace and bri brini brinl ng them nigh in gh to god while I 1 lie the oth otie er policy w u ill fight them thern drive them aud kill them off from the earth while the policy of the hie latter day saints byli g men to happiness arld and events lally bally to enjoy eternal live tile the other policy leads I 1 men to misery and destruction I 1 briefly bri uri fly name these cardinal points in order to lead your minds I 1 to tt re upon others that are of imbor i j tance lance 1 I have p arnises f nough bough formus forin nh reflection and but lut I 1 wish you OH most cleat clear ly to and that the pol poi cy ft of our president br by brigham Brig Brif aham tham ham bam is from god the mole more of the spirit the better belter the ahe policy arid aid ai ard d the better carried out A leek vt of that spirit and policy will if lad iad ad men to hell bell while an abundance will give IN ihm m beaven heaven it you wh w h your pres dent to have good rolley rol cy you trust pray that lie he may have an abundance of the spirit the greatest difficulty that 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